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Permalink Reply by TheLasersShadow on December 31, 2012 at 1:55pm

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Permalink Reply by stormtrooper1991 on December 31, 2012 at 3:34pm

Find and Contanct your Representative in the US House by Zip Code: http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/   Contact Your Senators : http://www.senate.gov/

To Read and Comment on this Article at GunsAmerica: http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/we-stand-as-one-contact-congress-on...

There is an old adage, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."   This week the media is trying to convince us that support for Senator Feinstein's  anti-gun legislation is weak, but if we are not  PRO-ACTIVE, the legislation will pass as written.  You will wake up just in time for SHOT Show with new laws that make your AR-15 a Class 3 weapon. This means that if you want to keep your tactical rifles, you will have to register them, pay a $5-$200 tax, and notify the government if you intend to take them out of state.  You will also completely waive your 4th Amendment rights to reasonable search and seizure.  ATF will have the right to knock on your door and inspect the weapons anytime they want.  You will also see an end to standard capacity magazines.   This isn't a threat. It isn't political posturing.  Diane Feinstein and the anti-gun machine have already introduced the legislation, and it will be rammed through Congress and signed by the President if we do not Stand As One and act today.

Please contact your legislators immediately, and post the links above to your discussion boards.  Also please contact all of the gun companies you do business with and ask them to take action now and don't sit on their resources in reaching out to the gunowners of America.  All of them have mailing lists, and all of them are sitting on them pretending that they don't have any responsibility, while doing record business in the stuff that is going to be banned or regulated.  This 2nd Amendment crisis is not about KA-CHING.  We call out to Midway USA, Gunbroker,  Brownells, Sportsmen's Guide, Cabelas and all the firearms and accessory manufacturers. If you have a list, use it.  We must Stand As One if we are to defeat this threat to our freedom.  Aside from one NRA-ILA email notifying us about the legislation, even the NRA has been silent.  Facebook isn't enough.  Our testing has shown that the effectiveness of Facebook is very small. You MUST EMAIL YOUR LISTS THIS WEEK before the legislation gains public support.  We are about to enter a dark time in 2nd Amendment freedom and political wrangling from the NRA isn't going to cut it this far out from an election.  The legislators need to hear from us, that we will work to defeat them in their next election bid.

This is not an alarmist position.  The anti-gun machine was prepared for this opportunity, and they are very well organized. Senator Feinstein herself admitted that she has been working since last year to investigate all of the loopholes from the last "Assault Weapons Ban" and eliminate them.  That means that this time there will be no thumbhole stocks, no sawed off flashhiders, no California "bullet buttons."  It is almost as though the anti-gunners allowed the old ban to end in hopes of making a better one this time.  This legislation is extremely comprehensive and if it passes, every tactical rifle in America will instantly become a Class 3 weapon. No new guns will be produced at all, effectively shuttering every AR-15 manufacturer in the country. 

Don't be fooled by  the pollsters this time, for or against.  They key point in this legislation is that we are more than a year from the start of the next campaigns for the mid-term elections.  The anti-gun lobbyists, as you read this, are contacting the House and Senate members trying to convince them that American voters are not going to punish them for voting for new and sweeping gun control.  Few politicians actually stand for anything, so how we react is paramount to defeating this legislation.    You must notify your legislators that you are watching their vote and that you will work to defeat them in their next election bid if they vote for any new gun legislation that comes out of the Sandy Hook shootings.  Over 500 people have been killed in Chicago this year, the most gun restrictive city in the USA.  We will not sacrifice our 2nd Amendment rights because the media is up in arms about the slaughter of 20 white kids by a mentally disturbed individual who stole his mommy's guns.

Also don't think that the Supreme Court is going to help us on this one.  The legislation clearly identifies the approach to grandfathered weapons as a tax, and the Supreme Court has recently dealt with this issue on Obamacare, and refused to strike it down.  Our swing vote, the George W. Bush appointed Justice Stevens, has already demonstrated that he will not strike down major legislation from the bench if he can find a way to avoid it, and this tax approach to our guns won't even make the Supreme Court.  You may think that the original 2nd Amendment guaranteed us the right to the same guns at the government (muskets at the time), but there is plenty of Federal case law from the 1986 machinegun ban that has laid the groundwork for this Feinstein bill. It will pass, and it will stand.

If we Stand As One this week, the legislation will be stopped.  Please contact your reps in the House and your Senators today.   Mobilize your friends and family.  Email everyone in your contact list.  And most importantly post the direct links above (not to GunsAmerica) to every single  discussion board, blog or forum to which you frequent. 

As we have tried to explain already, GunsAmerica is all alone out here in this fight.  Please encourage the gun websites you do business with to join our Stand As One campaign and email their mailing lists to fight this game changing legislation.  We are all NRA Life and Endowment members here at GunsAmerica, yet nothing has come from NRA.  Our competitors Gunbroker have sent nothing, apparently content with the spike in business.  Midway USA has a huge list, yet nothing has come from them.  Brownells is in the news for selling 3 1/2 years of magazines in one day, yet nothing has come from their email list.  And worst of all, Cheaper Than Dirt actually announced that they would stop selling guns online, supporting the public opinion against our guns.    Sportsman's Guide even had the nerve to send a happy go lucky "After Christmas" sale email on AR-15 accessories. Don't boycott these companies. Contact these companies!  We have to stand together or we are going to lose.   Now is not the time to argue and sit on our resources of huge email lists to America's gun enthusiasts. We Stand As One!

Some of you got upset at us calling Alex Jones a turd in the punchbowl of 2nd Amendment freedom, but it is the truth.   The conspiracy theory websites do not stand with us on this one, though they claim that they do.  A lot of young people are caught up in a conspiracy theory mindset  that is preventing them from seeing the forest through the trees.  2nd Amendment rights were never about hunting, and there has always been an out in the open "conspiracy" against them.  if you espouse big government control and oversight of all Americans, you obviously don't want free thinkers to be armed.  It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to figure out that Diane Feinstein wants to watch and control all Americans, and disarming us is an important step for her and her ilk.  Alex Jones and his gang may seem well intentioned, but what they really want is internet traffic. They want to sell you the movies and the water purifiers and the survival food and the male enhancement pills, PERIOD.   Guns are just the latest thing on the conspiracy theory bandwagon because it "gets the buzz going."   They may be gun loving Americans at heart, but what is driving them today is the almighty but ever weakening $$$ dollar.

Diane Feinstein doesn't care how much survival food you have in your bunker .  But what she does have is the actual power to halt the production of an entire class of firearms and magazines, and she plans to do that, this week.   Get out of your armchair and get into action.  

This quote from a recent article in the Russian newspaper Pravda urging us to not giv... says a great deal:

Do not be fooled by a belief that progressives, leftists hate guns. Oh, no, they do not. What they hate is guns in the hands of those who are not marching in lock step of their ideology. They hate guns in the hands of those who think for themselves and do not obey without question. They hate guns in those whom they have slated for a barrel to the back of the ear.

We must Stand As One!

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Permalink Reply by KIDNEY on December 31, 2012 at 9:46pm

storm your concerns are valid. but there is a veil that has been pulled over your eyes and you must remove the veil. takes some time

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Permalink Reply by Bildo on December 31, 2012 at 7:44pm

I'm thinkin' we're experiencing Endgame acceleration.

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Permalink Reply by KIDNEY on December 31, 2012 at 8:11pm

Bildo how in the fuck did you get in such a jam? I know how to stop them dead in their tracks. In the last hour my vista went out. then xp will not log in to anything says website is bad. youtube and here so I am on a laptop with linex umbutu. I can tell you how to stop the pirates but I only have now this little fuckin keyboard

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Permalink Reply by KIDNEY on December 31, 2012 at 8:14pm

Bildo the pirates want your consent to access your bc estate so they can rob you. fuck that. I DO NOT CONSENT I DO NOT CONSENT I DO NOT CONSENT. Remember about the consent of the governed? If u r self governing why would you consent to their governership?

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Permalink Reply by Bildo on December 31, 2012 at 8:38pm

I've done an "Acceptance of the Deed" on my BC. I also have POA of the legal person. I'm going to direct the Public Trustee to do his fiduciary duty and discharge this matter, settle and close the accounting. I think I'll bring along an IRS Form 56 to assist in his appointment as Fiduciary. Even if they roll all over me I still keep on "not consenting" and "not standing under". They also don't have anyone to sign me into jail. That's the lawyers job. They keep trying to get me to get a lawyer. I keep telling them that's one thing I don't need.

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Permalink Reply by KIDNEY on December 31, 2012 at 8:16pm

You consented when you said you understand the nature and cause of the charges. fuck that

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Permalink Reply by Bildo on December 31, 2012 at 8:26pm

That's just it. I told them I did NOT understand the charges. After reserving my rights and not consenting.

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Permalink Reply by KIDNEY on December 31, 2012 at 8:41pm

the only thing the pirates want is access to your secret million dollar estate. Do not consent. you must know trust law. trust law is what is happening in the courtroom. read this. I cant find it on this computer. but dont sweat going to prison. the reason they have not dismissed the charges is because if they do then they have to pay the bill. give me a few minutes and I will try and find a paper that tells exactly what is happening in the courtroom

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Permalink Reply by Bildo on December 31, 2012 at 9:24pm

Kidney, that's ok. I have the trust law info for what happens in the courtroom and understand it. I've also seen Dean Clifford who describes the system fantastically. I'm not really relying on the UCC-1 in this lower court. I'll be doing the administrator, trustee, beneficiary, assignment of trustee, etc.  

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Permalink Reply by KIDNEY on December 31, 2012 at 8:57pm

Cultivating the secured party-debtor relationship IS FATAL. Havent there been enough casualties to date? Not only will the public reverse the roles, but debtor-creditor is comparatively useless compared to trustee-beneficiary. YOU HAVE PROBLEMS BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN PRESUMED TO BE THE TRUSTEE on a trust that was created by the deposit of YOUR securities due to THEIR failure to return equity. Correct this, and their control of your securities falls apart instantly.

Also, it is time to end the patriot mythology that a UCC-1 can in any way recognize a living man. The mere act of entering a name, converts it to a fiction. UCC1s are for fictions only.

Stating that a NY UCC will identify you as a sovereign is foolishness.

I appreciate the enthusiasm, but this group is not the place for this sort of antiquated advocacy. These are relics we don't wish to dredge up from the recycle bin. You've come a long way baby. Best not to go back to the dark ages. Bill

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