Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs fight for who releases who's earning sheet data for 2009 first

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704675104575001342938...

Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs Group Inc. have taken their longtime cat-and-mouse game to a new level: jockeying over when to release their earnings reports for 2009.

The contest might look petty, but there is plenty at stake. Each is hoping to better control the public perceptions of their respective releases. Goldman is trying to deflect some attention from its bonus pool and highlight the differences between its highly profitable year and Morgan's lackluster results. Morgan, meanwhile, would prefer to avoid comparisons.

The story picks up in late December, when Morgan Stanley slated its earnings announcement for Jan. 21. A strange thing happened a few weeks later. Goldman announced its own plans to release its year-end earnings. The date: Jan. 21.

The move turned heads on Wall Street. Firms typically pick different days to report so analysts have more time to digest the data. In fact, Goldman and Morgan have reported on the same day only a handful of times during the past 10 years. Over the past few years, Goldman has typically reported a week or so before Morgan.

The change was no accident, according to people close to Goldman.

Analysts are predicting Morgan Stanley will post a profit of $526 million in the fourth quarter as it grapples with fallout from the mortgage crisis.

Goldman is having one of its best years in history. Analysts polled by Thomson Reuters expect the firm to post a profit nearly six times that of Morgan, or about $2.9 billion.

Goldman's date-change agitated people inside Morgan Stanley, according to people familiar with the matter. In a countermove, Morgan said on Jan. 8 it was bumping up its call one day, to Wednesday, Jan. 20.

Morgan Stanley said it moved the announcement not to distance itself from Goldman. Rather, it needed to accommodate the schedule of James Gorman, its incoming chief executive, a spokeswoman said, who wasn't available on Jan. 21.

Typically earnings calls are handling by the chief financial officer, but Mr. Gorman was keen to participate in his first call as chief executive, said the spokeswoman. Morgan wouldn't comment on Mr. Gorman's schedule on Jan. 21.

This isn't the first time Goldman has been caught in a hubbub over earnings announcements. Firms that are first out of the gate with strong earnings sometimes get a nice stock bump, as Goldman did in the first quarter of 2006, when its earnings beat analyst expectations by more than 50%.

A day later, Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. reported its earnings, but in beating analyst expectations by just 15%, failed to move investors. Its stock actually sank that day.

Lehman changed its strategy the next quarter, moving its earnings date at the last minute so that it could report ahead of Goldman. The move was for naught, however. Lehman's stock sank anyway.

Views: 41

Reply to This

"Destroying the New World Order"

TOP CONTENT THIS WEEK

THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE SITE!

mobile page

12160.info/m

12160 Administrators

 

Latest Activity

tjdavis posted a video

33rd degree knowledge: This was taught ONLY to a select few.

This 33rd degree knowledge is exclusively reserved for the chosen elite.Want to work 1-1 with me and my team to create your reality? APPLY HERE: https://go.r...
1 hour ago
tjdavis posted a photo
6 hours ago
cheeki kea commented on Parrhesia's photo
21 hours ago
tjdavis posted a video

Distorted - Official Trailer - 2018 Thriller Movie HD

Subscribe to Voltage Pictures for all our latest releases: http://bit.ly/1kjjbOyDistortedLauren Curran and her husband Russell move into The Pinnacle, a slee...
yesterday
cheeki kea commented on Doc Vega's blog post Department of Justice Crumbling Under the Pending Occupation by the Trump Administration!
"And it's about time we had some honest and balanced action. Here's what AI images dreamed…"
Tuesday
Doc Vega posted blog posts
Monday
Doc Vega posted a photo

main-qimg-6a080d2afce4004157ca1346e8c686c8

Two sodomites frolicking under the sheets as the nation burns!
Monday
cheeki kea posted a video

Neil Oliver STUNNED as Dutch Official Reveals Covid-19 Was 'MILITARY Operation' in SHOCK Admission

Neil Oliver reacts after a top Dutch government official has admitted 'Covid' was a military operation.#gbnews #uknews #covid #coronavirus #covid19 Keep up t...
Sunday
tjdavis posted blog posts
Sunday
tjdavis commented on tjdavis's video
Sunday
tjdavis posted videos
Sunday
tjdavis posted photos
Sunday
Doc Vega posted blog posts
Saturday
Doc Vega commented on Doc Vega's blog post What Will happen When Robot Brides Replace Human Marriage?
"Less Prone thanks for your support Buddy! "
Nov 22
Less Prone favorited tjdavis's video
Nov 21
Less Prone posted a photo

Social Engineering 101

That's how it goes.
Nov 21
Doc Vega posted a blog post

A Prelude to WW III ? It Seems There We Are Trailblazing Idiocy into More Blood and Destruction!

They're rolling out the 25th Amendment trying to stop Joe Biden from insanely thrusting the US in a…See More
Nov 21
Less Prone posted a video

Chris Langan - The Interview THEY Didn't Want You To See - CTMU [Full Version; Timestamps]

DW Description: Chris Langan is known to have the highest IQ in the world, somewhere between 195 and 210. To give you an idea of what this means, the average...
Nov 20
Doc Vega posted a blog post

RFK Jr. Appoinment Rocks the World of the Federal Health Agncies and The Big Pharma Profits!

The Appointment by Trump as Secretary of HHS has sent shockwaves through the federal government…See More
Nov 19
tjdavis posted a video

Somewhere in California.

Tom Waites and Iggy Pop meet in a midnight diner in Jim Jarmusch's 2003 film Coffee and Cigarettes.
Nov 19

© 2024   Created by truth.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service

content and site copyright 12160.info 2007-2019 - all rights reserved. unless otherwise noted