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Comment by Patriot Horse on June 1, 2013 at 6:26pm

My personal opinion of this post is, since I KNOW some of the dedicated men and indirectly know Mr. S Rhodes, I think is really A LOT to ask or criticize of why an organization won't stand or march or participate. Gosh... if organizations take a stand, it's on THEIR conviction, what their heads have decided. Whether we agree or not... why not concentrate on the groups that ARE marching and standing with Adam!   So easy to point the finger and say this and that and bash. I say stop already!   Leave OK alone geesh!

Comment by T Stirhen on June 1, 2013 at 4:48pm

I sent a message to Oathkeepers about what Adam was doing (March on Wash DC, that I thought it was foolish and dangerous.

Also sent a message to Oathkeepers about Adam's unlawful arrest and that they needed to do something about it or they are NOT KEEPING WITH THEIR OATH.

They have stated very directly that that specific site is an educational site only. Yet Oathkeepers stated purpose is: "Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of current and formerly serving military, reserves, National Guard, veterans, Peace Officers, and Fire Fighters who will fulfill the Oath we swore, with the support of like minded citizens who take an Oath to stand with us, to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, so help us God. Our Oath is to the Constitution

Our motto is "Not on our watch!""

I like Oathkeepers, but it is getting VERY hard for them as they are NOT keeping the Oath as they have declared they would (support & defend the US Constitution). I have brought that to their attention more times then they wanted to hear I am sure. 

I am not an insider, so am not privy to what is actually going on. But I am VERY disappointed that they have not filed lawsuits on the outright treason committed by Obama, Panetta, Dempsey - though that would make them a bigger target then they already are. Nor have they filed any lawsuits concerning Clinton, Obama, etc being indicted for war crimes (as had Bush 1, B. Clinton, Bush 2, and their adminstrations) and need to now be prosecuted for it.  Basically there are many criminal and civil offenses that have not been followed through on. But Oathkeepers are now making it hard for those who are learning how important it is to keep the lawfully required Oath, and then Oathkeepers does not.

The US Constitution is NOT dead, it is not enforced. When Oath takers do not keep their lawfully required Oath they no longer meet the LAWFUL requirements of the office they are occupying. This is up to "We the People" the second branch of the American government (states/feds being the other 2 branches).

WE need to demand NO MORE machines when we vote. Let the feds know that we are aware that the UN cannot lawfully have ANY type of "authority"  over the USA and that any involved in ANY part of trying to make that happen is committing treason (even the person who makes the copies) and that "We the people" ARE GOING TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE IN A COURT OF LAW - US Constitution and under laws, etc that are IN PURSUANCE THEREOF THE US CONSTITUTION. Start holding those accountable in your states for their duties that are assigned them are laid out in the state Constitution.

Any drone "pilot", military or LEO doing spying/tracking/searches/etc without a warrant listing EXACTLY what they are looking for are also committing treason against the USA. They are all someone's friend, family member, let them know.

This illegal immigration stuff Obama and his admin is doing is not lawful since it has been proven in a court of law that he and H. Clinton were never LAWFULLY presidential candidates in the 2008 election.  (A jury in South Bend, Indiana has found that fraud put President Obama and Hillary Clinton on the presidential primary ballot in Indiana in the 2008 election. And The 2008 Democratic Nominating Committee (DNC) document did not include language stating that Obama was qualified to be a candidate. The 2008 Republican Nominating Committee (RNC) document did, as is normal. This shows that the DNC knew that Obama was not qualified, or why change the form?

Comment by TheLasersShadow on June 1, 2013 at 6:31am

The constitution is just a piece of paper and essentially dead because it is not enforced hardly at all on the big issues. We also have 9 fools who dress up in funny black costumes and sit on a bench interrupting what the constitution says and it's intent, although most Americans can read it just fine. Whats the point of worshiping at the feet of the constitution if it HAS NOT succeeded in protecting you from government or guaranteed your freedom like intended. In my book when something isn't working properly, demonstrated failure and the mechanism of government in general has demonstrated failure to serve the best interests of the people throughout all of history. I call that a failed endeavor, we have to go back to the drawing board on how we run society. We need a heavily chained down government, local government should be the most powerful not the feds. Feds should only be conducting foreign policy at the behest of the states, guarding the boarder and coordinating the states military forces, nothing else. I said states military forces, the feds should not have a military or police force. Even a foreign intell agency is iffy as that is so abused. Big states such as California, Texas etc. could sponsor an aircraft carrier and it would be part of that states Naval force (sitting in port or close by). This type of thinking can free us if we like, sticking to an old document that anticipated many things very well also failed outright on just as many more. Very happy the 2nd amendment was added lol, will help us survive their mistakes.

Comment by Nobody Will Observe on May 31, 2013 at 10:02pm

UHMMM HMMMM ;)!

Comment by Patriot Horse on May 31, 2013 at 10:00pm

Hmmmmmm. Hmmmmm. That's all I'm gonna comment on this.

Comment by Nobody Will Observe on May 31, 2013 at 3:47pm

TheLasersShadow  Appreciate you posting this.  I have a small insight and history as to OK.  It's a convoluted world.  Adam is wise in much of what his says, have thought so for years. But something is/has gone very wrong with his thinking process IMO.  Perhaps OK did him a BIG favor by not standing with him by

''Pushing him over a bridge"

Gee... why would Stewart or anyone at OK call Kokesh an anarchist? perhaps because he want's to do away with the Constitution?

The Hyperventilating you refer to was logic. But then again the title is an oxymoron.

"Oath Keepers are the redcoat loyalists, Stewart Rhodes is anarchist"