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Permalink Reply by JUST DEFIANCE on April 13, 2014 at 12:20am

More thoughts about Bundy's....,

IF....?   America's Warriors ARE Manning-Up and heading for a showdown at the OK Corr - OOP? - at the Bundy Ranch, one would hope, and expect that across the nation, all of them are aware of every update in news and fed's movements, etc.

But critically, all have to be aware of their own Mobs

-where each is, where they're heading, etc.

NEVER trust the authorities, aye?

Thereforrrre... one of the worst mistakes the Militia can do, is to all rush to Bundys.

Might be exactly what the fed corp want?

If..., they had anything to do with 9/11, then with Iraq, and the other atrocities, yep, not in the US, but still inhumane actions, do any of you think they'd hesitate from doing something similar to Americans?

What better way to reduce internal resistance, but by luring ALL the eager AND INEXPERIENCED Militia into one remote place, aka Bundys, then - BOOM BOOM, or, one suitably engineered nuke?

Don't let your enthusiasm for a shoot-up against the man, get control of your Reasoned Thinking, Dudes.

Establish contact across the nation, and stay where they are least likely to drop something on you.  Actually, small Troupes are probably best located in cities, amongst the throng, as a 'defense shield'. [Sorry, Throng?]

Some, should be near the Bundy area, in case of a renewed assault by the feds, plus any National Guard, which they're probably talking to.

Just don't "put all your eggs in one basket", for the man to drop.

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Permalink Reply by Deep Space on April 13, 2014 at 12:24am

Of course the terrorist federal government would LOVE to slaughter a few thousand American patriots & steal the guy's land BUT it would wake up millions of sleeping sheep in the proccess.

Something they definitely do *NOT* want!

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Permalink Reply by JUST DEFIANCE on April 13, 2014 at 12:44am

Sure about that?

These [DC corp] maniacs also have ideas about 'decimation'. 'GLOBAL'.

No reason they wouldn't make a scene to set it all off, now.

Saving face means a lot to them, what with the financial and cultural debacles in the EU, Ukraine, the 'Arab Spring', and them probably assessing fairly accurately and thus knowing they [the zionist elite] are in the shit, and in deep.

All the increasingly popular Dissent to their ideals -

-religion to Atheism -

-break-down of nation states,

-EU's austerity,

-exposures of their evil religious cults [pedophile priesthood/s], and on...,

-Catholic church, aka the Vatican bank heading for bankruptcy, and possibly,

-with the US dollar tanked,

-the USA on the skids, and

-Russia and China [albe-they basically of the same elitist cabal/s] unhooking from the dollar as global standard, and

-the renminbi and/or ruble becoming the new global benchmark/s,

-the old order are being exposed as being the darkest force,

panic and thus bad, frantic 'fuck it all!' decisions become the way.

Dunno... just doing the Math.

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Permalink Reply by Deep Space on April 13, 2014 at 12:46am

Just going by their own actions. They backed down.

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Permalink Reply by JUST DEFIANCE on April 13, 2014 at 12:47am

Don't you know nothing about 'tactics'?

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Permalink Reply by Deep Space on April 13, 2014 at 12:51am

I know that the single most thing that the powers that shouldn't be, fear most, is an Awakened populace.

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Permalink Reply by Deep Space on April 13, 2014 at 1:19am

The ants still outnumber the grasshoppers...
Just a matter of realizing that.

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Permalink Reply by Petunia Skrebbles on April 13, 2014 at 4:30am

I am sorry, but these PTB are total and obsessive control freaks.   Think about it, they war game everything to make sure absolutely nothing goes wrong.  So, this was not a lead up to anything so far.  It was the real thing, and how can we tell?

1.  They sent in 200 armed agents.  They NEVER do that when they are war gaming.  

2.   They slaughtered the mans cattle, then buried it.  instead of confiscating it and selling it for the repayment of the fine, which tells you right there, this was not about the fine, it was about "CONTROL".  They were trying to see just how far they had to go to get that group of people under control.  

3.    Up til McGiver (?) the feds had chased every single rancher off the land to where McGiver was the last rancher standing.   How is that just a game and their leaving shows our hand is strengthening, and NOT weakening.

4.    This day that they left his ranch,  the Texas Militia was being called up and told to get ready to move out to this ranch.  And shortly after those 12,000 militia were called out, the BLM moved out totally.   Oathkeepers were also called out and several other militias were on the move and that number was 5000.   I think this all showed us strengthening and coming together and the PTB did not expect that, given our previous behavior of sitting on our asses and doing nothing when the most egregious acts were done to us by our government.

5.    A BLM worker was interviewed and filmed on a video and said that their people who were aiding the gov in the removal of the cattle, were becoming very very uncomfortable with what they were seeing.  So, there was a reaction by those managing the workers.  

I think you have completely misread this whole thing.   I have been following all of this for 12  years and this is the  very first time that you could tell we were serious as a heart attack.  The rancher gave a speech at a local board meeting and he said he was doing this for more than just his ranch, he was doing this for the nation, since the move for land grabbing was becoming worse and someone had to take a stand and that is why he did.  He said he was willing to die fighting them on this issue.  I believed him.  He was definitely NOT a politician with a glib tongue.

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Permalink Reply by JUST DEFIANCE on April 13, 2014 at 1:25am

Exactly. So, will they wait for the Masses to get properly ORGANIZED, or take them out before it's gained a momentum much larger and of it's own?

Another thought is..., maybe this is all a set-up, and, a Militia Revolt, nationwide, is actually what the fed are trying to incite?

Anything is possible from the cabal.

They too hate the mass-apathy, and are totally disgusted with the world's people being so disorganized and not united, even though the cabal scum made them so themselves, over centuries/millennia.

The 800 year war between the masons and the catholics has been over the domination of the planet's land and resources.

As much as I am at war against the catholics and all judaic cults, inc., masons catholics, proddies, and zion et al, the micks recognize land laws [and 'usury'] are bad-wrong, and the masons control them [via banking blackmail] and the most land, in the west, at least.

So, while I despise the false god, false messianic cults inc., the Vatican, we have to recognize that Machiavellianism lives, strong, in all of them.

Each, of course, holds like blind fools to them being the correct ones [a la, 'the chosen tribe'], and maybe none of them are correct?

But, refusing to 'side' with any of the powers of now, I am ready to accept and even concede that some, perhaps the f---ing micks, a la the Vatican, do want true Democracy, aka via something like a Militia in the most armed nation - USA - to take it up to them, so something can be begun.

Maybe the cabal will NOT bomb the Militia back to the stone age?

But NEVER TRUST THEM!

And, "always assume the worst, that way, anything else is good news!"

The Populace ARE awake now...., so..., I'd estimate, there's no going back.

Our, the Peoples' biggest danger now, is themselves. thinking too short term "YAY! WE WON!" bullshit. "Let's get pissed, fall over and be sitting ducks! YAY!"

Ka-BOOM!

Get figures on how big across the nation the Militia and party-goers both heading to Nevada and just getting stoned for joy are, then organize where and how to sustain them, peacefully.

Days? Weeks? How long will, could any Movement last, or need to last?

Will the feds talk true, about where-to from here?

Are they, or, after a sustained Defiance [COPYRIGHT! lol], prepared to acknowledge the Rectitude - if any - in the Movement, without taking up arms to STOMP them?

Will the Militia grow so big as to be able to demand Reforms?

BIG Issues! If this grows, someone, but, EVERYONE, has to make sure they KNOW what they're Standing Up for!

True Law!

As in "the peoples' worst enemy is themselves", so it is that they are their own worst, if they align themselves with bullshit, MORE bullshit ideals and laws.

They'll be painted down as terrorists, and then out come the micro-nukes.

Fun with a gun, YabbadabbaDOO! 'Til the enemy come back with bigger guns.

I'm saying, the danger is seeing it as more thoughtless larrikan-ism, 'yobbos on the loose', than possibly the most serious affair....

Could be the best news out of the US, or the worst....

Every person has to choose maturity.

Unless I'm just dreaming all this shit?

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Permalink Reply by Deep Space on April 13, 2014 at 1:48am

I don't think this was a set-up. I think they really wanted to steal this guy's land.

Permalink Reply by JUST DEFIANCE on April 13, 2014 at 1:56am

Thanks about 'the dream'.

"...a test of our ALERT SYSTEM. we all failed!"

Have you/we/us?

Sure, a test.  But 'fail' doesn't apply til it's over.

Yep - "... record every licence plate in and out of the area, phone calls, texts, emails, ect. look at.."

But how many across the US, and other nations, are thinking hard now about the idea, who are not yet seen to be onside or ready to get active with any growth of the Militia?

Permalink Reply by Petunia Skrebbles on April 13, 2014 at 4:47am

Hahaha, you are joking right?  We did anything but fail!  When his son got arrested for trying to stop the BLM from killing their cattle, is when like one big shot, all the militias went into action.

1.  First day, 5,000  militia called up immediately and responded positively.  Remember, these guys probably all work, have families and they responded in the affirmative.

2.  2nd day, oathkeepers get called up and they responded positively.  same with another militia, small but responsive.

3.  3rd day,  12,000 members of the Texas militia gets called out and they responded positively.   Already we are at over 17,000 armed militia responding as our founding fathers envisioned them doing when they put them in the Constitution.   I believe that, plus the negative reaction by those working for BLM about what they were doing,  is what made them call it all off.   They were definitely not prepared for such a quick and organized reaction. 

I would not  Judge this as a weakness at this point.  WHAT TO WATCH OUT FOR.  Watch out for those that recommend we INITIATE VIOLENCE AND ATTACK SOMEONE "ILLEGALLY", SINCE THAT IS ALL THEY NEED FOR MARTIAL LAW AND DIVIDING THE COUNTRY AGAIN, AND GUN CONFISCATION.  WE  NEED AND MUST HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE SHEEP ON OUR SIDE and the surveys done show that this rancher had a huge majority of Americans on his side.   300 million people is no small thing to sneeze at and the big guys know it.

Also remember,  they are good at what they do becausee they are "AFRAID" of us  and I do mean afraid of our sheer numbers, they can't handle them.  As for nukes, forget it.   Nukes have been dismantled and are  non operational as we are finding out.  Someone has pulled the plug on them, as evidenced by the missle that went haywire in LA when they tried to do a bogus false flag "SUITCASE NUKE ATTACK" and the nuke sidewind all over the place and fell into the ocean.   That is why no bogus nuke attacks hve happened.

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