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Permalink Reply by Troy Billington on May 15, 2010 at 1:21pm

The idea of combining seasonal flu with H1N1 came about after people became aprehensive over the safety of the fast-tracked H1N1 shots. This way they could gaurantee that people would accept the H1N1 shot. They have also joked about announcing 'shortages' of the vaccine in order to rally people to line up for them in fear they'd "run out". At the end of the flu season however, we discover that there is an overstock of vaccine.

We only found this out because the GREEDY vaccine manufacturers complained bitterly about the loss of the promised sales by governments world-wide.

Permalink Reply by virginia (ginny) linn on May 15, 2010 at 1:43pm

I have an elderly relative who was discharged from the hospital two days ago, and who is now in a convalescence hospital for acute rehab. When I signed him in, I filled out paper work that stated NO vaccines of any kind. When I went to see him yesterday, the nurse said that they were getting ready to give him his H1N1 vaccine. I said absolutely not! They knew I was upset and the nursing manager assured me he would not get the shot, but didn't know why my orders had not been inputted into the computer. She also said she did not know why they were giving patients this vaccine when the flu season was over.

They are either trying to get rid of stockpiles or are trying to kill elderly patients or both.

Permalink Reply by Bob Brown on May 15, 2010 at 2:26pm

virginia (ginny) linn said:

I have an elderly relative who was discharged from the hospital two days ago, and who is now in a convalescence hospital for acute rehab. When I signed him in, I filled out paper work that stated NO vaccines of any kind. When I went to see him yesterday, the nurse said that they were getting ready to give him his H1N1 vaccine. I said absolutely not! They knew I was upset and the nursing manager assured me he would not get the shot, but didn't know why my orders had not been inputted into the computer. She also said she did not know why they were giving patients this vaccine when the flu season was over.

They are either trying to get rid of stockpiles or are trying to kill elderly patients or both.

Permalink Reply by Lawrence Edward Calcutt on May 15, 2010 at 3:17pm

@ all and
virginia and Bob Brown said it :: once..

May I repeat the most inportant part again.

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Bob Brown said:

virginia (ginny) linn said:

I have an elderly relative who was discharged from the hospital two days ago, and who is now in a convalescence hospital for acute rehab. When I signed him in, I filled out paper work that stated NO vaccines of any kind. When I went to see him yesterday, the nurse said that they were getting ready to give him his H1N1 vaccine. I said absolutely not! They knew I was upset and the nursing manager assured me he would not get the shot, but didn't know why my orders had not been inputted into the computer. She also said she did not know why they were giving patients this vaccine when the flu season was over.

They are either trying to get rid of stockpiles or are trying to kill elderly patients or both.

Now,, it is highly likely that there is no place on the form the computer uses to record that specific piece of Data, or if it is recorded into the computer, it fails to print out when requested. As a programmer of 35 years I can believe it. Some programmers are not all that bright.

I would sue the Hospital if that happened to me or someone I loved and cared about.

Larry From Canada

Permalink Reply by John on May 15, 2010 at 6:15pm

As you all know this flu virus attacks the youngsters the most. As a veteran I've noticed posters up everywhere in the VA hospitals making you aware that everyone should get the vaccine and just ask and you'll get one. They (The Government) must have so much of this it's coming out their ears. Also, why risk the age group that isn't at risk with risks it doesn't need to take? I guess that's always the question. WHY

Permalink Reply by Lawrence Edward Calcutt on May 15, 2010 at 7:39pm

@ all and Troy, Virginia, John, and Bob

Remember I said elsewere, that 1 out of every 30 babys born in America develops some form of Autism... Only in America? Why?

The reason is simple.

A new born's immune system is not mature enough to cope with a massive shot of from 5 to 8 different pathigens placed in the babies body with one of their super vaccine shots.
Even at 6 months it has a great deal of difficulty to cope with all the different dieases the supershot was susposed to combat.

Now they want to manufactre a super Flu Vaccine to give to humans.WTH... what will it do to kids, teens, adults and seniors, Kill them. God help us if they do.

Your comments will be appreciated.

Larry from Canada

Permalink Reply by Christopher on May 16, 2010 at 3:14pm

Pharmaceutical Companies Earned Over $3 Billion on H1N1 Vaccine.

The above headline comes from a May 10, 2010 story by EarthTimes. In this article, it was reported that makers of the H1N1 vaccines reported sales of $3.3 billion in 2009. Healthcare market research publisher Kalorama, issued a report, "H1N1 'Swine Flu' Vaccine Market Review" in which they noted that although the vaccine income did not reach the levels anticipated, that the bottom line of several of the companies was boosted by the swine flu vaccine.

In the face of all the reports showing that the H1N1 vaccine scare was dramatically overblown and may have been partially fabricated, the Kalorama report coldly stated that they, "believe the contracting, production and distribution of this vaccine will be a model for future pandemic vaccines."
In what seemed more business than healthcare concern, the report stated, "there was no clear model to follow for the H1N1 vaccine, as marketing it in the traditional sense based on consumer need for the vaccine was not required. Companies were innovative."
Bruce Carlson, publisher of Kalorama Information, noted the business aspect of the vaccine by stating, "It was a unique product and each (vaccine) company adopted a different strategy."

In an unrelated but ironic new story, Reuters news on May 4, 2010 reports that the "U.S. has 71 million unused flu vaccine doses." They note that these vaccines all have expiration dates and that some of these doses start expiring in June of this year. These vaccine doses have already been paid for and should not impact the vaccine companies bottom lines.

Association between the 2008–09 Seasonal Influenza Vaccine and Pandemic H1N1 Illness during Spring–Summer 2009: Four Observational Studies from Canada.

Background

In late spring 2009, concern was raised in Canada that prior vaccination with the 2008–09 trivalent inactivated influenza vaccine (TIV) was associated with increased risk of pandemic influenza A (H1N1) (pH1N1) illness. Several epidemiologic investigations were conducted through the summer to assess this putative association.

Read more: http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal....

Permalink Reply by elaurenzo on May 17, 2010 at 4:55am

The worm will pack up this world in the old kit bag and swallow it. The is nothing in Stohr.