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DS, like you I abhor the very idea of violence, but it is NOT murder if the force is initiated by an aggressor/ predator.
It would be self-defense, which is the fundamental right of ALL free, sovereign individuals - I would hasten a guess that most folks on 12160 knowingly or unknowingly live by the non-aggression principle/ zero-aggression principle
We have a choice to walk away or defend ourselves, if and when faced with such a situation.
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