Comments - Scientific Proof Adam and Eve Really Existed? Yes! - 12160 Social Network2024-03-29T00:41:11Zhttps://12160.info/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=2649739%3ABlogPost%3A1934126&xn_auth=noRichard Lacy, you might recal…tag:12160.info,2019-08-05:2649739:Comment:19353192019-08-05T21:43:30.894ZDoc Vegahttps://12160.info/profile/DocVega700
<p>Richard Lacy, you might recall how anthropological science now hangs its hat on Lucy, supposedly the throwback ancestor to the first upright-walking race of proto-humans with larger brains. Now was that postulate which has been foisted upon us, really accurate? I wonder. When they say that Africa seems to be the continent where the human species originated from I also smell the arrogance of assumption. Anyway, yes science is much more political and less concerned with truth than most people…</p>
<p>Richard Lacy, you might recall how anthropological science now hangs its hat on Lucy, supposedly the throwback ancestor to the first upright-walking race of proto-humans with larger brains. Now was that postulate which has been foisted upon us, really accurate? I wonder. When they say that Africa seems to be the continent where the human species originated from I also smell the arrogance of assumption. Anyway, yes science is much more political and less concerned with truth than most people would think. Asz one scientist observed the evidence is never all in just as the Global Warming crowd announced because in the search for truth science most always be open to new developments! Thanks for the observations.</p> Actually I have - and within…tag:12160.info,2019-08-05:2649739:Comment:19349592019-08-05T14:30:43.986Zrichard J Lacyhttps://12160.info/profile/richardJLacy
<p>Actually I have - and within my family( some are long standing n the genetics field) so don't think this quasi Adam & Eve thing is new - it isn't. It's been discussed for quite sometime - quite simply we don't know much about the Universe, and how it came into being - religion and Science is a continuing struggling existential issue - and likely will never be resolved - those experts are much in the dark as next person is - except they have authority of position, with artificially…</p>
<p>Actually I have - and within my family( some are long standing n the genetics field) so don't think this quasi Adam & Eve thing is new - it isn't. It's been discussed for quite sometime - quite simply we don't know much about the Universe, and how it came into being - religion and Science is a continuing struggling existential issue - and likely will never be resolved - those experts are much in the dark as next person is - except they have authority of position, with artificially manufactured illumination - you go where you look, even if it's a dead end. It's all incomplete theory still - much as Darwin's theory is, even with a preponderance of evidence, that many believe is overwhelming on Darwin's side. Wolves do not jump off a cliff, into the sea and become seals in one leap - as he proposed, in his first iteration!</p>
<p>As you suggest with E.V., - Black Swan ideas are met with vitriol - the experts defend their intellectual fortresses - changes in perspectives, are traumatic - as they threaten position, and a life's work - let alone consensus. Useful theories, to a greater or lesser degree are fine, until a Black Swan ideas comes along - undermining them, and we have progress! The rest is conviction, based on insufficient data - a question, when is data sufficient to conclude fact from! Scientist postulating ideas are so often akin to priests preaching, protected by their privilege - why dare to question, and not simply accept - war shave derived from this?</p>
<p>As to the scientific process of thought - few actually practice it fully. Many Peer reviewed journals themselves have come under the auspice of scandal - publishing bogus dissertations of questionable content - so question everything, as there has been much twaddle proposed as fact - history is littered with false claims!</p>
<p>The sciences don't require belief, if they do, they aren't science! However I am not saying genetic research is phony, it isn't but when you shove a religious reference on science - which Adam and Eve - you are appeasing the religion, but which religion and which god and which cosmogony?! </p> Richard by the way, I do agre…tag:12160.info,2019-08-04:2649739:Comment:19344942019-08-04T19:22:56.953ZDoc Vegahttps://12160.info/profile/DocVega700
<p>Richard by the way, I do agree with you on our scientific establishment being a bunch of conformists! Yes, you're right! Look what they did to Emmanuel Velikovsky for correctly identifying the source of the dinosaur extinction and his theory and that humanity had a collective amnesia about the past because there had been several such upheavals that had destroyed civilization. </p>
<p>Richard by the way, I do agree with you on our scientific establishment being a bunch of conformists! Yes, you're right! Look what they did to Emmanuel Velikovsky for correctly identifying the source of the dinosaur extinction and his theory and that humanity had a collective amnesia about the past because there had been several such upheavals that had destroyed civilization. </p> Richard if you think that Ada…tag:12160.info,2019-08-04:2649739:Comment:19345812019-08-04T19:15:04.443ZDoc Vegahttps://12160.info/profile/DocVega700
<p>Richard if you think that Adam and Eve are twaddle take it up with the geneticist responsible for the findings and you can hash it out with him.</p>
<p>Richard if you think that Adam and Eve are twaddle take it up with the geneticist responsible for the findings and you can hash it out with him.</p> We live in what as known as a…tag:12160.info,2019-08-04:2649739:Comment:19345772019-08-04T16:34:51.243Zrichard J Lacyhttps://12160.info/profile/richardJLacy
<p>We live in what as known as a 'Uniformitarian' perspective - a false one at that! Consider how fossils can be formed! Our world history has been strewn with catastrophes - interstellar electric storms - myths and legends talk of this. Cosmic radiation is just as likely to have altered dna than there being a 4.6 billion year gestation period of human evolution - scientists are constrained by Uniformitarianism - or they are marginalized - thus any Real science isn't allowed! All those…</p>
<p>We live in what as known as a 'Uniformitarian' perspective - a false one at that! Consider how fossils can be formed! Our world history has been strewn with catastrophes - interstellar electric storms - myths and legends talk of this. Cosmic radiation is just as likely to have altered dna than there being a 4.6 billion year gestation period of human evolution - scientists are constrained by Uniformitarianism - or they are marginalized - thus any Real science isn't allowed! All those discoveries of soft tissue found in dinosaurs bones - dates them at only 40k years ago! Science is part a socio-religious construct - it suits a few to lie to the many, because they are the freakin' experts and know, everyone else is an iggerant peon and knows nowt! Adam and Eve - twaddle!</p> I know you didn't write it a…tag:12160.info,2019-08-04:2649739:Comment:19343692019-08-04T06:08:30.065ZLess Pronehttps://12160.info/profile/LessProne
<p>I know you didn't write it and intend not to critisize you. I was just pointing out an obvious fault in the article. MVP. Something is missing.</p>
<p>I know you didn't write it and intend not to critisize you. I was just pointing out an obvious fault in the article. MVP. Something is missing.</p> Les, All I did was present th…tag:12160.info,2019-08-03:2649739:Comment:19341082019-08-03T21:27:55.557ZDoc Vegahttps://12160.info/profile/DocVega700
<p>Les, All I did was present the article as it was written and the fact that a non-believer geneticist, who is widely acclaimed, has peer review, has established findings in medical journals traced the very root of all human existence back to very beginning of the modern human species is how he came about his findings. Sorry, I wasn't at the laboratory nor am I a specialist in the field of genetic tracing, but he is. I am sure that a man of such stature would not take the impact of his…</p>
<p>Les, All I did was present the article as it was written and the fact that a non-believer geneticist, who is widely acclaimed, has peer review, has established findings in medical journals traced the very root of all human existence back to very beginning of the modern human species is how he came about his findings. Sorry, I wasn't at the laboratory nor am I a specialist in the field of genetic tracing, but he is. I am sure that a man of such stature would not take the impact of his findings lightly nor would he want to delegitimize his reputation either. So, I can't say how he could have any other agenda but to use his findings as a manner of proving his theory. I'm just the messenger.</p> The science presented in your…tag:12160.info,2019-08-03:2649739:Comment:19342632019-08-03T17:00:33.065ZLess Pronehttps://12160.info/profile/LessProne
<p>The science presented in your article goes against a common knowledge of harmfull effects of interbreeding. A human population based on only one man and woman is simply not possible. According to the research described in my link a sustainable MVP is around five to seven thousand, depending on the species. Either that or the human stock based on Adam and Eve got additional DNA injected separately.</p>
<p>The science presented in your article goes against a common knowledge of harmfull effects of interbreeding. A human population based on only one man and woman is simply not possible. According to the research described in my link a sustainable MVP is around five to seven thousand, depending on the species. Either that or the human stock based on Adam and Eve got additional DNA injected separately.</p> I'm am ot talking about belie…tag:12160.info,2019-08-03:2649739:Comment:19339142019-08-03T14:06:28.507ZDoc Vegahttps://12160.info/profile/DocVega700
<p>I'm am ot talking about beliefs here. I am talking about the results of a scientific study by a previous non-believer. I'm already much aware of the history of western culture the control of fiat currency and false taxation! I've written tons of articles about it. However, one of the big points that liberals, leftists, socialists have hung their hat on is the assumption that there is no basis in fact to substantiate the existence of God! So, in doing this they feel no responsibility in…</p>
<p>I'm am ot talking about beliefs here. I am talking about the results of a scientific study by a previous non-believer. I'm already much aware of the history of western culture the control of fiat currency and false taxation! I've written tons of articles about it. However, one of the big points that liberals, leftists, socialists have hung their hat on is the assumption that there is no basis in fact to substantiate the existence of God! So, in doing this they feel no responsibility in behaving ina moral or ethical manner and truth becomes negotiable, there are no absolutes. and therefore any kind of behavior can be rationalized! Even science can be denied or converted into pseudosciences such as global warming and population control and all the other megalomaniac schemes that go with the control of the elites! </p> We all have our beliefs, soci…tag:12160.info,2019-08-03:2649739:Comment:19338962019-08-03T05:20:50.759ZLess Pronehttps://12160.info/profile/LessProne
<p>We all have our beliefs, socialism among one of the most preferred tool for the usury cabal. The Christian faith has been an integral building block of the European and North American high cultures. When the European nations were not driven into wars they thrived and produced scientific and cultural abundance. Living standard rose and people started to prosper. However, our so called civilisation was not only built on the Christian faith but was kept afloat by the usury cabal until every…</p>
<p>We all have our beliefs, socialism among one of the most preferred tool for the usury cabal. The Christian faith has been an integral building block of the European and North American high cultures. When the European nations were not driven into wars they thrived and produced scientific and cultural abundance. Living standard rose and people started to prosper. However, our so called civilisation was not only built on the Christian faith but was kept afloat by the usury cabal until every successive harvest season was at hand.</p>
<p>There was and is a continuous blood sucking in between the harvests too, in a form of inflation and taxation, to keep the parasite class groving. But the main harvesting and population control is done by wars, the most profitable business for the cabal. This is the society and civilisation where we were born into. This is what we face every day whether or not understanding the dynamics of the enslaving techniques; money/debt illusion, corruption, abuse, social engineering and blood sacrifice.</p>
<p>We all have our faiths. There are many religions. All religions have their foundations in the past cultures, myths and superstitious beliefs. To claim that one of all the world religions is the one and only truth requires a lot of ignorance or blind faith in what has been fed to us. We can believe in God, I do in my own way, but that is only a belief. The beliefs are not facts but results of persuation or of a thorough examination and analysis of the world at best.</p>
<p>Then again there is a <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0006320702003464" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Minimum Viable Population</a> that is a lot more than two.</p>
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