Politics - 12160 Social Network2024-03-29T11:30:18Zhttps://12160.info/forum/topics/politics?commentId=2649739%3AComment%3A1971994&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThats right Chris, they Love…tag:12160.info,2019-11-04:2649739:Comment:19725112019-11-04T10:17:28.630Zcheeki keahttps://12160.info/profile/cheekikea
<p>Thats right Chris, they Love the State highway catch. They hang out on the overpasses watching, waiting, ready to pounce and sting you for the slightest false move. The icing on the cake for them is to go whole hog and inpound the offending car, which is later sold for their fiancal pleasure. </p>
<p>Thats right Chris, they Love the State highway catch. They hang out on the overpasses watching, waiting, ready to pounce and sting you for the slightest false move. The icing on the cake for them is to go whole hog and inpound the offending car, which is later sold for their fiancal pleasure. </p> Actually the robbers accessin…tag:12160.info,2019-11-04:2649739:Comment:19726072019-11-04T07:15:41.416ZChris of the family Mastershttps://12160.info/profile/ChrisofthefamilyMasters
<p>Actually the robbers accessing a property owned by the State. The ultimate protection is de-registration of your conveyance. Than, they cannot even approach.</p>
<p>Actually the robbers accessing a property owned by the State. The ultimate protection is de-registration of your conveyance. Than, they cannot even approach.</p> Civil forfeiture is a legal n…tag:12160.info,2019-11-04:2649739:Comment:19725012019-11-04T06:59:43.820ZChris of the family Mastershttps://12160.info/profile/ChrisofthefamilyMasters
<p>Civil forfeiture is a legal name for blatant stealing by armed highway robbers.</p>
<p>" I don't consent to any searchers"</p>
<p>Civil forfeiture is a legal name for blatant stealing by armed highway robbers.</p>
<p>" I don't consent to any searchers"</p> yeah that sucks :-(
tag:12160.info,2019-11-04:2649739:Comment:19725802019-11-04T02:14:09.201ZMAChttps://12160.info/profile/MAC
<p>yeah that sucks :-(</p>
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<p>yeah that sucks :-(</p>
<p></p> Trump Just Resurrected the Ug…tag:12160.info,2019-11-04:2649739:Comment:19724782019-11-04T01:31:29.598ZJames Robertshttps://12160.info/profile/JamesRoberts
<p><a href="https://www.thestreet.com/story/14237541/1/civil-forfeiture-trump-resurrects-an-ugly-practice-for-no-reason.html" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Trump Just Resurrected the Ugly Practice Known as Civil Forfeiture for No Reason</a></p>
<p>Civil asset forfeiture is the latest dangerous from the Trump administration. The new rule announced by the Justice Department won't just expand the practice. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">It's designed specifically to defeat protections…</span></p>
<p><a href="https://www.thestreet.com/story/14237541/1/civil-forfeiture-trump-resurrects-an-ugly-practice-for-no-reason.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Trump Just Resurrected the Ugly Practice Known as Civil Forfeiture for No Reason</a></p>
<p>Civil asset forfeiture is the latest dangerous from the Trump administration. The new rule announced by the Justice Department won't just expand the practice. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">It's designed specifically to defeat protections passed at the state level.</span> [I thought he was all about transferring power from the federal govt back to the states - JR]<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><br/></span></p>
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<p>It will almost certainly lead to abuse.</p>
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<p>As reported by the <em><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessions-greenlights-police-to-increase-seizures-of-cash-and-property-from-suspected-criminals/2017/07/19/3522a9ba-6c99-11e7-96ab-5f38140b38cc_story.html?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.f2bc335e785b" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Washington Post</a></em>: "The Justice Department announced a new federal policy Wednesday to help state and local police take cash and property from people suspected of a crime, even without a criminal charge, reversing an Obama administration rule prompted by past abuse by police."</p>
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<p>The practice is known as civil asset forfeiture. <a href="https://www.thestreet.com/story/13025967/1/is-civil-forfeiture-legalized-theft-are-police-profiting-from-it.html">Under this law a police officer can seize any property</a> he believes was involved in a crime without obtaining either a warrant or probable cause.</p>
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<p>Originally, the government <a href="http://apps.americanbar.org/buslaw/blt/content/2012/06/article-02-dery.shtml" target="_blank" rel="noopener">pushed</a> forfeiture in the 1970s and 80s to fight drugs and organized crime. Law enforcement wanted to prevent criminals from disappearing the large amounts of cash that fuels their business, and so police were empowered to seize any money they believed was involved in a crime. Over the years, however, the practice has grown to the point where <a href="https://www.thestreet.com/story/12931616/1/the-irs-seized-this-womans-life-savings-for-making-her-deposits-too-small.html">the government began seizing assets far beyond cash in a wide variety of situations</a>, including cars, homes and even businesses.</p>
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<p>Many local police departments have begun to rely on it as a revenue source, targeting out of town drivers in <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/08/12/taken" target="_blank" rel="noopener">what are known</a> as "cash-for-freedom" deals.</p> That is like asking is Trump…tag:12160.info,2019-11-03:2649739:Comment:19723472019-11-03T17:32:52.347ZMAChttps://12160.info/profile/MAC
<p>That is like asking is Trump stupid enough to fall for Democrat ploy and hang himself lol</p>
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<p>That is like asking is Trump stupid enough to fall for Democrat ploy and hang himself lol</p>
<p></p> Right Raz Putin and hear our…tag:12160.info,2019-11-03:2649739:Comment:19723102019-11-03T17:26:39.222ZMAChttps://12160.info/profile/MAC
<p>Right Raz Putin and hear our newly elected Dem gov is pushing the gay agenda and red flag laws, shes a very sick demented woman and should be confined to a mental institution.</p>
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<p>Right Raz Putin and hear our newly elected Dem gov is pushing the gay agenda and red flag laws, shes a very sick demented woman and should be confined to a mental institution.</p>
<p></p> Yes James asset forfeiture la…tag:12160.info,2019-11-03:2649739:Comment:19723462019-11-03T17:22:41.474ZMAChttps://12160.info/profile/MAC
<p>Yes James asset forfeiture laws are abused in many states by croaked authority.</p>
<p>I agree with the taking of property from convicted drug dealers, what they have acquired was with dirty money from selling drugs.</p>
<p>like anything dishonest people in power can abuse the use of the laws, I think those people should be punished more then a drug dealer, they are the lowest of the low, to use their position and the law for personal gain.</p>
<p>so what's Trump have to do with that…</p>
<p>Yes James asset forfeiture laws are abused in many states by croaked authority.</p>
<p>I agree with the taking of property from convicted drug dealers, what they have acquired was with dirty money from selling drugs.</p>
<p>like anything dishonest people in power can abuse the use of the laws, I think those people should be punished more then a drug dealer, they are the lowest of the low, to use their position and the law for personal gain.</p>
<p>so what's Trump have to do with that ?</p>
<p></p> Right James that is closer to…tag:12160.info,2019-11-03:2649739:Comment:19724312019-11-03T17:08:06.934ZMAChttps://12160.info/profile/MAC
<p>Right James that is closer to what he said. after that meeting he said something like guns are not the problem, people kill people not guns.</p>
<p>he decided mind altering drugs are part of the problem, opioids are the problem and other stuff yada yada</p>
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<p>Right James that is closer to what he said. after that meeting he said something like guns are not the problem, people kill people not guns.</p>
<p>he decided mind altering drugs are part of the problem, opioids are the problem and other stuff yada yada</p>
<p></p> Civil asset forfeiture is a h…tag:12160.info,2019-11-03:2649739:Comment:19724302019-11-03T15:44:49.734ZJames Robertshttps://12160.info/profile/JamesRoberts
<p>Civil asset forfeiture is a hundreds of years old legal concept, formerly referred to as a "deodand". Let's say a tree on your property, a branch fell off and onto someone and killed them. The tree would be charged with the crime, not the owner. The court might demand that the tree be cut down and sawed up into firewood and sold, and the profits going to the surviving relatives of the killed person.</p>
<p>Modern police have ran wild with the idea. The main thing is, was the property…</p>
<p>Civil asset forfeiture is a hundreds of years old legal concept, formerly referred to as a "deodand". Let's say a tree on your property, a branch fell off and onto someone and killed them. The tree would be charged with the crime, not the owner. The court might demand that the tree be cut down and sawed up into firewood and sold, and the profits going to the surviving relatives of the killed person.</p>
<p>Modern police have ran wild with the idea. The main thing is, was the property involved in the commission of a crime? A poor black woman in Mississippi called the police because a group of youths was selling drugs on her property. The police came - and served her papers for them seizing her home. It was used in the commission of a crime, see?</p>
<p>I think it was in Georgia, police set up a roadblock, and went from vehicle to vehicle, telling people "Get out of our car". All paper money has testable traces of cocaine, so, again in a southern state, cops went into a grocery store and seized all the money in the registers and the safe. After Katrina, people were frequently paid by insurance companies in cash, so cops seized that money from people on the way to buy plywood and other supplies to repair their homes.</p>
<p>You don't have to be charged with a crime. If they seize your property, they inflate the value, and you have to put up a large chunk of that while you try to prove you didn't commit a crime (very difficult and expensive to do, most give up).</p>
<p>I don't like being the bearer of this news about Trump. But it is all true. I wish he was what he said he was during the campaign.</p>