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Comment by space wabbit on July 20, 2014 at 3:13pm

Good point  - Not Mainstreamer.

Comment by Not mainstreamer on July 20, 2014 at 3:07pm

There are many types of schaff. Some types will be 1000's of alu pieces. Ease to identify when found, and it must be a lot of them - and then connecting type of schaff to weapon system (Russian/American ..)

Comment by space wabbit on July 20, 2014 at 2:34pm

If indeed a SAM ground missile system was used in the downing of MH17, then it would have required assistance in the form of radar guidance – a capability not even remotely known to be in the hands of rebels in Eastern Ukraine, but was certainly in the possession of NATO-backed Defense Ministry in Kiev.

Comment by space wabbit on July 20, 2014 at 2:19pm

MH17 Was Diverted For Explosion

So what could account for the lapse in radar systems just before MH17 crashed?

According to a YouTube report by POTRBLOG, there was evidence that military craft had been deployed in the area, which would reveal what could have provided the radar coverage, corroborating other accounts by Spanish air traffic control, that fighter jets were nearby the passenger plane before it was downed.

There are other pressing questions that need to be answered, as it has been confirmed by Malaysia Airlines itself, that Kiev-based Ukrainian air controllers had requested that MH17 lower its altitude just before the plane’s demise. Add to this, the fact that this MH17 passenger jet was redirected so it would fly directly through a war-zone where a number of planes and helicopters had apparently been shot down over the last three weeks.

If indeed a SAM ground missile system was used in the downing of MH17, then it would have required assistance in the form of radar guidance – a capability not even remotely known to be in the hands of rebels in Eastern Ukraine, but was certainly in the possession of NATO-backed Defense Ministry in Kiev.

The report below details a substance used by military planes to obscure an aircraft from radar and radar guided missiles called ‘Chaff’…