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Permalink Reply by Purewords on December 17, 2014 at 1:40pm

I would really enjoy some responses from those who have read this all the way through.  As with most information acquired in this realm, there is a % of disinfo that must be excised to get at the truths.  I am curious to know - what resonates with you in particular?  What do you FEEL is true and what do you believe has been relayed to trip you up?  I am particularly interested in the Harvest mentioned - I see a contradiction in the discourse regarding that, which may be intentional.

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Permalink Reply by Tara on December 17, 2014 at 3:51pm

Hmm... I've gotten through his first session and there's major issues already that I've seen in this supposed Illuminati insiders interview back in 2009.

Firstly he says... "San Francisco and Damascus, will be uninhabitable by the end of 2010, possibly even sooner." Ok... and it's 2014 and those cities are still bustling. And he goes on by stating... "There will be dramatic changes to your climate and weather conditions over the next few years, as the time of the Great Harvest approaches. You will see windspeeds surpassing 300 miles per hour at times. There will be raging tsunamis and widespread devastation; and a solar emission in late 2009 early 2010 that will cause major melting of the ice caps, and subsequent drastic rise in sea levels, leaving many (international) metropolitan areas underwater." HUH???

I think the person interviewed is full of excrement. That's just my opinion.

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Permalink Reply by Darrell Rowlands on December 17, 2014 at 4:22pm

Quoted from the discussion:

ATS: It is my understanding that all souls must eventually choose the positive path to unite with the infinite creator. If this is true, what is the justification of choosing the negative path now, for your people and us?

HH: An astute question. Yes, all Souls eventually learn that Positive is the pathway which leads Home. But whilst incarnating in the 3rd Density, Negativity is still an important tool in your learning process. It teaches you "other than". As I said earlier, it is up to you how you use the tools we have given you. Do you respond to Negativity with more Negativity? Has fighting fire with fire ever worked for you? Or do you choose to see the Negativity as the tool that it is, and recognize that it is offering you an opportunity? I will honour your Free Will to think and discover for yourself what that opportunity is.

What resonates with me is when he says "other than," he means that apophatic learning, i.e. learning what something is by learning what it is not, is essential in this life.  We have learned about what is good and just and true, by observing and recognizing the evil, injustice, and lies around us.   Moreover as lovers of truth and freedom we have all had to make introspective observations and a few changes in our lives in the process of our waking up, to align ourselves more with natural law and goodness.  Once you realize something you have been doing was wrong, you try to make a change to correct it.  Hidden Hand states that the primary reason we're here in this 3rd Dimension world is to work on ourselves.  I agree with him.

  But what I still find troubling is the fact that with all the Negativity that his kind (the Lucifer Soul Group) has brought here, purportedly as a catalyst to teach us and wake us up, our world seems to be approaching another period of world war; for example, relations between citizens and police are rapidly deteriorating worldwide.    Many of us are now preparing for armed conflict against the police, and for good reason.  Very soon, I do not think we will have any choice BUT to fight fire with fire.  I am not, for example, aware of any loving, virtuous, 51%-positive sort of way of stopping a group of badge-wearing enemies that dare intrude upon our places of residence in, say, a 4:00 AM no-knock raid, where our lives and the lives of our loved ones are being threatened.  In that case we would have to fight.  It won't do any good to run out and try to hug the pigs and tell them you have unconditional love for them, and that they know not what they do.   All they know is order-following, brutality, killing, confiscating, takedowns, restraints, pressure points, and paperwork.  Those are not human qualities, but those of unlovable monsters.  Anyway, would love to hear others' thoughts on Hidden Hand as well. 

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Permalink Reply by Purewords on December 17, 2014 at 4:51pm

If you read the piece in its entirety he states himself that any information concerning events and dates will be deliberately false to undermine the truth given elsewhere and to discredit the truth bearer - it is a deliberate test of the individual to develop personal truth in the face of societal disbelief- with that said - those who have given up on reading the whole thing you may want to read the whole piece before full judgement.  Attaining truth in this world is grasping threads that resonate in order to incorporate them into a personal tapestry.

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Permalink Reply by Tara on December 17, 2014 at 8:37pm

That is fair enough Purewords. One thing that I have taken from the piece is that the elite like to pump themselves up because they're egomaniacal and like to make themselves seem godly in the eyes of the common man/woman, when in fact they are still human who get humanly diseases and eventually end up 6 feet under too. Don't get me wrong... I still agree that all the important answers we seek lie within and to HELL with religion. "Jesus is just alright" ;)

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