Too Much Alex Jones on 12160 ?

A MESSAGE TO THE SITE ADMINS - MEMBER NAME WITH HELD

Rather than make a public statement, this message is just for you, James, from me. Forgive me for my blunt directness, but this is how I think about this issue.

Alex Jones has his own shows, channel, and staff, and his following is quite large. If I want AJ's interpretation (or more likely his handlers' instructed interpretation), a lot of which is fear porn in my opinion, I will read/watch/listen to his articles at his site(s).

If one sticks to the very base bare facts, oftentimes AJ presents material that other sites don't. The problem is the manner in which he presents the information, continually editorializing and sometimes lacking verification and leaving out significant facts, intending hopeless dismay at the very least, and fear-based insurrection at the very worst.

This style does not present both sides; it presents one side, as well as how his handlers want the public to think. Fortunately, people are continually waking, and this transparent "tell them how and what to think" style is less and less acceptable to critically thinking people.

Every time I see another AJ article on 12160's site, I see more pollution of the purer alternative view that was once present here. Yes, it is my choice to skip the AJ articles here and I do skip them, but I do wonder why anyone feels the need to repeat articles here that already have a well known setting.

Thanks for listening.

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Permalink Reply by Robert Carobene on August 21, 2012 at 4:46pm

Can I still post AJ stuff here or no more?

Permalink Reply by Nathan on August 21, 2012 at 4:50pm

Yes you can, Robert.

Permalink Reply by Exposure on August 21, 2012 at 4:46pm

Even if this is the case, - and I'm far from an AJ fan, it's his voice that does me, - I know trival, but that's me, - you don't have to read the article. To be honest I've not noticed an abundance of posts on him and when there are, it's normally done so by his handlers, opps, I mean his devotees on here.

Permalink Reply by truth on August 21, 2012 at 5:31pm

I doubt there are handlers here, fans perhaps :)

Permalink Reply by Robert Carobene on August 21, 2012 at 4:52pm

Ok thanks just making sure ya know ;)

Permalink Reply by Pete on August 21, 2012 at 5:54pm

I would have said if you disagree with Alex Jones or the articles that are cherry picked and posted here then why not offer up an opposing opinion and offer up a lively debate.

But seeing how your angle is that Alex Jones has handlers you are already dismissing information that could be vital to truth seekers. You don't like the messenger, fine, don't dismiss the message.

My opinion might be biased, I'm an avid listener and a Prison Planet forum member but that also puts me in the position to let members here know that 9 times out of 10 Alex is right, despite how he delivers his message.

PS let me also say that the times we live in are scary enough, Alex Jones can't possibly make them any scarier with inflection. LOL

Permalink Reply by Cryptocurrency on August 22, 2012 at 1:32am

Well said my man. Can I like, buy you a drink or something?

Permalink Reply by apeman2502 on August 21, 2012 at 6:47pm

I noticed this problem. Alex Jones on occasion goes off and off and off and... I e-mailed Infowars and reminded infowars of the innumerable vital lessons 'infowars with Alex Jones' introduces to his wide spectrum audience. Jordan Maxwell, satanic cults emanating from Buckingham palace, international central banking, NWO attacks on us all, etc. If you are not aware that Alex Jones is spot on about what information pablum-puking America needs to know to avoid the worst aspects of the upcoming climax to the Rothschild banker fraud, be it more inflation or total cessation of issued credit to the U.S., let go of mom's apron strings and help out. Mom does not have all the answers and when she told us that we were safe, perfect, handsome(or pretty), and smart, she was lying just to get us to shut up and go away. Alex fills us in on what we need to know as we walk down the dark alley of life. When Alex rants ( like the infamous 'Joker with facepaint' of 2011 rant), tell him to have a smile and a fruit juice and shut the fuck up. Then ask him who he is having on next and "What now?" 12160 gives us just enough Alex. More available @Infowars.com.

I think 12160 needs more 'WTC I and II restoration work by Turner Construction' details just a year or two before 9-11. This repair work was done on the exact same floors as hit by the two jets. Oh oh. Red Flag, again. Do not quickly hide and blame Alex Jones. The president of Turner during 9-11, Tom Luppert, received a new neighbor to his new home in Dallas, Texas a few years back. George W. Bush. It would be interesting to watch the drink in Luppert's hand as he was questioned about his relationship with Bush43 and Pete Peterson, the founder of BlackStone investments and backer of Larry Silverstein in his purchase of the WTCs.

I, for just one 12160 devotee, appreciate Alex Jones except for the 'Joker rant'.

Peterson, of course, is a member of the Skull and Bones Society, which has been engaging in covert warfare for the English Crown since 1713, when William of Orange was deposed as King of England and sent packing. Hint hint.

Permalink Reply by Cryptocurrency on August 22, 2012 at 1:34am

Haha bravo! I love this guy. Seriously, we should like put together a collection of your rants and publish them or something.

Permalink Reply by Nathan A. Bauer on August 21, 2012 at 7:19pm

Being the new/old kid on the block, please allow a modicum of decorum here. I do not think the original poster was casting aspersions towards anyone's heros. I believe he was making the point that Mr. Jones has 5 or more websites to disseminate his information.

I took a look at two 12160 search terms, "Alex Jones" and "Paul Joseph Watson" after he pointed out the high number of reposts from AJ's copious established sites. The number is staggering. It does make 12160 look like the Alex Jones Fan Club, especially on Search Engines, rather than the alternative news site and open discussion of the issues as 12160 once aspired to be.

Personally, I have no axe to grind with Mr. Jones, nor any that love his work, but the point the anon Poster makes is especially valid if 12160 is ever going to step out of the shadows, and into it's own niche.

Something to think about, and just my two cents.

Permalink Reply by Pete on August 21, 2012 at 7:52pm

Good point Nathan and I probably didn't notice the amount of articles posted from Alex Jones because I get enough from Infowars, so I look for other discussions here.

But if what you said is what the original poster meant then why didn't they just say that. Instead we got,

"This style does not present both sides; it presents one side, as well as how his handlers want the public to think. Fortunately, people are continually waking, and this transparent "tell them how and what to think" style is less and less acceptable to critically thinking people."

So not only did the OP cast aspersions but he also called anyone following Alex Jones less intelligent or some how less critically thinking.

But then again how should I know, since I follow Alex Jones. ;-)

Permalink Reply by Nathan A. Bauer on August 21, 2012 at 8:00pm

That sir is what I meant by a modicum of decorum. If this is not what the original poster meant and it was just an attack piece, then I apologize for putting my own viewpoint in place of theirs. So my two cents is still only worth two cents, sir. I know not of others motivations, only in my perception of them.