E-Cigarettes Invented in China Are Not Safe - They Contain Antifreeze Compound

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One of my friends was smoking these "E-Cigarettes" as he was trying to quit the Nicotine habit.  Over the space of 3 months the side effects of these E-Cigarettes were horrific.  He appeared as though he had a stroke and didn't know he was drooling until we (his friends) told him.  He is 50 years old and has since quit these horrific e-cigarettes.  I told him that I found information that there is an "antifreeze compound" in these e-cigarettes.  He was horrified.  He went back to nicotine - for now.

I think the "lack of smoke inhalation" greatly outweighs any potential deviants from the vapor based realm of things.  Vaporizing weed and tobacco is the way to go IMO. I predict one day, we will actually stimulate the air we breath with biological sustenance as another form of energy consumption.

And stuff from China is always questionable =x

I would not trust anything made in China.  Have you thought about smoking a pipe?  The pipe tobacco has not been chemicalized and is much cheaper than cigarettes.  A friend of mine went from cigarettes to pipe smoking and love it.  The aromatic tobacco has girls following him everywhere.

Heard anything bad about American Spirits?

http://whyfiles.org/183smoking/images/american_spirit.jpg

American Spirit:
Considering strictly the product itself (disregarding price), I can say with some certainty that this is the best common cigarette out there. I'm not sure if the description refers to the yellow or orange pack, but there's little difference and they're both excellent, I smoke both of them along with a few other blends. The taste is unprecedented, I hardly believed a cigarette could taste so good the first time I smoked one, the flavor is loudly bold for a light cigarette, but I see that as a plus because they do maintain a light, yet balanced drag.

ya, they're overpriced liars ;)

Heavy vaper here since 2009. No problems whatsoever.

An interesting fact about propylene glycol is that it is non-toxic when ingested even in reasonably large amounts. Unlike its dangerous and frequently lethal cousin, ethylene glycol, PG is easily metabolized by the liver into normal products of the citric acid metabolic cycle, which are completely nontoxic to the body. Approximately 45 percent of any ingested PG is excreted directly from the body and never even comes into contact with the liver. The elimination half-life for propylene glycol is approximately four hours, and there is no bioaccumulation (buildup in the body over time). A few rare incidents have occurred where a person ingested a large quantity of propylene glycol and suffered some liver and neurological effects as a result, but these were short-lived and subsided once the material was metabolized and excreted.

http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/curl-products/curlchemist...

aye, we used to make a "Party Punch" w/it called "Green Gawdamn"

Darisshish

Propylene Glycol is approved by Health Canada for use in various forms in Canada. These include items injected, applied topically, and inhaled. Products with Propylene Glycol can be found in various common items around your house. A few examples include: Pharmaceuticals - Oral, injectable and topical formulations Beauty products including makeup, mousse, shampoo, bubble bath, after shave, and deodorant baby wipes Pet food Asthma inhalers When propylene glycol is injected, it is metabolized in the human body into pyruvic acid (a normal part of the glucose-metabolism process, readily converted to energy), acetic acid (handled by ethanol-metabolism), lactic acid (a normal acid generally abundant during digestion) [9] , and propionaldehyde. Because of its low chronic oral toxicity, propylene glycol was classified by the U. S. Food and Drug Administration as "generally recognized as safe" (GRAS) for use as a direct food additive.

"With a view to determining the safety of employing the vapors of propylene glycol and triethylene glycol in atmospheres inhabited by human beings, monkeys and rats were exposed continuously to high concentrations of these vapors for periods of 12 to 18 months. Equal numbers of control animals were maintained under physically similar conditions. Long term tests of the effects on ingesting triethylene glycol were also carried out. The doses administered represented 50 to 700 times the amount of glycol the animal could absorb by breathing air saturated with the glycol.

Comparative observations on the growth rates, blood counts, urine examinations, kidney function tests, fertility and general condition of the test and control groups, exhibited no essential differences between them with the exception that the rats in the glycol atmospheres exhibited consistently higher weight gains. Some drying of the skin of the monkeys' faces occurred after several months continuous exposure to a heavy fog of triethylene glycol. However, when the vapor concentration was maintained just below saturation by means of the glycostat this effect did not occur.

Examination at autopsy likewise failed to reveal any differences between the animals kept in glycolized air and those living in the ordinary room atmosphere. Extensive histological study of the lungs was made to ascertain whether the glycol had produced any generalized or local irritation. None was found. The kidneys, liver, spleen and bone marrow also were normal.

The results of these experiments in conjunction with the absence of any observed ill effects in patients exposed to both triethylene glycol and propylene glycol vapors for months at a time, provide assurance that air containing these vapors in amounts up to the saturation point is completely harmless.

http://www.canadavapes.com/health/propylene-glycol-safety.html

havin breakfast now...1/2 a pak of Marlboros and a pot of Black...yummy

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