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Permalink Reply by Quil on June 5, 2010 at 7:27pm

Keisha said:

ive found everyone on this site to be of every faith because whenever religion comes up people start fighting.

i kind of hav my own beliefs and not completed supportive of organized religion but faith in a good god idk exactly what to believe though

well me lady i thank you for your imput...maybe this post may be to early to put my veiw out to the "public" yet first i would like to put some history from what one researcher has put out that i have out in one of my "facebook" groups:
scrowl down and there will be six entries to read:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=13908817917&v=app_2373072...!/topic.php?uid=13908817917&topic=4199

once one has finished what was put foreward then one would have to go into "commerce" and the dif between "what is in the "Private" and what is shown in the Public....in commerce all that is put in the public is "copyrighted" and all that stays in the private need not be copyrighted . hence the bible's even King James (cause i have a 1953 version) as well does the book of mormon , and well the Koran . here is a good sight to visit that makes fun of such books lol...:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/1.html
now like i said what is in the private will not need copyrighted in todays "world of commerce" and the book that is not copyrighted and there are millions out there is the freemasons lodge book. i have 1956,1971, and 1991 versions of the book and because it is conserning the "code of secrety" and is not for the "general public" to decipher or find out about....lol

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Permalink Reply by illuminated-dj on June 5, 2010 at 10:10pm

Peace is my religion and the world is my country.people can believe whatever they want as long as they dont cause physical harm to other or try to force their religion down other peoples throats.we're all people.and we're all ONE!

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Permalink Reply by Quil on June 6, 2010 at 5:11pm

Yahya said:

Hi Quil, welcome to the site. As Keisha said, there are people here of different faiths and atheists too; but the majority are of the Christian faith. The purpose of the site is to share information regarding the New World Order and to find common ground relating to this struggle. Religion or faith is often discussed with many differing points of view and most of us try to avoid finding difference or poking fun at others beliefs- so it may be that this link:

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/1.html

is likely to cause offense to some members. However freedom of expression is an ideal here but issues which are likely to cause friction are best avoided, as most people here feel that it distracts from the purpose of the site, namely fighting the common enemy which is the NWO.

Peace

well maybe my wording in how i presented the skeptics site was done in bad taste ...yet one thing we all need to comprehend is "religion" has alot to do with NWO: http://inpursuitofhappiness.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/the-trinity-of...
therefore in order to comprehend the NWO one has to research "re-ligion" and the origions of the word to really comprehend (and the reason i use the word comprehend is because in the "courts of commerce" the word "understand" refers to standing under the bench or "legals that rule the court rooms and i stand under no one)...and yes we all are one and we as a collective need to "unite" in order to beat this dictatorship that we live under today....

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Permalink Reply by fireguy on June 6, 2010 at 10:28pm

Basically it is non of anyones business but...

This pretty much sums it up for me as a "Christ following, Jesus Freak"since 1985.
And glad to say so, I might add.

Romans 1:16
I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.

Christ the Wisdom and Power of God

1 Corinthians 1:18-25

18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written:

"I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."

20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22 Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24 but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength.

Romans 1:16
I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.

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Permalink Reply by Quil on June 7, 2010 at 12:22am

well the intrest this subject is bringing forth i'm glad to see. I will not get into "Gods Books" per say because that is not the mess i want to put accross nor am i intrested in any copyrighted material. but to each either own i guess....
reminds me of when i was a Class 1 instructor and there was 60 plus oversized loads to move a crane. Myself and a student of mine were moving part of the spine of the crane and when we were strapping the load down a driver from another company that was in his 60's and he had been driveing for 30 plus year came to my student when i was doing some other work. Told the student to put a twist in the strap so it would make the strap stronger in holding the load. Well the student come to me and asked if that was true so i told my student to let me twist his neck and then he could tell me if his neck was stronger or not. The 60 yr old driver because of his tunnel vision and conditioning for the 30 or so yrs of driving could not or would not look at anything other then what he was conditioned to believe what was right. Yep it was ok to twist a strap while securing a load according to DOT , yet it was not recommended because of makeing the straps weaker. The only reasons that it was acceptable was so that when driveing down the road the straps wouldnt flap in the wind if they were not tightened down enough..
now because of my grandmother being born around 1889 over here in the north west of the americas , she had the oppertunity to listen to what her forefathers past to her and they were around well before the "colonizing" of the north west. They were born in the early and late 1700's. so every now and again because of some of my recollection every now and again i will put down what was passed on to myself.
First one thing i would like to put out to everyone that reads what i put here is; How does one filter what one hears outside one's self? Of course one would filter though Ones innerself and decide weither or not one would "accept" or "not accept" right?....Therefore before "god" is of the universe , each and every individual one of us would have to accept on our own terms right? Did anyone ever ask themselves where the word "god" came from? To me it seems that every one in todays world now accepts "god" because they read it in some "book". His story must be the truth because that is "just the way it is" right? learnt behavior "conditioning" nothing more nothing less (no different then that truck driver that i first put down).http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=13908817917&v=app_2373072...!/topic.php?uid=13908817917&topic=4288 Did everyone know that "Engish" did not come from "england" but accually came from people who were called Frisian or anglo frisian and the elite (family) killed them off and only the elite were aloud to speak the language for 100 to 150 yrs until they pefected it and then gave it to the public.
did this group also know that the Gregorian did not come into play until around 1583 and that it was named after Pope Gregory VII (christian suprizing huh) but what about 1492? cause surely that was a great event of the americas was it not?....one thing about the courts of so called "law" if one only brings in circumstantual evidence it has to be backed by another so called evidence, so in order for one to use 1492 (gregorian) would it not have to be backed by either the Julian or Roman or myan....why does it not?....maybe it was it just wasnt recorded huh?....His story again lol......
if everyone wants to look for the truth then everyone has to be open to all intel that comes forward , cause if they only want to be "conditioned" and nothing more . then why start groups like this one.
i'll put more intel down later but for now i will just put out what i have done until i see where this goes.....

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Permalink Reply by fireguy on June 7, 2010 at 12:44am

Hey dude you asked the question, people answered. Not here to argue against your beliefs but you obviously are fishing for something.

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Permalink Reply by Quil on June 7, 2010 at 1:11am

fireguy said:

Hey dude you asked the question, people answered. Not here to argue against your beliefs but you obviously are fishing for something.

mmm.... welll maybe using the right words some times i find hard to put down ...i am not disputing the fact of what others views are i am just saying as far as i myself see things i am not going into the meat of the context of what books are out there according to "god" that is all...Fishing for something?....I guess one could say yes , but what i am tring to do is get where all are according to "god" and believes ...for myself i dont follow anything but go on what i myself feel to be the truth....I also see that some of the sites i put down dont accually go to the dif topic's of my facebook group so people from this group will find it hard to truely follow what i am saying unless i guess i either fully write down what i put in my group or people in this group would have to be part of facebook as well to get to the topic pages i put down i guess unless someone knows differently and could pass on to myself on how to get to the topic on facebook....

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Permalink Reply by fireguy on June 7, 2010 at 3:40pm

So much good music and so little time. Thanks KLC.

POD
Kutless
Le Crea
Skillet
12 Stones
Stryper
Son's of Day
Pillar
Could go on for days.

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Permalink Reply by humantshirts on June 25, 2010 at 5:55am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZkqN6fyjis
KLC said:

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Permalink Reply by humantshirts on June 25, 2010 at 5:56am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZkqN6fyjis

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Permalink Reply by Scott Roloff on August 14, 2010 at 1:48am

In response to the skeptics annotated bible...

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/1.html

I just have to add...

Every day people read books and watch movies and they don't demand their stories to be factual. People read for pleasure, to receive a message, or both. These days NWO crap constantly fills our literature with messages. But why do people demand historical and factual accuracy from the Bible? Who's rule is that? The Genesis passage being made fun of by the link above is filled with some amazing literary techniques that deliver a rich combination of messages. Can we appreciate this writing for its message alone? Take a brief look at that first chapter of Genesis...

Introduction and Summary: God creates heaven & earth

Day 1
God Separates Light & Darkness
Concludes this day and each following day by stating, "There was Evening & Morning"

Day 2
God Separates water from water or namely the Oceans & Sky

Day 3
God Separates Dry Ground & Water. Also, "Made Plants bearing seeds and fruit."

Day 4
God Separates Sun & Moon (Now draw a line from day four to day one. These days are linked.)

Day 5
Separates the Creatures both Flying & Swimming. (Now draw a line from day 5 to day 2. Notice the link?)

Day 6
Created the land creatures and man with dominion. Male & Female "Be fruitful and multiply" (Finally, draw a line from day 6 to day 3. Do you see the link again?)

Days 1-3 and 4-6 mirror each other. Each day ends with a division of the evening and the morning. All of the days contain the repeated theme of "Separation". While it isn't stated yet this will lead to the telling of the ultimate separation. The separation that occurs between God and Man. From there the Bible is about the struggle of reconciliation between God and Man. While it is comprised of many books and many different authors over a tremendous span of time, this theme of God-Man Separation and path to Reconciliation remains constant.

Even if you hate organized religion, as do I, I encourage you to admire the art and beauty built into the Bible. The Bible has been mis-used over and over to control people, but does that mean we should scorn it? I'd hate for us to "throw the baby out with the bath water" in this case.

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