Law Enforcement Officers where did the integrity go!

Law Enforcement Officers where did the integrity go!

By J. Patriot


When I was in Law Enforcement I went into it to protect and serve my community without violating the people's God given Rights, and now I read and hear about the irresponsible way that Law Enforcement Officers around the country are acting like with little are no regard for the Publics safety. I and others at one time swore an Oath to uphold and defend the U.S. Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic. Now the Police instead of being the defenders of the People are now becoming the enemy. I plead with all of Law Enforcement not to follow this path, and to stand up for the Oaths they took, and defend the American people from tyranny from enemies foreign and DOMESTIC. Statements like this have me concerned. "Emeryville, CA Police Chief Ken James claims it is a myth that guns have a defensive purpose. He says that "Police Officers do not carry a gun as a defensive weapon" and, further, explicitly states that they are carried by officers for offensive use only -- that they use them "to intimidate and to show power."


Another thing that concerns me is what I believe happened to Chris Dorner. What he did was wrong and should not be praised, but what would drive an Ex Soldier, and Police Officer to this insanity?



Posted on 14th February 2013 by Yojimbo in Economy

Stucky posted this yesterday in the thread “How Did It Work Out For Them?”. I think it deserves to be re-posted.

The Execution of Christopher Dorner


If the murder of Oscar Grant on an Oakland transit platform marked the dawn of the Obama era, the cold-blooded murder of former Naval reservist and Los Angeles Police officer Christopher Dorner might just mark the end of whatever optimistic hope people can muster in his administration. Whether an innocent young man just trying to get home, shot in the back after being racially profiled and slurred, or a man driven to his breaking point after being fired from a similar police force that operates according to its own warped morality and overarching objectives, the state of the union is a powder keg whose wick has gotten shorter due to decades of looking the other way.

Just minutes before Barack Obama began his state of the union address, San Bernardino County Sheriffs, knowing full well what they were doing, burned Christopher Dorner to death. From police brutality and racism to political unaccountability, from lack of economic opportunities to the extrajudicial murder of anyone deemed an enemy of the state, Dorner’s life and death offers us a much clearer picture of the state of this union than last night’s speech or media commentary.

In the years between the murder of Oscar Grant and Dorner’s last stand, March of 2009 to be specific, we were among those observing the case of Lovelle Mixon in Oakland, a parolee who decided he was not going to return to prison, opening fire on police at a traffic stop, killing two. Police went in to execute Mixon, not expecting that he would be holding an SKS. Two more cops died as a result. The logic of Dorner’s desperation, and the chain of events that led to his ultimate death, parallels Mixon’s; proud men without hope, cornered, deciding to go out fighting.

Neither man was a self-understood revolutionary and it would be inaccurate (or perhaps too accurate a reflection of the dearth of revolutionary activity in contemporary society) to try and declare otherwise. However, the material conditions that produced Dorner, as with Mixon, are not uncommon. The meaning and the effects of their actions speak volumes about the depth of racialization, criminalization and hopelessness in Obama’s supposed “post-racial” America.

LAPD Endgame: Street Justice on a Snow-Capped Mountain

The scene could not be more surreal: the remains of a cabin south of Big Bear still smoldering, the President delivered his State of the Union Address. To be fair, they had yet to confirm that the person they were incinerating in a cabin near Big Bear actually was Dorner. Earlier in the day, San Bernardino County Sheriffs received a call reporting a stolen vehicle driven by someone matching a description of Dorner. If the experience of the past five days is any indication, this narrowed it down to Black men, Asian women, and skinny white men. The $1 million dollar reward offered for information leading to Dorner’s capture or death, also offered a measurable rubric for the value of the lives of police officers, as traditionally rewards in homicide cases are closer to $20,000.

In the gathering of hurried interviews some interesting truths from the public made it into the TV news. An MSNBC reporter asked a witness: “Where you worried when you learned that Christopher Dorner was so close to your house?” But the witness responded “Actually, I was just afraid of the cops.” Given the unrestrained violence unleashed in recent days by the LAPD, this sentiment is perhaps unsurprising, but demonstrating a degree of hubris matched only by an utter absence of ironic intent, LAPD chief Charlie Beck said, evidently with a straight face, “To be targeted because of what you are… that is absolutely terrifying.” To which many nationwide responded with an audible guffaw: welcome to the club.

An interview with the man who was allegedly carjacked by Dorner said that, while police had told the man not to tell the whole story, he reported that Dorner had simply said “I don’t want to hurt, take your dog and go.” When sheriff’s deputies found the vehicle yesterday, the driver allegedly retreated into a cabin, at one point re-emerging amid the smoke of a diversionary device to exchange more than 100 rounds of fire with deputies. Two police were injured, with one later dying. Police quickly established a large perimeter, closing highways around Seven Oaks, south of Big Bear up to twenty miles away.

Establishing the perimeter also seemed to mean keeping the media at an arm’s length. While press helicopters had been providing live shots of the cabin in which Dorner was allegedly holed-up, the SBSD quickly requested that media withdraw to roadblocks miles away and that news choppers cease to transmit live video for fear of providing strategic information to Dorner himself. The San Bernardino Sheriff’s Department requested that media outlets and individuals cease and desist from even tweeting about the manhunt and shootout.

Even more astonishing than the request was the immediate compliance: press outlets abruptly ceased to tweet about the developing story, and duly retreating to the roadblocks, abandoned their task of reporting the news and waited for it to be fed to them. To paraphrase but one of many incredulous observers, we speak of press blackouts in China, but all the police had to do here was ask nicely and the press complied without batting an eyelash.

With a voluntary media blackout in effect, the Twittersphere, punctuated with a plethora of indignant and sharply worded refusals to comply with the police, became one of the only sources of developing news. What we know about what happened thereafter owes almost entirely to those who scoured the web for scanner feeds from the San Bernardino Sheriff’s Department and intently followed the story these feeds told.

“The Burn Plan”

Shortly after 4pm Pacific Standard Time, the cabin was engulfed in flames, with CNN helicopters broadcasting plumes of black smoke from a distance of five miles. A single gunshot is reported from within the house. A narrative quickly emerged among the mainstream media, which we should recall was conspicuously absent from the scene, that police agencies had only deployed tear gas, and that perhaps Dorner himself had set the fire. Soon, what seems to be a cache of ammunition is exploding sporadically.

But for those of us listening to the San Bernardino Sheriff’s Department radio frequency, there was little question what had occurred. Nearly a half hour prior, officers had referred to “going ahead with the plan with the burner,” with another adding that the plan was to “back the Bear down and deploy the burner through the turret.” (Live audio during the preceding shootout seems to confirm this intention). Soon, the message was straightforward and expected: “Seven burners have deployed and we have a fire.” No surprised tones, no suggestion that the fire be extinguished.

In fact, there was the exact opposite: a female voice on the scanner repeatedly asks if the fire crews should be allowed to approach, and is told that it’s not time yet, that we need to wait until all four corners are engulfed, then that we need to wait until the roof collapses. At one particularly repulsive point, those on the scene realize that the house has a basement, and an authoritative male voice indicates that the fire crew would not be called until the fire had “burned through the basement.” They were going to let him die.

References to the 1993 massacre at Waco, Texas, the murderous 1985 bombing of the MOVE Organization in Philadelphia were immediate, and will serve as opposing frames for Dorner’s death in the days and weeks to come.

A murder? An assassination? A lynching? An execution.

State of the Union: Flammable

This is a day of a million possible metaphors, but central among these should be the image of the burning house. In an effort to distinguish what he called the “house negro” from the “field negro,” Malcolm X had once observed that the two responded differently when the master’s house caught fire: “But that field negro, remember, they were in the majority, and they hated their master. When the house caught on fire, he didn’t try to put it out, that field negro prayed for a wind.” While the metaphor may seem a strange one, given the fiery death of a man some have compared to a runaway slave. But as many Americans choose to gaze, mesmerized, at the glowing embers of the Dorner saga rather than watching the State of the Union, it’s worth wondering: whose house is really on fire? And who is praying for wind?

The eclipsing of the State of the Union, with some networks airing a split screen of the President’s speech alongside images from Southern California, or omitting pre- and post- speech coverage to report on Dorner’s likely death (a speech given in the context of ongoing war and occupation, unending recession and social crisis and a heated debate about, well, gun control) speaks volumes about our society, the conditions which produced Dorner and has helped produced a surge in mass killings generally. Persistent racist policies couched in the language of security, and failed imperial ventures with war tactics re-imported into American policing, are routinely covered over by the trite conflicts of celebrities, whether they be Kardashians or Congressmen.

Dorner was not just a product of a racist police department, he also no doubt adored his ‘fifteen minutes,’ stealing time from the President he nevertheless supported during the biggest planned speech of the year. Although Dorner’s actions were not driven by a radical consciousness, they are ‘as American as cherry pie’ in an apolitical vacuum that (at least on the surface) resembles Oliver Stone’s Natural Born Killers far more than the political contexts of the 1960s.

As Obama was taking to the lectern, police agencies were insisting that they had not set the fire that killed Christopher Dorner, and the compliant media were parroting this clearly implausible message. As members of Congress stood and sat on cue to rapturously applaud the Commander-in-Chief, more than 14,000 people have liked just one of the Facebook pages in support of Dorner, some because they know what racist policing is like, some because ours is a time of resisting injustice by any means, and some simply for the joy of backing an outlaw to the grisly end.

Dorner was not a radical, but his short war was not simply the story of broken man or of individualistic vengeance. The issues of brutality and racism perpetually covered up by a corrupt police department created the insurgent Dorner and resonated with many people who endure the reality of urban policing on a daily basis. The sympathy and the support Dorner received is a clear indicator of the very real and deep structural inequalities that helped forge the path of Dorner’s life and his fiery death. The great radical historian Mike Davis concluded a recent article on Dorner with a peculiar question: “Does anyone cheer Dorner?” What is peculiar is that, for better or worse, there’s no denying that the answer is “yes.”

There’s no telling what sort of a fire they could start tomorrow.


This is just one of the instances that occur all over the Country with Police Brutality on the rise! There is no accountability for Police Officers anymore! I have never heard or read about such reckless behavior from Law Enforcement Officers! You should always identify your target before shooting lethal rounds in the air that can travel in every direction! Being an Ex Law Enforcement Officer I have the right to say that these Officers are disgrace to the Proffession and the badge! Take their badges before they shoot more innocent civilians!


The LAPD mistakenly shot at two women during the massive manhunt for alleged killer former cop Christopher Dorner. On Thursday morning, at least seven police officers with the Los Angeles Police Department opened fire on the women who were delivering newspapers.

Heading out in the early morning, Margie Carranza, 47, and her mom, Emma Hernandez, 71, were delivering newspapers in a quiet residential area. Riding in a pickup truck that was eerily similar to the ones Christopher Dorner was last seen driving, the ladies were trying to do their job.

The alleged murderer, Christopher Dorner supposedly shot three police officers in Torrance, Cali. One of the three men died in the shooting.

The Los Angeles Times reported that police in El Segundo came upon a truck similar to Dorner’s exiting the freeway. It was driving in the direction of a high ranking Los Angeles police official’s home.

The officers then called a group of police officers who were guarding the home of the high ranking official. They were told that a vehicle that matched the description of Dormer’s grey Nissan Titan was headed in their direction.

As the two women approached the home in their aqua blue Toyota Tacoma, the police officers opened fired on the vehicle. The bullets ripped into the car and the officers never realized they’d made a mistake until they stopped shooting.

Officers realized their mistake when they saw two Hispanic women in the cab of the truck instead of Christopher Dorner who was a 270 pound black man.

Emma Hernandez and her daughter, Margie Carranza both survived the shooting. Carranza received minor injuries from broken glass while her mother was shot twice in the back.

Richard Goo lived in the area where the shooting took place. He stated that the he found five bullet holes in the entryway to his home. Goo questioned the actions of the police officers involved in the shooting saying, “How do you mistake two Hispanic women, one who is 71, for a large black male?”

Glen T. Jonas is an attorney representing the two women. Jonas says his clients told him they “covered their faces and huddled down during the shooting.” He went on to say “They felt like it was going on forever.”

LAPD Chief Charlie Beck spoke with the LA Times regarding the shooting. He stated the incident was a “tragic misinterpretation” by police officers under “incredible tension.” Chief Beck said an investigation into the shooting is under way.

Be sure to check out Kelly’s other columns:

By: Kelly Cozzone

The end justify the means this is an in moral statement that requires no ethics or accountability, and in my opinion is now the new motto of most Law Enforcement Agencies. That’s what troubles me the most! There are still a few good men in women in Law Enforcement that may find themselves where they have to make a decision to keep their job or to do the right thing! May God help you make the right decision for God and Country! I will end this blog with the Police Officer prayer.


"Police Officer?s Prayer" Lord help us protect the innocent, from the evil that men do. And keep us safe as we patrol, for we are the line of blue. May we walk our beats with you by our side, our mission to defend, The innocent who count on us, to bring in the evil men. For I do not wish to bring them harm, I only wish to serve, And bring justice to the lawless men, from my oath I will not swerve. Please forgive me for my sins dear Lord, should I commit them too. And should I have no choice but to raise my arm, may my aim be straight and true. Lord watch over our families, as we enforce the written laws. And comfort them, should I be slain, while fighting for the cause. For if I should not make it home, console those that I do love. Let them know I didn’t die in vain, and that you’re watching from above. And in the end when the evil get, the justice they deserve, May we walk a beat on heaven’s streets, for it’s you we wish to serve. Paul V. Bonder

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Comment by J. Patriot on February 21, 2013 at 2:37pm

kahrdub Usually I don't respond to such ignorance, but not all cops are bad. I do agree that there are getting to be more and more Law Enforcement Officers that abuse their power. When I was a Deputy I always was fair and made sure I kept my Oath of Office and did not abuse my power. I was against the status quo and spoke my mind. I became the black sheep of my Department and eventually lost my job and was forced out, and I know others that have stood up to this abuse of power and they to have been let go. We don't just loose are job but are careers. We are cast a side and black balled and our reputation ruined for standing up for what is right! So before you right a comment like that check out all the facts first. It's getting worse I agree, but we must stand with Law Enforcement who have made a stand, and try to get them back in Law Enforcement. Only together can we win this fight against Evil! Divided we will fall!

Comment by J. Patriot on February 17, 2013 at 3:31pm

The La Times stated that the six Officers are under Investigation from the DA and LAPD Force Investigation Division on the shooting.  Six LAPD officers who took part in the "mistaken identity" shooting of two women delivering newspapers in Torrance on Thursday were placed on administrative leave while the women — Margie Carranza, 47, and her 71-year-old mother, Emma Hernandez — were expected to survive. The good news is that the two woman will survive, but I hope the LAPD does the right thing and takes these over zealous Officers off the force before they do kill an innocent person!

Comment by truth on February 17, 2013 at 2:26pm

you know what they say about opinions :)

Comment by kahrclub on February 17, 2013 at 2:17pm

In my 60 years of living I have not met any cops that were not scum.

Comment by J. Patriot on February 17, 2013 at 10:55am

Your right Pit Bull I still have friends that I worked with that will not go along with this. Even though there are still good people in Law Enforcement it concerns me that this kind of behavior is unchecked or excused! There needs to be ramifications for Officers who disregard the public's safety. I intend on finding out if any displinary actions were passed on the LAPD Officers involved in the mistaken identity shooting before passing judgment on the LAPD. I was a Deputy with several years of service and I know they have ran off and discredit several good Deputies! The Department I use to work at is trying to aquire a Federal License to fly drones in my County. You dont need military drones to enforce the law on civilians! I'm still active with my Law Enforcement License and trying to get my carreer back on track. Thanks for what your doing in your community. We need to reach out to the law Enforcement Community.

Comment by truth on February 17, 2013 at 9:29am

"Destroying the New World Order"


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