I WISH global warming were true.
Even with all the global warming propaganda they come up with, I'm STILL freezing my ass off in South Texas ! !!
Where's my tequila?
:{ jmg
Greg, this man says, clearly, that warming IS occurring. Not that it's caused by man-made emissions but that it's perhaps caused partially by the construction of cities, but that the earth has warmed during the past 150 years.
It may be Greg, I don't follow this subject closely but I can watch a video and he states unequivocally that the earth has warmed over the past 150 years which has been the crux of my argument with many on this web site.
So to say that the earth warms and cools is accurate.
But to say that the earth is currently warming also appears accurate.
I have never said this warming is caused by man but I do maintain that we are warming and people seem to want to argue with that statement as though I'm crazy and I happen to be accessing the same information they are.
So while I'll agree that Cap-N-Trade is a fraud and that AGW is a fraud I will not agree that global warming is a fraud since it appears that it isn't at this point in time based on the information I've accessed, most of which has been provided by you over the past year or so.
And to death_to_the_NWO, what don't you understand about the man in the video below, posted by Greg, that cities may be the cause of warming? Is that too difficult for you to understand? The man states clearly that the earth has been warming for 150 years. We see this in the ice cap melt in the Arctic. I never said we are warming because of man-made emissions. Why are you so stubbornly supporting a failed perception and why can't you separate man-made warming from a natural cycle of warming by the sun and other weather impacting phenomenon?
No Greg, he alludes to the fact that the overall heat generated by the existence of cities contributes to global warming, not that the temperature is higher next to concrete or an AC unit. At least that's the way I interpret it. And correct me if I'm wrong but he also says we have been in a warming trend for 150 years all of which indicates to me that he believes the planet is warming, as I do. That doesn't mean it's related to man-made emissions.
Dorcas I watched it yesterday but reviewed it at 3:46 again now. First, I don't believe everything I see or read on the internet. That doesn't mean I don't believe the video but it becomes questionable when the man in it, Icke, claims that the elite are shape shifting alligators, or whatever he claims. That doesn't mean I don't buy some of his theories, he presents brilliant theories on the elite and I agree with some of them, the ones that I can prove using information derived from other sources but you can't expect me to believe the elite are shape shifting reptiles. Second, I investigate this subject very little and rely primarily on Greg for the little I know although I read a very little elsewhere.
My opinion, and this is only my opinion, is that the science is still undetermined as to what is really going on with the weather and I don't think anyone is certain. Time will tell. Based on the very little information I have at this time I believe the earth is in a warming stage. Nothing will change that opinion for the time being because I can't base an opinion on certified facts because there are none.
Jeff, I know very little about it, and don't really understand the scientific talk at all. I was just wondering what you though, and just incase you hadn't seen it. I though it was interesting that rather than adding thermometers they were removing them, is all. Personally tho my experience has been that the temperatures are cooling, it seems. Here, in my part of Canada although our winters do seem a little warmer they last forever and our summers are a lot cooler... or maybe that's just compared to my youthful memories of summer. I dunno.
Well, to be honest we had the coolest summer in memory and this is the coldest winter in memory so I have no idea either and truthfully, my issue is only with Cap-N-Trade and that's the fraud I see clearly. Whether we're warming or cooling I don't think anyone knows with total accuracy but what's more important is that I don't know.
Thanks Greg, really. I despise debating a subject where the facts are obtuse or incomplete and the issue of a warming or cooling earth and exactly what causes it still appears just that to me. Again, I don't spend a great deal of time on this subject.
However...
Carbon Tax, Cap-N-Trade, Carbon Credits, all of these things are a scam on humanity whether global warming is a reality or not and we can all here agree on that I'm certain. And that's where I prefer to put my money, where facts dictate accurate opinions.
Conservatives are seriously dangerous people, some of them.
Greg, I'm trying, really I am. I'm checking every link you provide and have been for about a year or close to it and what I can tell you is there's GREAT confusion over this question in the scientific community. For the time being I am convinced of only one thing, Cap-N-Trade and anything related to trading Carbon Credits is a colossal scam on humanity. In the meantime I'll continue to read as you post. You know me, I need to see a general consensus within the scientific community or generally accepted factual data. So, I have reserved judgment for now and my opinion is tabled. I don't know what's happening with the weather. I don't think I'm alone though.
I understand problem reaction solution but can't apply it to something without the evidence. To do so would be premature. I'm not saying Global Warming isn't a scam, I just posted an article titled Global Warming in Pictures (no text of course), or something like that, I'm just saying I can't comment on it anymore (except Cap-N-Trade as you know) until there's more consensus within the scientific community. I've read too much seemingly good data on both sides of the argument and there is good data on both sides, some on each side. Even the scientists aren't certain and that's the safest bet for me. If I viewed everything as a conspiracy before having evidence everything would be a conspiracy and there are a few things still that are real, a few anyway. There are enough conspiracies confirmed with solid evidence to keep me busy for now. I like facts that are conclusive. They're difficult to locate on most subjects. I table decisions if I can't find conclusive and undisputed evidence. Still, I read everything you post and will continue to do so.
Temperature records dating back more than 150 years are to be re-examined by the Met Office because public belief in global warming has plummeted.
The re-analysis, which was approved at a conference in Turkey this week, comes after the climate change email scandal which dealt a severe blow to the credibility of environmental science.
The Met Office says that the review is 'timely' and insists it does not expect to come to a different conclusion about the progress of climate change.
Now that we have reached the end of the meteorological winter (December-February,) Rutgers University Global Snow Lab numbers (1967-2010) show that the just completed decade (2001-2010) had the snowiest Northern Hemisphere winters on record. The just completed winter was also the second snowiest on record, exceeded only by 1978. Average winter snow extent during the past decade was greater than 45,500,000 km2, beating out the 1960s by about 70,000 km2, and beating out the 1990s by nearly 1,000,000 km2.
The NWO isn't looking too good today my friends. Let's keep it up. I've spent a great deal of time on Facebook this last week, almost all day every day and there are a great many people that I would characterize as awake and they're of all ages, from 20 to 80.
A reasoning technique that entails reaching a conclusion about a subject in which one has no expertise and subsequently finding or creating factoids to support the conclusion without using critical thinking skills or research to discern the obvious impossibility of the facts or the conclusion.
There are no governments in the western countries. There are only corporate interests posing as elected politicians to put a face on government. Government is non-existent and Fascism is the law of the day. Democracy NEVER existed. It's an illusion supported by the Constitution, a seriously flawed document written by the elite of that day to perpetuate elite control.
Still, the links are great and I've been a fan of Trillion. Great musical creativity, especially on the current global concerns of humanity.
James Cameron is such a stooge! I'm so sick of all this left/right BS. The cap-n-trade scam has nothing to do with left or right, it is about using fear once again to sell a lie, plain and simple! Arghhhh, I'm so disgusted by the global warming choirs grandiosity and arrogance. Drink some more green foolade why don't you Cameron!
.....oh yeah, and the profits will be huge for the owners of the carbon credit store! Money=power to control and that is what this whole global warming BS is about primarily!
Founder of Oregon Petition wins house primary race
Dr Robertson is an expert on energy and founder of the Oregon Institute of Science & Medicine. He is widely known for his petition signed by more than 31,000 American scientists exposing human-caused global warming as a fraud. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/19/founder-of-oregon-petition-wi...
"See what you and your SUV did now? Mass extinction. It’s only happened five times before in the planet’s history without man, so clearly this is all your fault."
"Because saving the planet is not what environmentalism is all about. Saving the planet is just the excuse. Controlling other people's lives and redistributing global wealth is the true goal of the Elite Scientific Dictators."
Thanks for the welcome. I am from the state Al Whore claims to be from, actually he was raised pretty much in DC. He is his dad made over. That is why he couldn't even carry the state in an election he claims to be from.
http://joannenova.com.au/2010/07/tyranny-how-to-destroy-a-business-...
Tyranny: How to destroy a business with environmental red tape
A sad story of an american couple who migrated to western australia to start a family business but red tape a managers suicide hasnt helped matters, please visit /support matthew and jenny thompson re their plight
Gore admits the obvious: US corn ethanol was not a good policy ... admitted that his “support for corn-based ethanol in the United States was “not a good policy”
As reported by the US blogs Real Science and Watts Up With That, in a post headed “GISS temperatures out of line with the rest of the world”, the GISS record has in recent months been diverging wildly from the others. While three have shown global temperatures dropping sharply, by as much as 0.3C, the GISS figures (based, despite the link to Nasa, on surface temperatures) have shot up by 0.2C.
In a second post (“Hansen’s 'Hottest Year Ever’ is primarily based on fabricated data”), Real Science demonstrates that the parts of the world which GISS shows to be heating up the most are so short of weather stations that only 25 per cent of the figures are based on actual temperature readings. The rest are simply conjectured by GISS.
Britain and Europe have been hit hard for the third straight record-breaking winter season. Labeled by experts as the coldest winter in 100 years and set to blow well into 2011, it is already raising some very interesting questions about the new ideological split we are witnessing throughout society in the much celebrated green debate.
No, it is not President Barack Obama who rescued General Motors from bankruptcy in order to require that it begin building obscenely expensive electric cars that will get you anywhere you want to go so long it’s not farther away than forty miles.
It is, of course, Al Gore and you can read more of his insane ravings in “Earth in the Balance”, published initially just prior to serving as the 45th Vice President of the United States during Bill Clinton’s two terms from 1993 to 2001. In 2000 he was the Democratic Party candidate for President, losing to George W. Bush after an election so close the Supreme Court had to make the final call.
Thank God his credibility is shrinking, hopefully his ego will shrink just as rapidly. That's what you get when you spit upon the very face of mother nature Al.....it's spits right back with avengeance. What a stooge!!!!
3 very important places to check out, 2 articles and a new site I heard about on the canadian radio yesterday. I beleive it is why they had propoganda news this morning on CBC saying 80% of canadians beleive in the lie. Must be because this new site went up.
David Evans is a scientist. He has also worked in the heart of the AGW machine. He consulted full-time for the Australian Greenhouse Office (now the Department of Climate Change) from 1999 to 2005, and part-time 2008 to 2010, modeling Australia’s carbon in plants, debris, mulch, soils, and forestry and agricultural products. He has six university degrees, including a PhD in Electrical Engineering from Stanford University. The other day he said:
"The debate about global warming has reached ridiculous proportions and is full of micro-thin half-truths and misunderstandings. I am a scientist who was on the carbon gravy train, understands the evidence, was once an alarmist, but am now a skeptic."
And with that he begins a demolition of the theories, premises and methods by which the AGW scare has been foisted on the public.
Eyjafjallajokull volcano, since its first spewed volcanic ash, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet - all of you. And now with Iceland's Grimsvotn volcano erupting on May 21, 2011, it has been a losing battle.
The "Australian Carbon Tax" is completely unnecessary. Most significantly there are huge contradictions between the global warming claims being made in the media, in support of the tax, and the hard science that is used to support the position. The problem for those advocating a human induced warming hypothesis is the undistorted long-term temperature record plus recent monitoring that shows much hotter conditions during the last two thousand years and a cooling during the last decade. The correlation between human carbon producing activity and climate change is not at all established.
Jose M. Gonzalez
Even with all the global warming propaganda they come up with, I'm STILL freezing my ass off in South Texas ! !!
Where's my tequila?
:{ jmg
Feb 14, 2010
Jeff
Feb 16, 2010
Jeff
So to say that the earth warms and cools is accurate.
But to say that the earth is currently warming also appears accurate.
I have never said this warming is caused by man but I do maintain that we are warming and people seem to want to argue with that statement as though I'm crazy and I happen to be accessing the same information they are.
So while I'll agree that Cap-N-Trade is a fraud and that AGW is a fraud I will not agree that global warming is a fraud since it appears that it isn't at this point in time based on the information I've accessed, most of which has been provided by you over the past year or so.
Feb 16, 2010
Jeff
Feb 16, 2010
Jeff
Feb 16, 2010
Dorcas
Feb 16, 2010
Jeff
My opinion, and this is only my opinion, is that the science is still undetermined as to what is really going on with the weather and I don't think anyone is certain. Time will tell. Based on the very little information I have at this time I believe the earth is in a warming stage. Nothing will change that opinion for the time being because I can't base an opinion on certified facts because there are none.
Feb 16, 2010
Dorcas
Feb 16, 2010
Jeff
Feb 16, 2010
Jeff
Feb 16, 2010
Jeff
However...
Carbon Tax, Cap-N-Trade, Carbon Credits, all of these things are a scam on humanity whether global warming is a reality or not and we can all here agree on that I'm certain. And that's where I prefer to put my money, where facts dictate accurate opinions.
Feb 17, 2010
Jeff
Feb 18, 2010
Jeff
Greg, I'm trying, really I am. I'm checking every link you provide and have been for about a year or close to it and what I can tell you is there's GREAT confusion over this question in the scientific community. For the time being I am convinced of only one thing, Cap-N-Trade and anything related to trading Carbon Credits is a colossal scam on humanity. In the meantime I'll continue to read as you post. You know me, I need to see a general consensus within the scientific community or generally accepted factual data. So, I have reserved judgment for now and my opinion is tabled. I don't know what's happening with the weather. I don't think I'm alone though.
Feb 23, 2010
Jeff
Feb 23, 2010
Jeff
Feb 23, 2010
truth
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Temperature records dating back more than 150 years are to be re-examined by the Met Office because public belief in global warming has plummeted.
The re-analysis, which was approved at a conference in Turkey this week, comes after the climate change email scandal which dealt a severe blow to the credibility of environmental science.
The Met Office says that the review is 'timely' and insists it does not expect to come to a different conclusion about the progress of climate change.
Feb 25, 2010
truth
Now that we have reached the end of the meteorological winter (December-February,) Rutgers University Global Snow Lab numbers (1967-2010) show that the just completed decade (2001-2010) had the snowiest Northern Hemisphere winters on record. The just completed winter was also the second snowiest on record, exceeded only by 1978. Average winter snow extent during the past decade was greater than 45,500,000 km2, beating out the 1960s by about 70,000 km2, and beating out the 1990s by nearly 1,000,000 km2.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/03/02/2001-2010-was-the-snowiest-de...
Mar 3, 2010
Jeff
Mar 4, 2010
Billy Jack
A reasoning technique that entails reaching a conclusion about a subject in which one has no expertise and subsequently finding or creating factoids to support the conclusion without using critical thinking skills or research to discern the obvious impossibility of the facts or the conclusion.
Mar 5, 2010
alistair mackinnon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&v=C2KknCl8mbw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3m9aCKDVjA
if you dont know the rest of his work you should check the rest of his videos...
Mar 6, 2010
truth
Mar 6, 2010
Jeff
Still, the links are great and I've been a fan of Trillion. Great musical creativity, especially on the current global concerns of humanity.
Mar 9, 2010
Tara
Mar 25, 2010
Tara
Mar 25, 2010
truth
Dr Robertson is an expert on energy and founder of the Oregon Institute of Science & Medicine. He is widely known for his petition signed by more than 31,000 American scientists exposing human-caused global warming as a fraud.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/19/founder-of-oregon-petition-wi...
May 25, 2010
fireguy
May 25, 2010
fireguy
The Daily Bayonet
Skewering the Clueless Since 2006
http://dailybayonet.com/
"See what you and your SUV did now? Mass extinction. It’s only happened five times before in the planet’s history without man, so clearly this is all your fault."
May 26, 2010
fireguy
No Shit?
May 26, 2010
fireguy
Jun 24, 2010
truth
Carbon Currency: A New Beginning for Technocracy?" on 12160.org: http://ning.it/cPoHLW
Jun 29, 2010
Anthony Kimbrough
Sep 19, 2010
peter b dunn
Tyranny: How to destroy a business with environmental red tape
A sad story of an american couple who migrated to western australia to start a family business but red tape a managers suicide hasnt helped matters, please visit /support matthew and jenny thompson re their plight
Sep 23, 2010
Anthony Kimbrough
Nov 15, 2010
truth
Nov 16, 2010
Anthony Kimbrough
Nov 16, 2010
truth
R.I.P.: Al Gore's Chicago Climate Exchange Has Died
Nov 24, 2010
truth
As reported by the US blogs Real Science and Watts Up With That, in a post headed “GISS temperatures out of line with the rest of the world”, the GISS record has in recent months been diverging wildly from the others. While three have shown global temperatures dropping sharply, by as much as 0.3C, the GISS figures (based, despite the link to Nasa, on surface temperatures) have shot up by 0.2C.
In a second post (“Hansen’s 'Hottest Year Ever’ is primarily based on fabricated data”), Real Science demonstrates that the parts of the world which GISS shows to be heating up the most are so short of weather stations that only 25 per cent of the figures are based on actual temperature readings. The rest are simply conjectured by GISS.
Dec 19, 2010
truth
Britain and Europe have been hit hard for the third straight record-breaking winter season. Labeled by experts as the coldest winter in 100 years and set to blow well into 2011, it is already raising some very interesting questions about the new ideological split we are witnessing throughout society in the much celebrated green debate.
Jan 24, 2011
truth
Feb 7, 2011
truth
Al Gore's Incredibly Shrinking Credibility
No, it is not President Barack Obama who rescued General Motors from bankruptcy in order to require that it begin building obscenely expensive electric cars that will get you anywhere you want to go so long it’s not farther away than forty miles.
It is, of course, Al Gore and you can read more of his insane ravings in “Earth in the Balance”, published initially just prior to serving as the 45th Vice President of the United States during Bill Clinton’s two terms from 1993 to 2001. In 2000 he was the Democratic Party candidate for President, losing to George W. Bush after an election so close the Supreme Court had to make the final call.
Feb 10, 2011
Tara
Feb 10, 2011
luggnutz
3 very important places to check out, 2 articles and a new site I heard about on the canadian radio yesterday. I beleive it is why they had propoganda news this morning on CBC saying 80% of canadians beleive in the lie. Must be because this new site went up.
http://www.climatechange101.ca/
I strongly urge you to visit and sign up if you can. FINALLY!!
Also, go read these to get a better picture of how this was done.
http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=2465231
Scientists using selective temperature data, skeptics say
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2010/01/...
Feb 23, 2011
truth
I TOLD YOU THE CARBONAZIS WERE GOING TO BE BACK AS SOON AS THE MEMO...
May 4, 2011
truth
Scientist Flips, Blows Global Warming to Bits
David Evans is a scientist. He has also worked in the heart of the AGW machine. He consulted full-time for the Australian Greenhouse Office (now the Department of Climate Change) from 1999 to 2005, and part-time 2008 to 2010, modeling Australia’s carbon in plants, debris, mulch, soils, and forestry and agricultural products. He has six university degrees, including a PhD in Electrical Engineering from Stanford University. The other day he said:
"The debate about global warming has reached ridiculous proportions and is full of micro-thin half-truths and misunderstandings. I am a scientist who was on the carbon gravy train, understands the evidence, was once an alarmist, but am now a skeptic."
And with that he begins a demolition of the theories, premises and methods by which the AGW scare has been foisted on the public.
May 17, 2011
peter b dunn
http://www.galileomovement.com.au/galileo_movement.php
for yalll info
May 19, 2011
peter b dunn
also...
carbon tax scamhttp://www.2gb.com/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&...
May 19, 2011
peter b dunn
http://www.2gb.com/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&...
May 25, 2011
Billy Jack
Eyjafjallajokull volcano, since its first spewed volcanic ash, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet - all of you. And now with Iceland's Grimsvotn volcano erupting on May 21, 2011, it has been a losing battle.
Billyjack
Jun 26, 2011
truth
Carbon Taxes and Climate Fraud (The Australian Carbon Tax Debate)
The "Australian Carbon Tax" is completely unnecessary. Most significantly there are huge contradictions between the global warming claims being made in the media, in support of the tax, and the hard science that is used to support the position. The problem for those advocating a human induced warming hypothesis is the undistorted long-term temperature record plus recent monitoring that shows much hotter conditions during the last two thousand years and a cooling during the last decade. The correlation between human carbon producing activity and climate change is not at all established.
Jul 11, 2011
truth
Jul 28, 2011