German experts point finger at Ukrainian air-force jets. Proof MH17 Shot Down by Ukraine Fighter Jets?

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Breaking! Proof MH17 Shot Down by Ukraine Fighter Jets

AND MH17 = MH370

This is a Total False Flag Operation

ForbiddebKnowledgeTV
Alexandra Bruce
Based on data provided
by Peter Haisenko
August 2, 2014

The tragedy of Malaysian MH 17 continues to elude any clear explanation a full 15 days after this commercial airliner was shot down in the middle of an Active War Zone.

The flight recorders have been evaluated in England. The voice recorder evidence, in particular is of interest, when one also sees the fragmentary remains of the cockpit, which is ridden with hundreds of rounds of 30mm gauge bullet holes. Dozens upon dozens of entry and exit holes of those larger artillery are easily seen. 

German pilot, Peter Haisenko says that, "In sifting through the available images one thing stands out: All wreckage of the sections behind the cockpit are largely intact, except for the fact that only fragments of the aircraft remained. Only the cockpit part shows these peculiar marks of destruction. This leaves the examiner with an important clue. 

"This aircraft was not hit by a missile in the central portion. The destruction is limited to the cockpit area. 

"Now, you have to factor in that [the cockpit] is constructed of specially-reinforced material. This is on account of the nose of any aircraft having to withstand the impact of a large bird at high speeds...[one is reminded of] the crash of Pan Am over Lockerbie...a large segment of the cockpit, that due to this special architecture survived the crash in one piece. 

"In the case of flight MH17, it becomes abundantly clear that an explosion also took place inside the aircraft."

So what, exactly happened, here and how? Russia recently published radar recordings, that confirm at least one Ukrainian SU 25 in close proximity to MH17. This corresponds with the statement of the now missing Spanish [air traffic] controller ‘Carlos’ that has seen two Ukrainian fighter aircraft in the immediate vicinity of MH17. If we now consider the armament of a typical SU 25 we learn this: 

It is equipped with: 

- a double-barreled 30-mm gun, type GSh-302 / AO-17A
- a 250 round magazine of anti-tank incendiary shells and 
- splinter-explosive shells (dum-dum), arranged in alternating order. 


The cockpit of the MH17 was evidently been fired at from both sides. What would happen, when a series of anti-tank incendiary shells and splinter-explosive shells, designed to destroy modern tanks, hit the cockpit of a relatively commercial airliner from both sides? 

The anti-tank incendiary shells partially traversed the cockpit and exited on the other side in a slightly deformed shape. (NOTE FROM TRANSLATOR: Aviation forensic experts could possibly find them on the ground that is presumably controlled by the Kiev Ukrainian military). 

The artillery fired at the airliner was actually designed to penetrate the solid armor of a tank. Also, the splinter-explosive shells, due to their numerous impacts, would also have caused massive explosions inside the cockpit, since this is what they're designed to do. Given the rapid-firing sequence of the GSh-302 cannon, it would have also caused a rapid succession of explosions within the cockpit area, in a very short time. Remember, each of these rounds would have been sufficient to destroy a tank.

Commercial aircraft are essentially hermetically sealed pressurized chambers. The explosions would instantly increase the pressure inside the cabin to extreme levels and cause the cabin to explode. This is coherent with the wreckage found at the scene in Donetsk Oblast. 

The largely intact fragments of the rear sections broke in mid air at the weaker points of construction most likely under extreme internal air pressure. The images of the widely scattered field of debris and the brutally damaged segment of cockpit are the slam-dunk for this assessment.

Interestingly, a photo with a wing segment, showing traces of a grazing shot, aimed at the cockpit and the high-resolution photo of the fragment of the bullet-riddled cockpit, as well as the segment of grazed wing have disappeared from Google Images. One can find virtually no more pictures of the wreckage, except those of the well-known smoking ruins.

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The German pilot whose information is cited here believes that this was attempt on the life of Putin, although Putin has long denied that he flies over Active War Zones.

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BREAKING! PROOF MH17 SHOT DOWN BY UKRAINE FIGHTERS - MH17 FALSE FLAG

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NEW MH17 SENSATION: German experts point finger at Ukrainian air-force jets.

BY JOHN WARD

http://investmentwatchblog.com/new-mh17-sensation-german-experts-po...

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Surface to air missile attack ruled out as calibre of cockpit bullet holes puts Ukraine pilots in the frame for MH17 murders

This is what a German pilot-cum-air technology expert Peter Haisenko has just published on the subject of the MH17 disaster (my emphases):

‘The misfortune of the Malaysian MH 017 is known to all. The flight
recorder is in England and is being evaluated. What can come of this?
May be more than you want to accept….if you look at the image of
Cockpit-Fragments, this picture is certainly shocking.
Entry And Exit holes from bullets in the area of the Cockpit. This is not speculation, but analysis of clear facts: the cockpit
shows clear evidence of bullet holes. You can see the entry holes and
some exit points. The edges of the bullet holes are bent inwards,
these are much smaller and round in shape. A 30mm calibre. The exit
holes are less well formed and the edges are torn outwards.
Furthermore it is visible that the exit holes have torn the double
aluminium skin and bent them outwards. That is to say, splinters from
inside the cockpit blew through the outside of the cabin. The open
rivets have also been bent outwards….There is only one conclusion one can make, and that is that this: the
aircraft was not hit by a missile. The damage to the aircraft is
exclusively in the cockpit area….

Armour-Piercing Ammunition. Russia has published radar data that a
Ukranian SU 25 was close to MH 017. this corresponds with Spanish air
traffic control that two Ukranian fighter aircraft were in direct
contact with MH 017. Examine the weaponry of the SU 25: it is fitted
out with a 30mm cannon Type GSch-302 /AO-17A, with 250 rounds of
splintering exploding bullets on a belt – shrapnel rounds. The cockpit
of MH 017 was hit from TWO sides, as there are entry and exit holes on
the same side….’
Very compelling stuff, is it not?

Now read this (also German) article by defence expert Bernd Biederman, who offers equally sound reasons why the
shooting down could NOT have been from a surface to air missile:

‘ the shooting down of the Malaysian
Boeing on July 17 in the Eastern Ukraine “could not have been hit by a
surface to air defense missile” .

This is the assessment of retired Colonel Bernd Biedermann in an
article for the daily newspaper published in Berlin “new Germany”
(Thursday edition). Had splinters from a surface to air missile hit
the plane, it would have immediately caught fire, argues the NVA
anti-aircraft missile specialist. His reasoning is because of the
“enormous frictional heat that the splinters generate on penetrating
the fuselage. A single splinter contains the same kinetic energy as a
40-ton freight car hitting the buffers at 60 kilometers per hour.” In
the case of the Malaysian Boeing, scattered fires had broken out after
the impact with the ground, because hot debris from the aircraft had
come in contact with combustible materials.

Biedermann is familiar with Soviet and Russian air defense technology,
he led units in the duty officer system in East Germany and taught at
the Military Academy in the field of anti-aircraft missile troops.’

Articles are beginning to appear across the Web to the effect that Angela Merkel is disturbed by (and growing tired of) the incessant US propaganda being emitted in favour of its energy agenda….and so we must perhaps in turn view these articles in the light of her alleged new agenda concerning the creation of an alternative bloc to that of America. (More on this here in the near future).

But spin or not, these analyses make sense. The US State Dept has now shifted its position from ‘Russian atrocity’ to ‘tragic accident’. The above opinions suggest that neither are true: they suggest strongly that the Ukrainian air force took out MH17.

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