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TIME, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE'RE STUCK WITH. |
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>> Host: ROBERT HAS SAVED US. |
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HE MAILS THIS CLAUDE PEPPER OF FLORIDA WAS IN THE SENATE, THEN THE HOUSE. |
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>> Guest: HE'S RIGHT. |
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GOOD DEAL, BRO, THAT'S RIGHT. |
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I THINK THERE WERE OTHERS, BUT THAT'S FOR SURE. |
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>> Host: NICK IS CALLING FROM LOS ANGELES. |
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YOU'RE ON BookTV WITH AUTHOR MARK LEVIN. |
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>> Caller: THANK YOU, C-SPAN. |
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HELLO, MARK. YOU HELP ME DRIVE HOME EVERY DAY AND HELP ME KEEP THE RAGE ON YOUR SHOW AND NOT ON THE OTHER DRIVERS, SO I'VE GOT TO THANK YOU FOR MAKING ME A BETTER DRIVER. |
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BUT YOU DO CLAIM THAT JAMES MADISON REJECTED NULLIFICATION, BUT IN THE SAME DOCUMENT THAT YOU CITE, HE WAS ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT A SPECIFIC PROCESS OF NULLIFICATION THAT WAS ADVOCATED ONLY BY SOUTH CAROLINA. |
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AND THEN LATER JAMES MADISON SAID THAT, AND I QUOTE HERE: NULLIFICATION IS THE NATURAL RIGHT WHICH ALL ADMIT TO BE A REMEDY AGAINST INSUPPORTABLE OPPRESSION, UNQUOTE. |
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SO, UM, WITH THAT MY REAL QUESTION FOR YOU IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU TALK ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION OUTLINING A REPUBLIC NOT A DEMOCRACY, BUT YOU SHARE A UTOPIAN FOREIGN POLICY OUTLOOK WHICH IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. |
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ANYONE CAN LOOK UP YOUR STATEMENTS ON PRESIDENTIAL WAR POWERS AND PUT THEM UP AGAINST THOMAS E. |
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WOODS OR LOUIS FISHER WHICH C-SPAN HAS ALSO FISH FEATURED. |
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>> Host: NICK, ARE YOU A FAN OF MARK LEVIN? |
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[LAUGHTER] >> Caller: YEAH. |
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AND I'M ALSO A FAN OF GEORGE WASHINGTON, AS HE IS. |
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IF YOU QUOTE GEORGE WASHINGTON, HE SAID THE NATION WHICH INDULGES TOWARD ANOTHER AS AN HABITUAL HATRED OR AN THAT ESTABLISH WALL FONDNESS IS IN SOME WAYS A SLAVE -- >> Host: NICK, WHY ARE YOU A SUPPORTER OF SO-CALLED NULLIFICATION? |
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>> Guest: WELL, I'M A SUPPORTER OF NULLIFICATION BECAUSE I THINK IT RUNS TO THE HEART OF WHAT A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC IS ALL ABOUT. |
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AND I THINK YOU CAN'T HAVE A REPUBLIC AND AN EMPIRE TOO. |
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SO I THINK MARK LEVIN'S BLIND SPOTS ON FOREIGN POLICIES AND NULLIFICATION REALLY UNDERMINE WHAT, YOU KNOW, HE PURPORTS TO BE ABOUT. |
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AND I THINK -- >> Host: ALL RIGHT. |
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WE'LL GET AN ANSWER. |
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JUST, MARK -- OR, NICK, JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM YOU THOUGH. |
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WHAT KIND OF OF WORK DO YOU DO? |
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YOU SAY MARK LEVIN IS ON YOUR RAID SLOW ON THE WAY HOME. |
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WHAT KIND OF WORK DO YOU DO? |
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>> Caller: WELL, I'M STRUGGLING IN THIS OBAMA ECONOMY, SO I HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT PART-TIME JOBS. |
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I WORK AT A COUPLE CONVERT VENUES AND UCLA, ALSO AN INALTERNATIVE WITH A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. |
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SO, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WORLD. |
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I THINK IT AFFECTS MY GENERATION. |
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I'M 28 YEARS OLD, IT AFFECTS MY GENERATION VERY MUCH. |
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SO I PAY ATTENTION TO ALL THE VOICES AND RYE AND STAY INVOLVED BUT ALSO GOT TO PAY THE BILLS WITH SOME PART-TIME JOBS TOO. |
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>> Host: NICK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CALLING IN. |
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MARK LEVIN. |
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>> Guest: WELL, HERE WE GO AGAIN. |
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LET'S SEE. |
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PEOPLE HAVE TO READ THIS 1830 LETTER ON THEIR OWN. |
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THERE'S NOTHING, IT'S NOT A NARROW LETTER. |
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IT'S A VERY LONG LETTER. |
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OF HE'S ADDRESSING MORE THAN WHAT NICK HAS TO SAY. |
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HE ALSO IS ENGORSING ARTICLE V WHICH NICK DOESN'T ENDORSE. |
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HE DIDN'T SAY IT, BUT HE DOESN'T. |
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THEY CAN QUOTE PROFESSOR THIS OR PROFESSOR THAT ALL THEY WANT, THERE ARE A LOT OF KNUCKLEHEADS WHO ARE PROFESSORS TOO. |
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AND SO WHAT? |
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THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, AND THERE'S AN 1832 LETTER THAT MADISON ALSO WROTE, BUT THEY SAY IT'S SPECIFIC TO SOUTH CAROLINA. |
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THERE'S NOTHING I CAN SAY THAT'S GOING TO DISSUADE NICK OR OTHERS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T TELL YOU WHAT NONPROFIT GROUP HE WORKS FOR. |
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THERE'S A COUPLE GROUPS THAT KEEP PUSHING NULLIFICATION. |
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I'M SURPRISED YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CALL FOR SECESSION YET. |
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I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF DESTROYING THE REPUBLIC. |
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I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF ELIMINATING THE UNION. |
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I BELIEVE WE FOUGHT A CIVIL WAR OVER THIS. |
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BUT NULLIFICATION IS NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION. |
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NULLIFICATION WAS NOT BROUGHT UP AT THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONFESSION -- CONVENTION. |
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IT WAS DISCUSSED LEITER. |
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THERE ARE SOME -- LATER. |
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THERE ARE SOME DEFINITIVE LETTERS ABOUT IT. |
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BUT NUB OF THAT MATTERS -- NONE OF THAT MATTERS. |
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THERE IS NO HISTORICAL SUPPORT FROM THIS. |
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YOU KNOW, THESE GUYS WHO ARE ORIGINALISTS WHO CLAIM TO BE, WELL, EXCEPT IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THEY'RE SO ANGRY AT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY'RE WILLING TO TURN TO ANYTHING INCLUDING THIS WHAT I CALL NEO-CONFEDERATE AGENDA. |
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THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IT DOESN'T WORK, AND YOU CAN'T PURSUE IT, AND IT WON'T WORK. |
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THE NEOCONSERVATIVE AGENDA THAT I SPEAK TO IS THEY WANT TO SEE STATES SPLIT OFF FROM THE UNION. |
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AND, GOOD LORD, ARE WE GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN? |
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I MEAN, SORRY, FOLKS, DON'T COUNT ME THIS IN ON THAT. |
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I'M CONSIDERED PUSHING THE EDGE OF THE ENVELOPE WITH THE LIBERTY AMENDMENTS, BUT THESE GUYS ARE ALREADY ON THE OTHER EDGE OF THE ENVELOPE, AND THOSE ARE THE TALKING POINTS THAT ARE ARGUED, THAT ARE PUT OUT THERE TIME AND TIME AGAIN. |
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IGNORE THIS LETTER, MADISON DIDN'T MEAN THIS. |
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THE TENTH AMENDMENT MEANS NULLIFICATION. |
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AND YET THEY INTERPRET THIS STUFF LIKE THE LIBERALS INTERPRET THE CONSTITUTION. |
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>> Host: ALL RIGHT. |
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WELL, WE HAVE TAKEN TWO CALLS ON IT NOW AND HAD GOOD DISCUSSIONS, SO WE'LL END OUR DISCUSSION OF IT THERE TOO, AS WELL. |
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BUT HERE'S AN E-MAIL FROM WARREN WHO'S IN LOS ANGELES AS WELL. |
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KABC RADIO IN L. |
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A. AIRS THE MARK LEVIN SHOW WITH A THREE-HOUR TIME DELAY. |
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95% OF THE H. |
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A. AUDIENCE IS PREVENTED FROM CALLING IN AND PARTICIPATING IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS, WHAT CAN WE DO TO CONVINCE KABC TO CARRY YOUR PROGRAM LIVE? |
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>> Guest: WELL, WHAT CAN I SAY? |
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I GUESS I'M JUST GLAD I'M ON KABC. |
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YEAH, I TELL ALL THE AFFILIATES WE ONLY HAVE A RELATIVE SMALL PERCENTAGE THAT RUN THE SHOW TAPE-DELAYED, AND THEY DO IT, I THINK, OFTEN TO RUN A LOCAL HOST IN THE SLOT. |
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BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR AFFILIATES WE ARE LIVE. |
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WELL, YOU CAN TELL THEM. |
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BUT THERE ARE ALSO OTHER -- HERE'S THE THING. |
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SOME OF US IN TALK RADIO HAVE OTHER PLATFORMS YOU CAN LISTEN TO. |
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I'M NOT TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR WRITER AND KABC. |
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BUT I HAVE AN APP, MARK LEVIN APP, WHICH HAS HALF A MILLION PEOPLE WHO USE IT. |
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THE I HEART RADIO APP IS ANOTHER WAY TO LISTEN TO THE SHOW LIVE, YOU CAN BE YOUR OWN PROGRAM DIRECTOR. |
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OBVIOUSLY, WE DO A LIVE STREAM ON THE INTERNET, AND I'M ON SATELLITE, THE PATRIOT. |
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SO WE'RE ON TERRESTRIAL RADIO LIKE KABC, WE'RE ON SATELLITE, I'VE GOT TWO APPS WHERE YOU CAN PICK I US OP ON YOUR SMARTPHONE AND ON THE INTERNET. |
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SO IF YOU WANT TO HEAR US LIVE, YOU CAN LISTEN TO US LIVE. |
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>> Host: TONY IS CALLING FROM WOODBURN W NEW YORK. |
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GO AHEAD WITH YOUR QUESTION OR COMMENT FOR MARK LEVIN. |
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>> Caller: YEAH, |
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