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Comment by I811st on December 29, 2009 at 4:51pm

I was trying to say that I "support" the troops on an individual basis , just as i would offer whatever support I feel like giving anyone i meet by chance.I'm not gonna go out of my way on some crusade to give socks and hustler mags to the G.I.'s. but If , by chance i meet one of them , I would base my opinion of them at that moment. Maybe it will be a "fuck off, Asshole",or maybe I have some information they are willing to accept. Or I might see them hitch hiking on the highway and based on my intuition, and an old tradition of my late grandfather, I just might pull over and give a person a lift, a Soldier ,a Hippie, Or a Punk, They are all just humans and if they were fooled into committing heartless crimes, then I can only feel compassion for their lack of understanding.
You wanna know what relly made me violently oppose the recruiters in High School?
Stanley Kubrick's "FULL METAL JACKET", not to mention that "A CLOCKWORK ORANGE" was my favorite movie in those days.whatever that's worth.

Comment by Jeff on December 29, 2009 at 4:17pm

Yeah, if every young kid were taught Henry's quote in elementary school, junior high school and again in high school we might not be murdering people all over the globe. That's a great quote and he certainly didn't mean for it to slip out like that. It was said in private but there it is, for all to see, yet few are even aware of its critical importance.

Comment by Jeff on December 29, 2009 at 4:08pm

Support our troops? How? All of them have been duped into killing innocent civilians in countries I've never been to and can't pronounce.

Should I send them socks? Winter gloves? Penthouse? I can barely pay my own bills. How should I support them? Cheer them on? I don't think so. They need to put down their weapons, refuse orders and come home. Even if that means jail.

I support Victor Augusto, Travis Bishop and their friends, who have been jailed or are facing jail for refusing to deploy. They're the people, they're the troops I support.

NO ONE is going to get me to support the troops using the crap that you're un-American if you don't support the troops. Support our troops? I do, the ones with intelligence and courage.

Shit man, even the US government doesn't support the troops. They come home battered and dead, compromised in every way by injuries and PTSD and the US government discards them, forgets about them, allows them to shrivel up and die.

Sorry, I'll support PFC Victor Augusto and Sgt Travis Bishop and others like them. Those are courageous servicemen. They have the balls to stand up and say, "No, I will not deploy to an illegal war" and they have the balls to face the consequences of jail.

I'm not stupid.

Comment by I811st on December 29, 2009 at 4:02pm

NWO or not, Having a job and performing your duty in the Armed Forces also means YOU'RE WORKIN FOR A BUNCH OF ASSHOLES.
"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy."
-Henry Kissinger, quoted by Bob Woodward in The Final Days, 1976

Comment by I811st on December 29, 2009 at 3:56pm

FIGHT WAR, NOT WARS!
I support most troops, I owe the Armed Forces for my very existence. If it werent for my Grandmother getting remarried to a "yankee" G.I. , towards the end of WWII,My mom would have never escaped the nuclear assault that Our Big powerful country had planned for them. So I support our troops, i just don't support our POOPS.

Comment by Jeff on December 29, 2009 at 3:47pm

Machinegunmomma, I'm sure your sons a bright guy. I still wouldn't join the military, for any reason.

Saddam wasn't the nicest man but he wasn't the bad guy we were told he is.

Go to "Saddam Hussein" on Wikipedia and scroll down to the sub-heading "Modernization Program." That's what they forgot to tell you about Saddam. That's what no one knows. We're spoon fed lies.

Comment by Jeff on December 29, 2009 at 3:02am

Actually I take great pride in being the best average person that I can. More people should. You always provide enlightening comments.

Comment by Jeff on December 29, 2009 at 12:37am

Yeah, well, while I agree with you that doesn't mean my personality fits that paradigm which makes this peacenik find great difficulty in understanding the mentality.