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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on April 20, 2014 at 5:26am

You are 100% correct but the solution won't work. It has to do with the way HTML and HREF is formatted, from a web spiders perspective.

View source on this page. The source code is hideous. The HREFs are jibberish. Thats all ning engine.

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on April 20, 2014 at 5:31am

This page for example, is linked off the homepage as

http://12160.info/xn/detail/2649739:Topic:1454393?xg_source=activity

which redirects to 

http://12160.info/forum/topics/seo-the-weakness-of-ning?xg_source=a...

Thats a no-no because its exploitable, from Google's perspective. Google fought many a war over the years, with bots and spammers, to keep relatively decent search results. Why even do that redirect in the first place, Google asks?

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on April 20, 2014 at 5:37am

Ning also comes across as spammy because you have tons of sites that are using the exact same code format. Back to the spam wars.. people would clone their websites across 100,000s of different domains, cross-linking to each other, to build relevance and try to spam millions of keywords, only to redirect to an advertisement. I did it, it was ridiculously profitable, google blocked it, I stopped. Ning must be hiring noobs from diploma farms.

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on April 20, 2014 at 5:47am

I coded spammers for like 10 years but stopped in like 2004 for legit work. Around 2007 I wrote a spammer to crawl YouTube channels, extract their subscribers, send them a message with a revolution video, friend them, and subscribe them. I think that had a massive effect on the "Wake Up" campaign, cutting right through the censorship of MSM and opening up the social media revolution. Food for thought for any email spammers out there. Stop spamming porn and gambling shit for a day, spam some Revolution.

Another thing I've always done, is promote sites like this, where there is no real leadership and anyone can jump in to chime in. Also, in case something happened to me, all would not be lost. Certainly not spam Alex Jones shit or other "Patriot Celebrity" crap. This shit aint about fame and credit, its about our survival and freedom.

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Permalink Reply by Not mainstreamer on April 20, 2014 at 5:56am

Thats all ning engine.

I guess all interactive sites will work the same way - php generates the pages. Googlebot will evaluate the generated page (html code) and ask:

• what language is this?
• what is page about?

How the bots are contructed is a secret, but we can assume their "reading" abilities is a bit dyslectic. Pages are classified according to keywords I guess.

What not to do:

• mix languages .. so the bot will not know what language this is
• mix topics .. so the bot what not know what page is about

Ning creates a permanent URL from the headline (good). Words in URL are the first clues about content of page (what is stated in "keywords" is not that important for Google I have learned - Google re-evaluates pages independently).

(Of course no one puts much thought into that effect of headline, but it can be done by site manager when it comes to a main keyword like "New World Order")

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on April 20, 2014 at 5:57am

Well I don't mean your solution wont work at all, it probably would help a little bit, but I think theres a bigger problem that we cant really get at, and maybe guerrilla warfare style might be a little better.

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on April 20, 2014 at 6:06am

I think this is the biggest problem, as you said -

Only 1-2 valid/permanent 12160 hits here. The other hits 5-6 hits will soon be invalidated by Ning.  Googlebot is working and working and Ning deletes the findings (=destructive)

Thats gotta be a huge penalty once the page is relisted.

I would give this page an A+ from the perspective of keyword, content, and organization.

It gets an F for the redirects and nasty source code because if the bot trips up on determining the start/stop of a code block, it could skip processing the text block. It would still save that text block since google caches everything, but wouldnt rate it.

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on April 20, 2014 at 6:25am

Taking a keyword like "New World Order" would be absolutely huge and we might see 1 million hits a week off it, but would require a highly concentrated effort towards it and a 100% score from the googlebot perspective.

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on April 20, 2014 at 6:32am

Group Rankings

#8 https://www.google.com/search?q=Patriotic+Atheists ------ About 232,000 results
#10 https://www.google.com/search?q=MUSICWARS ------ About 8,810,000 results
#9 https://www.google.com/search?q=No%20Confidence%20Party  ------  About 135,000,000 results

Maybe think about groups with more of an SEO perspective. Such as a NEW WORLD ORDER group. And have enough people "in the know" to put content in there wisely, from an SEO perspective.

Seems like we are being consistently ranked in the bottom 10, which aint too shabby. We can branch that out some and try to claw up a few spots. The difference between top 5 and 5-10 is pretty big in terms of hits.

I dunno, food for thought.

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Permalink Reply by Not mainstreamer on April 20, 2014 at 6:44am

More food for thoughts

http://creators.ning.com/
SEO & NING???
I just added "Search Engine Visibility" in my hosting plan over at GoDaddy for some of my domains and I applied one of the credits to my ning network that I have. The scan results from GoDaddy show a lot of errors that need to be fixed, such as: keywords, titles, tages, etc... the list goes on and on.

http://www.ning.com/help/?p=9326
Ning is well optimized for SEO (search engine optimization), but you can go further to improve your search engine ranking. First, take a minute to fill out the basic keywords you want Google to associate your site with. You can do this from the Settings > Network Details section of your dashboard. Not sure how this works? We have an article to help you Choose the Right Keywords for SEO.

Second strategy for better SEO: Use tags whenever possible. You can tag individual blogs, forum discussions, photos, events — you’ll see the option to tag content in a lot of places. Include a few words that accurately describe the content on the page, and separate them with commas. The content on the page is more important than the tags you use, so don’t expect to get awesome results with not-so-awesome content. But, in general, tags can help your content get found.

Opt out of Google entirely
Maybe you want to completely Prevent Google From Indexing Your Site. If that’s the case, simply make your site private, and Google definitely won’t index any part of your site

Create or link to resources as a content strategy
You may already have a bunch of great content you’re itching to add to your site. Research articles, white papers, studies, stories, and slideshows are all great resources that can be introduced as pages, uploaded as attachments, or added using the File Manager. Incorporating previously published materials like this can improve your search engine rankings and ...

One of the cleanest and most straightforward examples we’ve seen using standalone pages to list resources is done by FabLab@School, a site that serves as a meeting place for students

Sure making links from old pages (<topic>) to new pages (same <topic>), and links from new pages (<topic>) to old pages (same <topic>) will help the search engine bots. It will also help the readers. Structured information is better.

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Permalink Reply by Not mainstreamer on April 20, 2014 at 7:04am

MONDAY, JANUARY 21, 2013

Website: 12160.info Keywords (most hits on SE list?):

• "the hour of our time"
• "total us bloggers"
• "bell logo"
• "912 movement"
• "13 bloodlines"
• "unexpected members of the new world order"
• "neither corp youtube"
• "brand names logos"
• "the freeman perspective"
• "cspan live"
• "becky shay interview"
• "bluebeam hacked files"
• "a true ott apf"
• "max igan"
• "american police force dyncorp"
• "dyncorp american police force"
• "bud dwyer"
• "13 illuminati bloodlines"
• "jason bermas podcast"
• "glen beck 912 project"

:)

Search engine rating for "new world order"

• #20 thecommonsenseshow.com (!)
• #62 dictionary.cambridge.org
• #90 housesforsources.com
• #87 forbes.com
• #100 openbible.info

12160.info > #100

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on April 20, 2014 at 2:44pm

http://www.keyrow.com/data/?s=12160.info;

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