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Comment by Scott Roloff on September 17, 2010 at 12:24pm

This certainly has been an interesting discussion. Here are some of my favorite quotes from members on this topic...

"Now I go my my gut and inner voice for truth not a radio host"
"You have a choice. You can act one of two ways. You can be a force for good. Or you can be a force for chaos."
"Live as close to God as possible, do good by other and try to be joyful and happy."
"...we need to stick to, what the 'powers' that be are telling us is garbage and show it with evidence."

On God... I certainly cannot condemn another for their belief if I want to enjoy these freedoms for myself, but I do find offense when someone tries to push their belief on me and judges me negatively when I don't acquiesce. Personally, I will say that I have had a spiritual experience that cannot be explained to me any other way than to point to a creator.
The Battle...It seems overwhelming. Out numbered, out gunned, with no clear advantage except this ability to see that we've been manipulated and controlled in the most shocking of ways. Just knowing is both a blessing and curse. What to do with that understanding is a great challenge. Do we even have a choice in the matter?
I would say to the atheist,"Do you believe you have a choice?" "Can the future be changed?" For a belief in freewill and a non-determined future is as great a statement of faith as the one who says they believe in God. Therefore, we are left with a two possibilities. One a world that has hope and purpose, the other is a world with no meaning.

Comment by enddebtslavery on September 17, 2010 at 11:46am

Great if you believe in a 'god', sorry i don't. This is typical of what devides the 'truth movement' people having the answers for us without the proof. Everything we believe in here as in 9/11 being a staged event, becomes conspiracy theory when we say 'this happened' or 'they did it' we need to stick to, what the 'powers' that be are telling us is garbage and show it with evidence. Thats it though, it is very difficult to say what happened exactly and when we come up with theories we're inviting ridicule, the media needs to find the slightest mistake and they'll drum it into the heads of the population and we go back to square one again.
I'm sorry, you americans have had the bible all but rammed down your necks but the basic truth is, you cannot, have not and will not prove the existance of a 'god' and showing people or reading from a book doesn't cut it. I fail to see how intelligent people investigate these crimes with years of dedication yet believe in an 'god' (power/being/idol whatever) with the absolute minimum of evidence.

Comment by Anthony Kimbrough on September 15, 2010 at 3:58pm

I know some years ago myself and 4 others looked into missing children. We managed to dig up a lot of info and all was fine until we got something that didn't sit well. I lost a forum and a computer's data, 2 others lost their computer data, and 2 we haven't heard from to this day. We didn't even know what we had for the most part but were slowly connecting the dots. If someone gets close or finds data that is accidentally there (rare), then you will not get much closer. Apparently it didn't teach me a lesson and it did at the same time. The other 2 quit all together. Lost was on from Japan and one from Europe.

I do believe that God expects us to fight back, but our bodies we have already lost control of. The thing they desire most however is what they don't have, a soul and a chance for redemption. It is battle for just that and that is the one thing THEY cannot take from us, we have to surrender it.

Ephesians 6:12
'For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities,
against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places.'

Comment by Anthony Kimbrough on September 14, 2010 at 11:32pm

I'll have to say that I think he is spot on. One of the first ones that I have seen come out with it. Here, there seems to be more that do seek the real truth than other places.

He is right you know. We all set at these computers which they design and search for things they will never allow come to light. But we feel vindicated, like we have accomplished something. I'm as guilty of that as the next person. How many online protest letters have I signed. How many phone calls have I placed. A speech at a local town meeting where nobody there could answer the first question as people looked on and remained silent. We are like a dog chasing a car who walks away with his head in the air, feeling like we've done our part.

Even if we did, by chance get them to court, they own the court, the lights that illuminate the courtroom and the press that reports it. Personally I believe that God has a season for everything, or so I have understood it that way in the Bible, and that includes war. Unfortunately though God isn't allowed these days, too many ball games, TV shows, Internet... you name it. So those who did try and stand up will be put down fast.

I really thought it would come to a head by now and people would say enough... I was wrong. Be it a drugged society, spiritually devout, or who knows, maybe people just like being controlled. When this does come to a head, and it will, the one thing I will leave this place with is my soul. One day, and probably one day soon they will decide they don't need most of us, and our time will be up, I really don't see it the other way around. I really don't expect us to do much more than bitch and squirm as we die, hopefully it will be fast. Thing is, will you die or just come to life when the breathing stops. I can assure you that death is terrifying and I don't care how brave you are. Been there and got the T Shirt as it goes. The one thing they can't have is my faith, and that ensures me I will not die, nor will I my body die alone.

Comment by Ray Charsley on September 11, 2010 at 5:14am

This is too much like my own thoughts and feelings, although as an athiest my search is for facts and the truth.The few people that own the world would change it if it wasn't to their liking, this is how they want it to be. We need find the common ground and grow as a movement to have any effect.

Comment by luggnutz on September 10, 2010 at 10:28pm

hilary_155 is lost.....this man appears to be FOUND! May Jehovah and Jesus bless his efforts! He has found one of the most important truths! This is what William Cooper warned about. And William DID follow Jesus and profess faith in him. He was steering us back towards the bible, and they gunned him down for it! For the truly faithful, this does not instill fear but emboldens us to action! Great video my man!!!

Comment by fireguy on September 10, 2010 at 2:05pm

Jesus said occupy till he returns. That is what we are about holding our piece of ground. Spreading the word of truth and occuping what ever we can till Christ returns.

Death to the NWO.

Comment by hilary_155 on September 8, 2010 at 1:48am

You have a choice. You can act one of two ways. You can be a force for good. Or you can be a force for chaos. Telling people that the water is fluoridated and that fluoride is a poison is a good thing to do. Claiming that the person warning you that the water is fluoridated is the beast is not logical and I must say, that you seem to have failed to have learned the lesson intended from the material presented.

Comment by hilary_155 on September 8, 2010 at 1:42am

What is wrong with truth? The intent of the Scientific method is to get to the truth.

You don't have to tell people. All you have to do is live right and be happy. Once you do that, once you find the path, other people will approach YOU and ask YOU why you are so content. :-)

"'Those with the foresight to prepare in advance of chaotic times cannot help but be looked to as leaders by those who have failed to observe the signs.'" -paraphrased from a Heinlein novel.

Comment by illuminated-dj on September 5, 2010 at 3:45pm

Scott people have been spoiled and think the government is here to help and dont wanna believe such things could happen as they fail to learn from history!Adversaty makes men,Prosperity makes monsters!-Victor Hugo

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