How would you go about making an underground bunker? - 12160 Social Network2024-03-28T23:04:48Zhttps://12160.info/forum/topics/how-would-you-go-about-making?feed=yes&xn_auth=noEn-mass your patriot neighbor…tag:12160.info,2012-06-18:2649739:Comment:8876702012-06-18T16:39:34.183ZCentral Scrutinizerhttps://12160.info/profile/H0llyw00d
<p>En-mass your patriot neighbors, friends, family, prepare tactical, and storm troop one of the many existing D.U.M.B's around your area. ;)</p>
<p>You may already be underground by now from the age of this topic ;)</p>
<p>En-mass your patriot neighbors, friends, family, prepare tactical, and storm troop one of the many existing D.U.M.B's around your area. ;)</p>
<p>You may already be underground by now from the age of this topic ;)</p> Having a bunker is cool and p…tag:12160.info,2011-06-29:2649739:Comment:4704222011-06-29T22:40:29.198ZVincent L. Guariscohttps://12160.info/xn/detail/u_3aqbqa2y3qv9t
Having a bunker is cool and probably smart but ( I hate this part), you still have to breath air....sorry friend, the air is now radioactive. I'm sure the elites have expensive air filteration systems for their massive bunkers. Sadly, most of us can not afford this expensive equipment.
Having a bunker is cool and probably smart but ( I hate this part), you still have to breath air....sorry friend, the air is now radioactive. I'm sure the elites have expensive air filteration systems for their massive bunkers. Sadly, most of us can not afford this expensive equipment. It's not that hard to find ac…tag:12160.info,2011-05-13:2649739:Comment:3921962011-05-13T22:10:56.308ZSEAMANhttps://12160.info/profile/SEAMAN
<p>It's not that hard to find acouple of plans off the net, same goes for filtration systems that can be pumped manualy if eletrical fails. one of the main thing with filtration of outside air are the presure shut off vales.</p>
<p>I'm not to familiar about it but after the initial blast it deals with the presure issue off the blow by.</p>
<p>It's not that hard to find acouple of plans off the net, same goes for filtration systems that can be pumped manualy if eletrical fails. one of the main thing with filtration of outside air are the presure shut off vales.</p>
<p>I'm not to familiar about it but after the initial blast it deals with the presure issue off the blow by.</p> I have some experience with n…tag:12160.info,2010-12-25:2649739:Comment:2798262010-12-25T16:01:44.555ZNathan Keith Kanehttps://12160.info/profile/NathanKeithKane
I have some experience with nitrogen packing. All we did was line a 5 gal. bucket with a plastic bag, put the grain in, stick the end of a hose connected to a nitrogen cylinder in and gather the bag around it, crack the valve until the bag is full (lighter or match goes out when brought near the mouth of the bag), close the bag, seal the bucket, store.
I have some experience with nitrogen packing. All we did was line a 5 gal. bucket with a plastic bag, put the grain in, stick the end of a hose connected to a nitrogen cylinder in and gather the bag around it, crack the valve until the bag is full (lighter or match goes out when brought near the mouth of the bag), close the bag, seal the bucket, store. I certainly wouldn't get a b…tag:12160.info,2010-12-25:2649739:Comment:2798192010-12-25T15:22:48.072ZLeif Oldharthttps://12160.info/profile/LeifOldhart
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<p>I certainly wouldn't get a building permit, or you've defeated much of the purpose of having such a hideaway. If prisoners can tunnel out of prison under the watchful eyes of their guards, you ought to be able to expedite this project without alerting the civil authorities.</p>
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<p>Otherwise, as people have pointed out, there are different ways to build an underground or earth-bermed shelter, based upon location, materials, climate, and what's needed. However, here are…</p>
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<p>I certainly wouldn't get a building permit, or you've defeated much of the purpose of having such a hideaway. If prisoners can tunnel out of prison under the watchful eyes of their guards, you ought to be able to expedite this project without alerting the civil authorities.</p>
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<p>Otherwise, as people have pointed out, there are different ways to build an underground or earth-bermed shelter, based upon location, materials, climate, and what's needed. However, here are several important related issues that will not change much from person to person.</p>
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<p>WATER: can you install a well? Do you have access to a local spring? Otherwise, collected runoff from the regular house roof would be helpful. See online for free instruction.</p>
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<p>FOOD: Store sprouting seed, do-it-yourself-packed in nitrogen to prevent weevils. You can find instructions for the nitrogen set up online, using sealed food-grade plastic buckets and a pressurized cylinder. Grains and beans. The latter can also be planted, as can radish and other seeds. Lacto-fermented vegetables, in large quantity, are a good way to go; you can make them well in advance and cycle them through your normal food consumption. Shelf life at ground temp. is at least one year (my experience). In Rumania, farmers allegedly fill a 50 gal. food-grade barrel with whatever is in season. There's much free instruction online!</p>
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<p>WASTE DISPOSAL: Human feces plays a major problem in sanitation. Unless you are situated over an old mine-shaft, the HUMANURE system is hands down the best way to go. Especially if you must remain sheltered for some time. With a few venting adjustments for the bunker situation this would be the way to go to eliminate germs, mess and smell. There's no room here to explain it, but there's much free instruction onine. And it's basically free, so you can use the money saved for other things. Google "Humanure" for full details. Urine elimination is easily handled if you're situated on any kind of slope, via underground 4" pipe.</p>
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<p>TOXINS: Something else to consider: Petro chemicals, including kerosene and paraffin give off poison that won't be healthy in confined situations. You might want to use vegetable oil lamps, with proper ventilation. The oil can also be consumed if you don't need it and you should store gallons of Olive Oil anyhow, in glass jugs. MiddleEastern stores usually have these at decent prices ($20 gal±). The heat emitted will help heat your bunker. Proper venting is necessary where ever fuels are burned for heat and light.</p>
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<p>MEDICINE: Potent healing tinctures may be made at very low prices per gallon, using 100 proof vodka and locally or easily obtainable herbs Include at least Echinacea (angustifolia), Poke (Phytolacca americana), and Cayenne (use Habanero for max. benefit). Hawthorn would be a good bet if someone has heart issues. Shelf life if sealed in glass (wax over the caps) and kept cool and dark is many years. Garlic tincture should also be on your list and LOTS of fresh garlic, which you can cycle into your normal food consumption during the year. Did you know that in WWI the Brits used mashed raw garlic paste on moss dressings to treat severe wounds and prevent infection? Fresh garlic is one of the most potent antibiotics on earth, but it loses much of its potency when dried or de-skinned, so tincturing at least a gallon will be a 'must.' Info available online, free. </p>
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<p>ENTERTAINMENT: Frivolous as it may sound, entertainment and recreation are necessary, especially when you are under STRESS. If you've always wanted to play a musical instrument, why not assure that it will be available in your bunker, where you may have plenty of time on your hands? Jig saw puzzles, cards, and a few good board games should be high on your list of "necessities!"</p>
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<p>All of the above may also be applied to non-bunker survival situations.</p>
<p>I have hands-on experience with everything except the nitrogen packing of sprouting seed, which is pretty simple, as are the other processes. I hope this helps!</p>
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There are ways to cut…tag:12160.info,2010-12-25:2649739:Comment:2798152010-12-25T15:07:03.242ZNathan Keith Kanehttps://12160.info/profile/NathanKeithKane
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<p>There are ways to cut through most scrambling, but they are very technically involved, and as I believe that the "Government" has longitudinal wave data transmission available to them, it would not surprise me if they merely staged an emp event to blow all the transmitters. Your best bet for com is still courier, unless you can figure out how to build a handheld longitudinal wave tranciever. I haven't. Btw, it would take an astronomical amount of power to jam everything in the…</p>
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<p>There are ways to cut through most scrambling, but they are very technically involved, and as I believe that the "Government" has longitudinal wave data transmission available to them, it would not surprise me if they merely staged an emp event to blow all the transmitters. Your best bet for com is still courier, unless you can figure out how to build a handheld longitudinal wave tranciever. I haven't. Btw, it would take an astronomical amount of power to jam everything in the lower 48 at once.</p> As far as burying yourself in…tag:12160.info,2010-12-25:2649739:Comment:2798132010-12-25T14:55:17.372ZNathan Keith Kanehttps://12160.info/profile/NathanKeithKane
As far as burying yourself in the ground goes, it seems to me that it would be bad for morale in the long run, but if you are interested in how to dig a big hole safely, look up the digging techniques used to dig basements for houses. To summarize, plan for a ramp about 3-4 times longer than the hole is deep, or use a track hoe and go from one end to the other. Just bear in mind the method that you intend to use to get the container/structure down into the hole when you decide how to do it.…
As far as burying yourself in the ground goes, it seems to me that it would be bad for morale in the long run, but if you are interested in how to dig a big hole safely, look up the digging techniques used to dig basements for houses. To summarize, plan for a ramp about 3-4 times longer than the hole is deep, or use a track hoe and go from one end to the other. Just bear in mind the method that you intend to use to get the container/structure down into the hole when you decide how to do it. What I would consider the ideal setup for concealability is a metalic container buried under 18-36 inches of earth near a stream that you could wing dam for power, metalic cased well sunk inside the container with the casing welded to the container, and shielded wires running from the hydro unit to the container, shield grounded to the container and in the stream. Probably still be radar detectable, but it would look a lot smaller than it actually was. A round tank will give a lot smaller radar return than a square container. If you stay in one place for long enough, you will be found. If you stay on the move, you may be found, but you have a chance at doing the finding, and then dealing with the situation on your own terms. Either way, if you are set on a worst case, it might be good to be ready to die, because any way you go, it is a certainty sooner or later. Personally, I do not think that the situation is hopeless yet, so I am putting the bulk of my energy right now into salvaging it, and only a little bit into preparing for it's collapse. Steel culverts work nicely an…tag:12160.info,2010-12-25:2649739:Comment:2797302010-12-25T04:18:44.654ZSouthern Patriothttps://12160.info/profile/SouthernPatriot
Steel culverts work nicely and all you have to do is bury them. They can be used as tunnels or shelters if you seal the ends. There are a few sites devoted to this and even a company tat sells them ready made.
Steel culverts work nicely and all you have to do is bury them. They can be used as tunnels or shelters if you seal the ends. There are a few sites devoted to this and even a company tat sells them ready made. I completely agree with every…tag:12160.info,2010-10-11:2649739:Comment:2489822010-10-11T18:42:50.017ZLKhttps://12160.info/profile/LK
I completely agree with everything you say. I am having a very difficult time convincing my family that being out of town is necessary. I am sitting right in the middle of the city and I know this is not where a person wants to be when the time comes. I have decided on relocating to Texas for many different reasons. I want acreage with lots of trees for heating purposes. Definitely not in southern Texas due to the southern border problems, which will only get worse.<br />
I did want to ask you what…
I completely agree with everything you say. I am having a very difficult time convincing my family that being out of town is necessary. I am sitting right in the middle of the city and I know this is not where a person wants to be when the time comes. I have decided on relocating to Texas for many different reasons. I want acreage with lots of trees for heating purposes. Definitely not in southern Texas due to the southern border problems, which will only get worse.<br />
I did want to ask you what you meant by "ground penetrating radar"? I have not run across this information yet.<br />
I am going with the house in the country mostly because of funds; I cannot afford to hire folks to do all the work that is required to go underground; plumbing, electrical, etc. I didn't like the idea of the large metal storage containers until I did research and saw what can be done with them. The security it offers is unbelievable. Not the most attractive but at a time like this, that's on the bottom of my list. A concern I had regarding this, who would you hire to dig this huge hole? You couldn't hire a local as you don't want anyone to know it's there. How would you go about that? To many of you, this may come easy for you but let me tell you a little about myself and you will understand. I am a 61-year old female and just do not have knowledge in any of this type of adventure outside of buying a house out in the boonies, which I feel is what I will do. My 40-year old son will come with me and he can do much but operating a large piece of equipment, and knowing how to dig something the size to hold a storage unit is beyond his abilities. Can anyone shine a light on that for me? I appreciate your input. Look into connex boxes or the…tag:12160.info,2010-10-11:2649739:Comment:2489592010-10-11T16:09:46.622ZDandy Andy aka flmkrdanohttps://12160.info/profile/DanAnderson
Look into connex boxes or the large metal storage containers. They are reasonable. Make sure of ventilation and septic areas. Seal it well and consider a lead secured area for EMP. You can go forever as for designing ideas. Let the imagination roam.
Look into connex boxes or the large metal storage containers. They are reasonable. Make sure of ventilation and septic areas. Seal it well and consider a lead secured area for EMP. You can go forever as for designing ideas. Let the imagination roam.