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Comment by truth on October 13, 2012 at 7:23pm

Op-Ed: The hijacking of 12160

Alexander

By Alexander Baron

Jul 22, 2012 in Politics

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The 12160 anti-New World Order website used to be a mine of information about police brutality and similar issues. Now it appears to have been hijacked by crazies.

The Mathaba website used to be of a similar high quality, but after the overthrow of Gaddafi, the people who write for it seem to have had some sort of mass apoplectic seizure. The same sort of thing appears to have happened recently to 12160. The website's slogan was and is Destroying the New World Order, a laudable goal if ever there was one. Now, alas, its formerly high value critical content has been replaced by lurid conspiracy mongering by proselytes of the 9/11 Truth Movement, and, far worse, people who might be described as rabid anti-Semites, not simply by Abraham Foxman, who could find anti-Semitism in a bagel recipe, but by ordinary, rational human beings. The 12160 website has also been a good source of material for this humble scribe, including this storyabout an individual who seeks high office in the Democratic Party. Alas, shortly after publishing it and trying to log onto 12160, this is what I saw.

Alexander Baron

You have been suspended, for publishing a rebuttal of lunatic ravings about 9/11.

That's right, banned. Isn't this supposed to be a site that opposes censorship, or is this a case of permissible opinions only? I sent the following message to the webmaster, but received no reply, not even a rude one.

Alexander Baron

A polite request to lift the suspension. Which was ignored.

Of course, it is one thing to ban someone from a website, and another to keep that person off, but like Groucho Marx, I wouldn't want to belong to a club that would accept someone like me as a member. I did though access the site from another computer, and here are some of the things I found. The first example shows somebody needs to learn how to code properly. That and other things. The second example is a review of a book. This is an interesting subject, and a book needs to be written on it, for certain. Unfortunately, Prince Of Fools David Ray Griffin is the last person to write it. By the third link we are in the dark blue yonder. Among other things it includes a number of bogus quotes from the Talmud, and a classic Oprah Winfrey interview with a woman who is a) Jewish and b) mentally ill, as well as much other silliness. A credulous Oprah takes, or appears to take at face value, this woman's claims about the sacrificing of young babies. It doesn't appear to have occurred to her that the police might just have been interested if these claims had any basis in fact. Last night, Saturday, I logged onto the site again, and here is what I found about the recent mass shooting in Denver. Yes, you guessed right, this was another false flag - staged is the word they used, but give it time. It does appear though that at least one person has gone too far for 12160, as can be seen from the screengrab below. The J word, what could that be?

Alexander Baron

Someone else appears to have had an article pulled. Anyone like to hesitate a guess as to what is the J word alluded to?

Is there a point to all this? Of course, this is a website that supports, or professes to support, Ron Paul. What would the average Ron Paul supporter say about the Synagogue of Satan, or any of this other nonsense? Come to think of it, what would Ron Paul say? It is one thing to expose police brutality, the encroaching police state and the machinations of the Federal Reserve. It is quite another to marry that message with exaggerated claims about the power of International Zionism, fanciful tales of Talmudic/Satanic abuse, and endless drivel about 9/11 being an inside job. If your message of individual liberty and debt-free money is tainted with lunacy, bigotry and worse, no one who matters will listen to you. Perhaps that is the point?

Alexander Baron

Not simply suspended, but removed. You are now an unperson. The site that makes such a big deal about the New World Order and censorship tars itself with the same brush.

Comment by truth on August 4, 2012 at 3:18pm

Do not click links on his blog!! Virus warning!

Comment by truth on August 4, 2012 at 11:12am

Vince, I banned this guy. He was only on site for a few days and demanded I moderate the content of this site to his liking. I declined. He was given a reason and I didn't bother to reply beyond that .

Comment by Central Scrutinizer on August 4, 2012 at 11:07am

Everybody hammer this baron dix blog, I've posted 2 so far....w00t!!

Comment by Dianne Stallark on August 4, 2012 at 9:35am

@ॐH●ȴȴɣѾͼͽᵭ....Ditto on Cal!

Comment by Freedomrox on August 4, 2012 at 3:51am

bump

Comment by Freedomrox on August 4, 2012 at 2:54am

Dear Sir,

I have no idea what the owner of this site has in mind...I do not even attempt to ask or answer what the "J" would or wouldn't want on his site. I take it you use the "J" word as a reference to James, (the ad-hoc owner of 12160). I believe you to be a very crass and abrasive person to use only the "J" word to describe the owner. It seems very un-gentlemanly and very provacative! James is a person and such should be addressed as a person and not simply as "J", since I have never seen James featured in the movie "Men In Black". Nor am I "F", or anyone else "K"!

 

What's that? Oh, "J" is supposed to mean what? JEW!???? Your kidding me! Well that is even more crass and childish than at first thought! Everyone with even the smallest modicum of common sense would never blame the Sephardic Jews of anything since their religion warrants only that they serve NO COUNTRY on EARTH WHATSOEVER! So, how can one claim anyone is blaming the JEWS?

 

Possibly this kind soul is only referring to Zionists. That must be it. But that starts with a "Z". Curiouser and Curiouser! Zionist's have been a reknowned force since the early days of 1867, possibly before, but not so much in America, until a rise in Zionist activities too place after the War of Norther Aggression. At this time, a call went forth from the Zionists that claimed Israel was a real land that had been promised to them by God, after these Zionist acclimated "New Jews" of Khazarian ancestry were converted to Judaism while they lived upon the Steppes of Russia. They then deigned themselves "Zionists", and lead the call for the State of Isreal in the land of the biblical Phillistines, (popularly known as Palestine, and as much a part of the World Map as Britain was at the time).

 

These so-called Zionists numbered among them several influential families, world reknowned as Bankers, such as the Rothschild's clan, and the Warburg's, and the Rosenveldt's and Schiff's. etc., etc. etc.

 

Not only that, but even though their hands were seen in economic collapse after economic collapse in the late 1800's, ESPECIALLY the one in 1892, that inspired L. Frank Baum to write a cautionary tale, AKA "The Wonderful Wizard Of Oz" to explain the hijacking of America's monetary system by men of evil intent behind the curtains of power.

 

These same men also wrote the Balfour Declaration just as the first World War was caused to happen, involving the US in a European war it's people never wanted and Zionist-affiliated Congressmen adopted the Jekyll Island conspiracy that imposed the Federal Reserve upon an unsuspecting nation in 1913, not to mention a Zionist-PAC Controlled SENATE THAT PASSED IT SIGHT UNSEEN!

 

So, sir, forgive me if I seem to be in any way combative with you or even disagree with your usage of the "J" word, since it is apparent that you are a troll, or ignorant! If ignorant, then please contact me and I will endeavor to cure any ignorance you might suffer from, because that is curable. Now if you persist in ignoring history as written and continue with your slanderous usage of the "J" word, then I will deem you as "S", and that stand for just plain Stupid, and I have found that is an incurable disease.

 

As for your so-called banning, then I have a sneaky suspicion that you are not showing the whole story, since I see you only posted your nice request, and not what got you banned in the first place. Also, there are others that are capable of banning besides the "J" word, or James, and maybe in a fit of pique, may have done so to you, and if so...they either had a damn good reason, or much more harsh words were exchanged.

 

How would I know? I was banned once too, and I did not kiss ass nor apologize for my viewpoints, nor bashed anyone else. I just apologized for my harsh words and demeanor and was allowed to go about my business. I truly blieve you have an axe to grind and believe that 12160 is the one to grind it on because you had an unpleasant experience. For that, all of us here are sad to hear.

 

You catch more adherents with honey, than with vinegar. Something you may need to consider in the future.

Comment by Cryptocurrency on August 4, 2012 at 1:30am

Wtf? I feel like this is an experiment in artificial stupidity...

Comment by Michael Clair on August 4, 2012 at 1:11am

I think going around claiming to "know" or claiming 9/11 is an inside job as "fact" is reckless and destroys credibility. Be aware and consider the possiblities but bear in mind that trickery is easy for a motivated human and just as the video shown to us via Mass Media can be altered so can other's you tube video of such recordings. I've seen some very interesting videos as well and read a lot of good arguments but I'll only claim to know that we were lied to and there was a cover up but I don't know this to be a fact.
I don't even see enough to know that it was an inside job either, perhaps awareness and lack of action very plausible and likely but not planned out by the government and than hidden. No that is to messy, just allow all controls that would have stopped them to be relaxed and let it happen. Not what I would classify as an inside job, just people not doing the job we paid them to do. For me, and others which is why I'm offering this to ya'll, an inside job would be anywhere from them planning it out and crashing thing into these buidlings or them compeletely making the attacks up and feeding the media fake videos.
I don't see the latter as provable by anything over the internet and could only be sorted out in a court in which we can attack all data in the open. Until that time though it should be enough for the people if you present the evidence that shows how there was a likely cover up and get an investigation whilsy outing the sort of people that would do as such.

Comment by Michael Clair on August 4, 2012 at 1:02am

As I noticed some reacted in anger and this is hardly something you should be mad about I figured I'd point that out too...
Vincent, either the guy is a liar and thus not "crying" just being a jack ass or he is not lying and he was banned for having a different opinion. Either way your comment seems to try to hard to put the guy down so I figured I'd point out the illogical nature of such a comment. And ... what is that "hollywood"?... it sure doesn't seem like he went through many artciles from what I can tell but cutting anything off him also seems rather inappropriate. 

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