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Comment by Jeff on December 17, 2009 at 7:32pm

You and I think alike on many levels. At the least I agree, Saddam was a patriot. While he may have been vilified by the mainstream media I generally believe exactly the opposite of the party line. It's just safer. Therefore, Saddam was a patriot.

We were all deceived and many remain so.

Thanks, a lot!!

Peace

Comment by I811st on December 17, 2009 at 5:32pm

Sadam was a patriot, and died Proud ,an honorable induced "Hari-Kari". He had a chance to save himself , but he didn't want to show cowardess and Weakness to the people who were fighting and dying for him.In Japanese Society, Only a coward will Continue living a shameful existence with damaged honor. It is Traditionally practiced, If you feel You have stained your honor, to stick a knife in your gut and have your best friend Decapitate you with a Katana, the infamous samurai sword. "die by the sword" does have a nice ring to it , even to this day, don't it?

Comment by Jeff on December 17, 2009 at 2:56pm

Google Saddam Hussein. Go to Wikipedia. Scroll down to "Modernization Program" and read the few short paragraphs.

Yes, we have been deceived and unlike Yahya, I believe he was not a horrible man, at least not in the context of the historical record of global nation/state leaders. There were and are many, many, many far more horrible men.

George Bush is responsible for the death of 1.2 million Iraqi's.

So is Tony Blair.

Obama will be a close second before his term is up.

Saddam Hussein was a benevolent Dictator by comparison.

Comment by Jeff on December 17, 2009 at 2:52pm

I811st, very interesting that you posted this. I read it quite some time ago and looked for it recently to post it to this web site but couldn't find it. I'm glad you did...

Comment by I811st on December 17, 2009 at 11:46am

"...People of America, I address you not from weakness nor as a supplicant. I, my people, my brothers, comrades, and my nation – we address you on the basis of our moral and human responsibility. I tell you that officials whom you know, and first among them your President, lied to you and deceived you and tricked you using the media that portrayed Iraq to you as incorrigible, and Saddam Hussein as a hateful dictator, and that his people hate him and that his people are just waiting for their chance to get at him. Some of them just wallowed in lying falsehood to the point that they openly declared that the Iraqis would meet the invading armies with roses and celebration (...) Yes, esteemed ladies and gentlemen, your government deceived you, and you, or rather most of you, had no chance to inquire of themselves or of others in order to discover the truth because the Zionists in the lobby who advocated the war together with some of the centers of power were deceiving you and tricking you, hiding from your eyes the real truth, exchanging the facts for falsified and slanted information (...) People of America, the wars that your government promotes in the world – one of them being the war in Iraq – with input from certain centers of power – which you know better than we – are not in the interests of the American people. You know better than many how you paid in blood so that you might liberate yourselves from British colonialism and after that how the United States of America was unified and what rivers of blood were shed in order for that to come about. So, esteemed ladies and gentlemen, how do you accept this interference that abases America before it abases Iraq? How can you accept not only the invasion but becoming mired in the internal affairs of Iraq? You know that Iraq is a land of prophets, messengers, and righteous figures. You know that Baghdad is the fourth holiest city in the Arab homeland – after Mecca, al-Madinah, and Jerusalem – in the sight of all of the Islamic world and all of our Arab Nation. How can one imagine that Iraq could reconcile itself to colonial rule, even if it comes, this time, under another name and with other slogans? Save your country, esteemed ladies and gentlemen, and leave Iraq...."
excerpt from a letter to the American people from
Saddam Hussein,
President of the Republic of Iraq and Commander in Chief of the Mujahid Armed Forces.

7 July 2006.

Comment by Jeff on December 17, 2009 at 10:46am

Ye of great faith and hope...

OK, me too...

Comment by Jeff on December 17, 2009 at 9:46am

Terribly embarrassing to be an American in light of that experience. Since I wasn't even born yet there's no sense in apologizing but man, that's a sad day in American history, isn't it?

We seem to be good at that though. The Japanese, Black Americans, the American Indians, Iraqi's, Afghan's, Pakistani's, I'm waiting for us to pick on Iran in the same way. Iran's not a third world population and they have friends in China and Russia. Might be the last time we decide to fuck people over.

This America isn't the America I thought it was. Even the old America isn't the America the history books teach us it is. It's all just really frustrating, being a citizen. We're free but freedom's an illusion.

Comment by I811st on December 17, 2009 at 8:35am

Yeah I understand you, Jeff. My Japanese "relatives" that were here before my mother came to America lost everything they had due to the Internment Camps.Lost their Land, established businesses,and "grandma" miscarriaged two Children. They were all to proud to ever discuss it and right the white-washed,Revisionist History that was taught to us in school. I too grew up confused as to what really happened, and how it was justified in this "Great" country of ours. I unfortunately learned the most about their experience at my "Grandpa's" funeral, and nowadays "grandma's" senility has left her unable to even remember what she ate for breakfast an hour ago. An ounce of deception kills a pound of pain, and the victors will write the history, always.

Comment by Jeff on December 17, 2009 at 8:04am

There are holocaust survivors. I know them personally. I had, until they died years ago, several relatives with numbered tattoos on their upper arms. As a young child it was quite difficult for my parents to explain those tattoos on the arms of my aged relatives. It was just as hard for me to understand. Today I understand.

Comment by I811st on December 17, 2009 at 7:17am

I have a hard time believing self proclaimed "holocaust survivors"...Why would any writer make up stories about the Holocaust? Melissa Katsoulis explores the strangest corner in the bizarre world of the literary hoax in her book 'Telling Tales: a history of literary hoaxes' is published by Constable