Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc.
I don't celebrate corporate holidays.
Before you go, listen to my reasoning. I'm not asking you to agree but simply to think it over.
Because gift-giving and many other aspects of the Christmas festival involve heightened economic activity among both Christians and non-Christians, the holiday has become a significant event and a key sales period for retailers and businesses, the same corporate entities I've chosen to boycott for the remainder of my life. The economic impact of Christmas is a factor that has grown steadily over the past few centuries and is a significant sales period for all retailers. So much so that most major retailers make little profit throughout the year and bank on the holiday season to reach their yearly sales goals. For most of us, if not all of us, this means shopping at Target, the malls and Wal-Mart, all places I try to stay away from at all costs. They are the equivalent of sweat-shops in the United States. Retail stores in this country aren't terribly different than sweat shops in India. An person cannot maintain a lifestyle, pay rent, utilities, buy food, cover medical expenses, own a car and enjoy life as a retail employee.
All holidays here in the United States are nothing more than a corporate facade to boost sales.
Our Christmas season, the 25th of December and slightly before and after, has nothing to do with the birth of Christ.
Isaac Newton argued that the date of Christmas was selected to correspond with the winter solstice, which in ancient times was marked on December 25.
In 1743, German Protestant Paul Ernst Jablonski argued Christmas was placed on December 25 to correspond with the Roman solar holiday Dies Natalis Solis Invicti and was therefore a "paganization" that debased the true church.
In 1889, Louis Duchesne suggested that the date of Christmas was calculated as nine months after the Annunciation (March 25), the traditional date of the Incarnation.
The New Testament does not give a date for the birth of Christ.
Around AD 200, Clement of Alexandria wrote that a group in Egypt celebrated the nativity on Pachon 25. This corresponds to May 20th. Tertullian (d. 220) does not mention Christmas as a major feast day in the Church of Roman Africa. However, in Chronographai, a reference work published in 221, Sextus Julius Africanus suggested that Jesus was conceived on the spring equinox, popularizing the idea that Christ was born on December 25. The equinox was March 25 on the Roman calendar, so this implied a birth in December. De Pascha Computus, a calendar of feasts produced in 243, gives March 28 as the date of the nativity. In 245, the theologian Origen of Alexandria stated that, "only sinners (like Pharaoh and Herod)" celebrated their birthdays. In 303, Christian writer Arnobius ridiculed the idea of celebrating the birthdays of gods, which suggests that Christmas was not yet a feast at this time.
Likewise, Thanksgiving is very much the same. It's a holiday based on myth.
The date and location of the first Thanksgiving celebration is a topic of modest contention. The traditional "first Thanksgiving" is the celebration that occurred at the site of Plymouth Plantation, in 1621. The Plymouth celebration occurred early in the history of what would become one of the original thirteen colonies that became the United States. The celebration became an important part of the American myth by the 1800s. This Thanksgiving, modeled after celebrations that were commonplace in contemporary Europe, is generally regarded as America's first. Elementary school teacher Robyn Gioia has argued that the earliest attested "thanksgiving" celebration in what is now the United States was on September 8, 1565 in what is now Saint Augustine, Florida. Today, Thanksgiving is celebrated on the second Monday of October in Canada and on the fourth Thursday of November in the United States. Thanksgiving dinner is held on this day, usually as a gathering of family members and friends.
Honestly, for me and my family, every day is a holiday worth celebrating.
So for those of you that sent me Thanksgiving wishes, it is much appreciated. Forgive me if I celebrate every single day of my life and don't regard any single day as more important than another. And forgive me if I refuse to participate in gift giving in any way other than perhaps to hand craft certain items through the entire year for no other reason than that I love my friends and family and choose to show it consistently throughout the year as opposed to following a corporate, or Fascist policy.
Peace
Before you go, listen to my reasoning. I'm not asking you to agree but simply to think it over.
Because gift-giving and many other aspects of the Christmas festival involve heightened economic activity among both Christians and non-Christians, the holiday has become a significant event and a key sales period for retailers and businesses, the same corporate entities I've chosen to boycott for the remainder of my life. The economic impact of Christmas is a factor that has grown steadily over the past few centuries and is a significant sales period for all retailers. So much so that most major retailers make little profit throughout the year and bank on the holiday season to reach their yearly sales goals. For most of us, if not all of us, this means shopping at Target, the malls and Wal-Mart, all places I try to stay away from at all costs. They are the equivalent of sweat-shops in the United States. Retail stores in this country aren't terribly different than sweat shops in India. An person cannot maintain a lifestyle, pay rent, utilities, buy food, cover medical expenses, own a car and enjoy life as a retail employee.
All holidays here in the United States are nothing more than a corporate facade to boost sales.
Our Christmas season, the 25th of December and slightly before and after, has nothing to do with the birth of Christ.
Isaac Newton argued that the date of Christmas was selected to correspond with the winter solstice, which in ancient times was marked on December 25.
In 1743, German Protestant Paul Ernst Jablonski argued Christmas was placed on December 25 to correspond with the Roman solar holiday Dies Natalis Solis Invicti and was therefore a "paganization" that debased the true church.
In 1889, Louis Duchesne suggested that the date of Christmas was calculated as nine months after the Annunciation (March 25), the traditional date of the Incarnation.
The New Testament does not give a date for the birth of Christ.
Around AD 200, Clement of Alexandria wrote that a group in Egypt celebrated the nativity on Pachon 25. This corresponds to May 20th. Tertullian (d. 220) does not mention Christmas as a major feast day in the Church of Roman Africa. However, in Chronographai, a reference work published in 221, Sextus Julius Africanus suggested that Jesus was conceived on the spring equinox, popularizing the idea that Christ was born on December 25. The equinox was March 25 on the Roman calendar, so this implied a birth in December. De Pascha Computus, a calendar of feasts produced in 243, gives March 28 as the date of the nativity. In 245, the theologian Origen of Alexandria stated that, "only sinners (like Pharaoh and Herod)" celebrated their birthdays. In 303, Christian writer Arnobius ridiculed the idea of celebrating the birthdays of gods, which suggests that Christmas was not yet a feast at this time.
Likewise, Thanksgiving is very much the same. It's a holiday based on myth.
The date and location of the first Thanksgiving celebration is a topic of modest contention. The traditional "first Thanksgiving" is the celebration that occurred at the site of Plymouth Plantation, in 1621. The Plymouth celebration occurred early in the history of what would become one of the original thirteen colonies that became the United States. The celebration became an important part of the American myth by the 1800s. This Thanksgiving, modeled after celebrations that were commonplace in contemporary Europe, is generally regarded as America's first. Elementary school teacher Robyn Gioia has argued that the earliest attested "thanksgiving" celebration in what is now the United States was on September 8, 1565 in what is now Saint Augustine, Florida. Today, Thanksgiving is celebrated on the second Monday of October in Canada and on the fourth Thursday of November in the United States. Thanksgiving dinner is held on this day, usually as a gathering of family members and friends.
Honestly, for me and my family, every day is a holiday worth celebrating.
So for those of you that sent me Thanksgiving wishes, it is much appreciated. Forgive me if I celebrate every single day of my life and don't regard any single day as more important than another. And forgive me if I refuse to participate in gift giving in any way other than perhaps to hand craft certain items through the entire year for no other reason than that I love my friends and family and choose to show it consistently throughout the year as opposed to following a corporate, or Fascist policy.
Peace
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Comment by Jeff on November 24, 2009 at 4:51pm
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thank you, all of you for just stopping by.
Every day's a holiday and the Thanksgiving Holiday will be just that.
To Peace on earth for all of humanity.
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That's great Starbuck, I wish everyone would give a little more to those who have less, like you do.
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illuminated-dj, THANKS for that. It provides great insight into what we've all allowed ourselves to become and what we inadvertently support by our actions.
Patriot Horse, on this subject you and I agree 100%. There is NOTHING wrong with celebrating Thanksgiving or Christmas, as long as you have perspective. We all deserve happiness and we all deserve special days of happiness.
I published a magazine for years and my printer, Greg, had a saying which he evoked every time I asked him how he was doing. You know, like, "Hey, Greg, how ya doin?" which of course I said to him every time I saw him. His answer was always the same.
"Every day's a holiday!"
For me, every day is a day to rejoice. If I wake up I am thankful for another moment on the planet.
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Comment by illuminated-dj on November 23, 2009 at 4:34pm
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heres where thanksgiving is reversed.dont mean to shock anyone,just spare a thought
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Merry Christmas and Happy Thanksgiving Greg. May all of your dreams and wishes for the holiday season come true!!! For you, your family and friends.
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By the way, naturally I wish EVERYONE a wonderful Thanksgiving Holiday. That should go without saying. I'm not a scrooge. I just find no value in the corporate 'holidayzation' of America because I see it as just another hidden tax. I wish EVERYONE a wonderful Christmas Season too. I just wish the money were spent in other ways.
Perhaps valuable Christmas gifts would be things like repairing a neighbors roof, cutting a lawn, shoveling snow, insulating a home, repairing a car, those types of things. Giving 'stuff' and especially toys manufactured from plastic (petroleum) and objects manufactured from other natural resources that less than a year later are forgotten and actually become unwanted garbage and have no actual value except to enrich the retailers seems like a completely unproductive thing to me.
BUT, please, enjoy the holidays since the rest of the year is an extreme grind.
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Greg, Thanksgiving is as commercialized as all other holidays and what's worse, there's no basis in fact for the holiday. It provides additional income that wouldn't normally be there for factory farms churning out turkey's all year as well as other products like ornaments, costumes and other things. Corporations of all types profit immensely from the overall spending that Americans do as a result of this purely corporate holiday. I'm not asking anyone to agree with me, just to examine their values. Every day should be a day of thanksgiving Greg, especially if family values are high on your list.
I can put together a family feast on any day of the year and precisely because it isn't on Thanksgiving it has even far more value to my family. My family doesn't need a corporate holiday to get together, share our friendship and love for life, feast on a great meal and enjoy the cohesiveness of family.
Greg, we live in a corrupt world of people who DO believe in god, not in a corrupt world of people who Don't believe in god. You are sadly mistaken. Belief in god or religion has NOTHING to do with it. Corruption is an equal opportunity exploitation and manifest itself in both religious and non-religious people equally.
In fact, some of the best citizens I know have no religious beliefs at all. Religion does not dictate character. Character comes from within. You have to be a good person first. Religion never makes someone good and in fact the divisive nature of religion is directly responsible for the death of millions of human beings throughout the course of history.
Human nature and goodness have nothing to do with religion, nothing at all. If you believe that religion is a prerequisite for human goodness you will have failed to recognize the absolute goodness in a large portion of humanity that doesn't abide by religious belief.
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No worries greg,just pisses me off,westerners enjoy the materialism of christmas,yet claim to be celebraiting what is off god,while some kid in a sweatshop in some poor country toils to make our materials and what we all have today.materialism and trinkets is not of god.i know you're not like that,just most of the general public.they enjoy the materialism and trinkets without giving a thought to those who will never experience a christmas
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Remember greg,theres always someone in some poor country being exploited because of those blessings
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I certainly didn't mean to depress anyone, but I'm also a staunch anti-NWO guy and I make no exceptions.
As for religion, the internet has as much information as it has disinformation about the NWO and religion.
My personal opinion is that the NWO has every interest in maintaining religious beliefs as they stand right now and no interest in changing anything. That's because as religious beliefs are, they are DEVISIVE, they divide us all and prevent us from forming cohesive relationships, just like the abortion issue and the immigration issue which are often based on religious lines of thinking.
The NWO is strictly a social, economic and political movement by well educated Harvard, Yale, Princeton and top collegiate educated corporate and political managers. These people are intelligent and gravitate to the top of the global empire using finance to make radical social, economic and political changes. Current religious beliefs are to their extreme benefit as can be seen by the apparent division between Christians, Catholics, Jews and Muslims. If we all had the same religious beliefs it would be far easier to rise up against them. We would have a common bond which we don't have now.
That's why I argue against bringing religion into this fight. It divides us.
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