Alien and Sedition Acts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts

lack of free speech goes back futher in this sewer land

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Permalink Reply by whatawonderfulworldJethroClampet on May 21, 2009 at 3:07pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin_Bache_(journalist)

Bache died from yellow fever at the age of 29 before he could stand trial, and is buried in the Christ Church Burial Ground in Philadelphia. He is regarded by many Americans as an early champion of the Freedom of Speech and the First Amendment.

he sounds like great guy

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Permalink Reply by whatawonderfulworldJethroClampet on May 28, 2009 at 12:30pm

no one hasanything to say?

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Permalink Reply by Sweettina2 on May 28, 2009 at 11:42pm

WOW ! I am blown away. I never knew anything like this existed. I cant wait to get back to it.
Thanks bro
Peace,
T

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Permalink Reply by TheLasersShadow on May 29, 2009 at 12:06am

Did you read the actual wording of Alien Enemies Act the only one thats still law? As a US Citizen born here you can't be deported. Deporting someone means "Reversing -- Travel" a port is a place where someone enters the country. I'm from here and not of a Foreign Government or power thats at "war" with the USA....

Officers and Judges can twist any law however they want it doesn't make it lawful or constitutional.

I know what your referring to with free speech but its the same type of thing as if they said you had to stand on your head for 30min a day or go to jail for life. Its not lawful and is not law especially when in conflict with the constitution it instantly becomes a NON-law and NOT enforceable. If they try to enforce fiction you can shoot the hallucinating moron when they pull their gun. Thats been the law here in the USA forever, a cop breaking in your home at 3am without a warrant is a common criminal... so is a cop trying to arrest you for thinking and speaking a certain way.

You guys on this site need to realize that they WILL go as far as you let them.

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Permalink Reply by whatawonderfulworldJethroClampet on July 25, 2009 at 6:29am

pbs i think did a show on the Robert prager case around 1917

a mob killed him because he was a German and the jury let the killers go free

the american people have at times been assholes as the gov has

land of the assholes is all it is

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Permalink Reply by whatawonderfulworldJethroClampet on July 25, 2009 at 6:31am

laws on the books ? big deal

juries dont care or judges anymore

american dream is only a concept

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Prager#Lynching

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Permalink Reply by whatawonderfulworldJethroClampet on July 25, 2009 at 6:33am

Aftermath

The hanging was widely condoned. A local newspaper, the Edwardsville Intelligencer did call it "unlawful and unjustifiable" but argued that a traitor would be dealt with just as harshly in Germany. The mayor dispatched a telegram to a senator in which he argued that Prager's death was due to the failure of Congress to pass effective laws against disloyalty. This was apparently a commonly held point of view, repeated endlessly in the newspapers.[2]

[edit] Trial

On 25 April the county's grand jury indicted twelve men for murder and the trial got underway on 13 May. The judge refused to let the defense try to demonstrate Prager's disloyalty and the case for the defendants amounted to three claims: no one could say who did what, half the defendants claimed they had not even been there, and the rest claimed they had been bystanders, even Joe Riegel, who had confessed his part to newspaper reporters and a coroner's jury. In its concluding statement the defense argued that Prager's lynching was justified by "unwritten law." When the defense was finished, the judge declared a recess and after deliberating for 45 minutes (some accounts say 25), the jury found the defendants innocent. One juryman reportedly shouted, "Well, I guess nobody can say we aren't loyal now".[3]

[edit] Reaction

A week after the trial, an editorial in the newspaper the Collinsville Herald by editor and publisher J.O. Monroe said that "Outside a few persons who may still harbor Germanic inclinations, the whole city is glad that the eleven men indicted for the hanging of Robert P. Prager were acquitted." Monroe noted, "the community is well convinced that he was disloyal. ... The city does not miss him. The lesson of his death has had a wholesome effect on the Germanists of Collinsville and the rest of the nation."[4]

A New York Times editorial said "a fouler wrong could hardly be done America," which would be "denounced as a nation of odious hypocrites" as a result. However, the Washington Post declared that "In spite of excesses such as lynching, it is a healthful and wholesome awakening in the interior of the country".[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Prager