THE GOOD GUYS ARE NOT COMING TO SAVE US

(OP NOTE:) Thought this was relevant for any who thinks some super hero is coming to rectify this evil earth. Sorry, Not happening, nor is some cloud guy going to float down and take all the "Good" souls back to a cloud somewhere, Sorry, your insanely disillusioned if you think that fantasy will ever come in to play as well. There will be no super politician either. I can tell you who can & MUST do it ..........US.....We are the ones we have been waiting for here, just deplorable 90% just hasn't realized this yet. WE are going to have to turn this illegal government around, WE are the one's who will have to eliminate the evil & the corrupt. WE are the ones who have to clean out this immoral and illicit system of the Bankster Regime. WE are the ones who need to eliminate the FED, WE are the ones who will have to lead this Country back to its 1776 root's of Justice & Liberty!!
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A lot of Americans know that the US government is out of control. Anyone who has cared enough to study the US Constitution even a little knows this. Still, very few of these people are taking any significant action, and largely because of one error: They are waiting for “the good guys” to show up and fix things.

Some think that certain groups of politicians will pull it together and fix things, or that onemagnificent politician will ride in to fix things. Others think that certain members of the military will step in and slap the politicians back into line. And, I’m sure there are other variations.

There are several problems with this. I’ll start with the small issues:

  1. It doesn’t happen. A lot of good people have latched on to one grand possibility after another, waiting for a good guy to save the day, and it just doesn’t happen. Thousands of hours of reading, writing and waiting are burned with each new “great light” who comes along with a promise to run the system in the “right” way, and give us liberty and truth. (Or whatever.) Lots of decent folks grab on to one pleasant dream after another, only to end up right back where they started… but poorer in time, energy and finances.
  2. Hope is a scam. It’s a dream of someday, somehow, getting something for nothing. People who hope do not act – they wait for other people to act. Hope is a tool to neuter a natural opposition: they sit and hope, and never act against you. Even the biblical meaning of hope is something more like expectation (or sometimes waiting) than the modern use of hope.
  3. Petitioning an abuser for compassion. The “good guys” are considered to be a few people inside the abusive government. But if the good guys were really good, wouldn’t they have dissociated themselves with an abuser some time ago? By pleading for the good guys to rise up, people are asking one sub-group of the abusers to save them from the rest of the abusers. However, they all work for the same operation; they all get paid out of the same offices; according to the same rulebook. And if the good guys are so willing to turn against their employers, why would they have waited until now?
  4. Movies. We all grew up in the company of movie heroes who rode in at the last minute to save the noble victims. From John Wayne to Star Trek to Bruce Willis, the story line differs little. These are pleasant stories, of course, but cinema is not reality, and hoping for it to become reality is something that we should get over prior to adulthood.

But, as I say, those are the smaller issues. Let’s move on to the serious ones.

The Magic System

A lot of Americans believe that the American “Founders” created a system that automatically fixes itself. They talk about the “balance of powers,” and think that it will always save them from a tyrant. The balanced powers of the US Constitution, however, were trashed within fifteen years and doubly-trashed just a century ago.

In the Constitution, the states balanced the power of the national government (the one now in Washington, DC.) Not only did the states control half of the legislature, but they decided if and how they would implement the edicts of the national government. And that included deciding whether a law was constitutional or not.

This changed in 1803 with the Marbury v. Madison ruling. This ruling – taught as a work of genius in American schools – was a fraud against the US Constitution. In it, the Supreme Court held that they understood the Constitution better than James Madison, the man who wrote it!

But worse than even this, they held – with absolutely no basis – that it was they who would decide what was constitutional or not. The states were tossed aside. Even the sitting President of the United States, Thomas Jefferson, called it “a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy.”

Marbury’s Judicial review (the Supremes ruling on constitutionality) merely involves one branch of the national government providing a check on the other branches of the national government. After Marbury, no one could check the national government.

Washington DC was unleashed with Marbury v. Madison. What made it almighty was the 17th Amendment of 1913, which took the powers of the states and transferred them to Washington, by mandating the popular election of senators.

With senators being elected directly by the populace, the states were cut-out of the equation. In their place, political parties gained massive power, and nearly all power was consolidated in the city of Washington.

And so it is today. Washington is an unfettered beast. The system will NOT fix itself; the mechanisms to do that were lost a long time ago.

The Easy Way Out

Standing up against a beast like Washington DC is scary, to be sure. Understandably, not many people want to do such a thing. But if the beast is abusing you, what other choice do you have? You can certainly avoid or evade the beast, but we all know that the beast hurts people it catches avoiding it, so the risk of doing this isn’t zero either.

So, what’s a person to do? They hate their abuse, but outright disobedience would be scary. Unfortunately, many people have come up with a third option: Get someone else to do it for you.

Lots of writers have done this, for example: Write flamboyantly about the abuses people face and stir them to “rise up against the power.” Fairly seldom does the writer take big risks himself – he just stirs up others to do the scary stuff.

Something very similar happens to basically moral people who don’t want to risk pain and suffering: they imagine good guys riding in to save them.

But, as I say, these are genuinely decent people, and they are willing to take smaller risks to help the good guys: They will spend time and money promoting them, and they will even accept name-calling in many cases. They just don’t want to become full-blown rebels and outcasts.

The result of this is predictable: abuse by the political class. If the politicians show them a viable possibility every election cycle, they’ll keep voting their way forever… and the hero never really has to show up.

The Sad Truth

Let’s just say it:

No one is going to ride in and save you.

If you want things to get better, then YOU will have to make them better. YOU will have to stand up and take the arrows, yourself. Liberty, at this stage of human development, requires risk and pain.

 

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I agree that "the good guys are not coming to save us" is true.

"The balanced powers of the US Constitution" is also true, but the real question is "What is the Balance of Power"?

A lot of people think it is the three branches, plus that they were each given constitutinal remedy to stop usurpations of their assigned duties (powers) and treason. That is true, but it is only ONE of the balances. The states are another balance of power - and that cannot ever be taken away from the states - each states legislature can only renege from doing is duties. This says so:

Article VI, Clause 2 of the US Constitution: “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”

Article VI, Clause 2 makes it clear that everything and those under the authority of the US must follow the US Constitution. They are lawfully bound to do so.

Because "All states are guaranteed a Republican form of government" and the federal govs powers are listed and not allowed any not listed (becomes usurpation) Marbury v. Madison was unlawful.

Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist, No. 33: “If a number of political societies enter into a larger political society, the laws which the latter may enact, pursuant to the powers intrusted [sic] to it by its constitution, must necessarily be supreme over those societies and the individuals of whom they are composed…. But it will not follow from this doctrine that acts of the larger society which are not pursuant to its constitutional powers, but which are invasions of the residuary authorities of the smaller societies, will become the supreme law of the land. These will be merely acts of usurpation, and will deserve to be treated as such.”

We are all aware that much that is unlawful has been presented as "law" and enforced by agencies, etc that are following and implementing unlawful orders making them criminals for doing so. What most do not realize that those involved in every single step in the creation of that unlawful act are also made criminals. It is also treason, read "Dare Call It Treason" by Vieira if you do not understand why that is so - it is a fairly clear roadmap of why it is treason.

Showing that our forefathers designed/recognized this:

Alexander Hamilton: “Until the people have, by some solemn and authoritative act, annulled or changed the established form, it is binding upon themselves collectively, as well as individually; and no presumption, or even knowledge, of their sentiments, can warrant their representatives in a departure from it, prior to such an act.”

Thomas Jefferson: “The government created by this compact (the Constitution) was not made the exclusive or final judge of the extent of the powers delegated to itself; since that would have made its discretion, and not the Constitution, the measure of its powers; but that, as in all other cases of compact among powers having no common judge, each party (the people of each state) has an equal right to judge for itself, as well of infractions as of the mode and measure of redress.”

"Each State, in ratifying the Constitution, is considered as a sovereign body, independent of all others, and only to be bound by its own voluntary act. In this relation, then, the new Constitution will, if established, be a FEDERAL, and not a NATIONAL constitution." Madison, Federalist 39

Jefferson: "The several States composing, the United States of America, are not united on the principle of unlimited submission to their general government; but that, by a compact under the style and title of a Constitution for the United States, and of amendments thereto, they constituted a general government for special purposes — delegated to that government certain definite powers, reserving, each State to itself, the residuary mass of right to their own self-government; and that whensoever the general government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force: that to this compact each State acceded as a State, and is an integral part, its co-States forming, as to itself, the other party: that the government created by this compact was not made the exclusive or final judge of the extent of the powers delegated to itself; since that would have made its discretion, and not the Constitution, the measure of its powers; but that, as in all other cases of compact among powers having no common judge, each party has an equal right to judge for itself, as well of infractions as of the mode and measure of redress."

But it is objected, that the judicial authority is to be regarded as the sole expositor of the Constitution in the last resort; and it may be asked for what reason the declaration by the General Assembly, supposing it to be theoretically true, could be required at the present day, and in so solemn a manner. On this objection it might be observed, first, that there may be instances of usurped power, which the forms of the Constitution would never draw within the control of the judicial department; secondly, that, if the decision of the judiciary be raised above the authority of the sovereign parties (We the People are sovereign) to the Constitution, the decisions of the other departments, not carried by the forms of the Constitution before the judiciary, must be equally authoritative and final with the decisions of that department. But the proper answer to the objection is, that the resolution of the General Assembly relates to those great and extraordinary cases, in which all the forms of the Constitution may prove ineffectual against infractions dangerous to the essential rights of the parties to it. The resolution supposes that dangerous powers, not delegated, may not only be usurped and executed by the other departments, but that the judicial department, also, may exercise or sanction dangerous powers beyond the grant of the Constitution; and, consequently, that the ultimate right of the parties to the Constitution, to judge whether the compact has been dangerously violated, must extend to violations by one delegated authority as well as by another–by the judiciary as well as by the executive, or the legislature.” James Madison

“…To consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions is a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men and not more so. They have with others the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps…and their power is more dangerous as they are in office for life and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The Constitution has erected no such tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruption of time and party, its members would become despots….” Jefferson

“If the federal government is allowed to hold a monopoly on determining the extent of its own powers, we have no right to be surprised when it keeps discovering new ones.”  Jefferson

"Every act of a delegated authority, contrary to the tenor of the commission under which it is exercised, is void. No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid. To deny this, would be to affirm, that the deputy is greater than his principal; that the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves; that men acting by virtue of powers, may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid."  Alexander Hamilton

America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” Abraham Lincoln (Because "we" are the third branch of the government and we ignored OUR duties)

“Abuse of words has been the great instrument of sophistry and chicanery, of party, faction, and division of society.” John Adams

There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.” John Adams

“Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual. Thomas Jefferson

Part of the answer is taking control of our states. Knowing each state's constitution which is that states declared Republican form of government, defining it. It is also the highest law in that state, subservient only the US Constitution and all laws/etc in Pursuant thereof.

18 USC § 241Conspiracy against rights: If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or
If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

U.S. Supreme Court CAHA v. U.S., 152 U.S. 211: “Generally speaking, within any state of this Union the preservation of the peace and the protection of person and property are the functions of the state government, and are NO PART of the primary duty, at least, of the nation. The laws of congress in respect to those matters DO NOT extend into the territorial limits of the states, but have force ONLY in the District of Columbia, and other places that are within the exclusive jurisdiction of the national government.”

Rost v. Municipal Court of Southern Judicial District of San Mateo (1960): "The Legislature, either by amending or otherwise, may not nullify a constitutional provision."

Eisner v. Macomber, 252 U.S. 189 (1920): "Congress … cannot by legislation alter the Constitution, from which alone it derives its power to legislate, and within whose limitations alone that power can be lawfully exercised."

Fina Supply, Inc. v. Abilene Nat. Bank, 726 S.W.2d 537, 1987 it says “Party having superior knowledge who takes advantage of another’s ignorance of the law to deceive him by studied concealment or misrepresentation can be held responsible for that conduct.”

Rubinstein v. Collins, 20 F.3d 160, 1990: “Knowing failure to disclose material information necessary to prevent statement from being misleading, or making representation despite knowledge that it has no reasonable basis in fact, are actionable as fraud under law.”

It is well established law that Fraud vitiates (makes void) any contract that arises from it. When those representatives take office or postitions within the federal or state governments they are in contract to/with "We the People". The Oath supports and verifies that they know what is in that contract by lawfully requiring them to "support and defend the US Constitution" and, if a state representative, they swear to support and defend both the US Constitution and the state constitution. (That is why we can lawfully fire them and replace them when they break the Oath - sworn verification of contract)

Brookfield Construction Company V. Stewart 284 F Sup. 94: "An officer who acts in violation of the constitution ceases to represent the government."

Okay, so the fed gov has built-in remedies and those not beng used by "our" representatives is treason against the people.  The states have powers that are not being used by those who "represent" the people in the state. What is the third restriction on those two branches of the American government? The third branch. According to the US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence (yes, they are connected) "We the People" are to stop usurpations, unlawful activities.

Black’s Law Dictionary, first edition, defines de facto: “In fact, in deed, actually. This phrase is used to characterize an officer, a government, a past action, or a state of affairs which exists actually and must be accepted for all practical purposes, but which is illegal or illegitimate”. 

Black’s Law Dictionary, first edition, defines usurper: "One who assumes the right of government by force, contrary to and in violation of the constitution of the country."

So it is our fault that we are where we are today. But this can be changed. How? Start lawfully in each state by reminding those state representatives what their assigned duties are. Then remind all Sheriff's (the only lawful law enforcemetn agency that directly gets their power from the people of that state) of the state constitution and their lawfully binding contract. Remind ALL judges from whence they get their authority. Remove all from the positions they are occupying who refuse to do the job assigned them under lawful contract. Start a vote to replace them without using any machines, counted within your state by people surrounded by videos and watchers (back a bit from the counters but close enough to see).

Before you say "we cannot do that" read your state constitution - so far I have not read one that did not say it was created by the people of that state. Ex: We, the People of the State of XXXXXX, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure and perpetuate its blessings, do establish this Constitution.

It usually adds somewhere within it something like this dclaring the US Constitution as the supreme law of the land (not the fed gov): The State of California is an inseparable part of the United States of America, and the United States Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

Plus something like this: Notwithstanding any other provision of this Constitution, no person or organization which advocates the overthrow of the Government of the United States or the State by force or violence or other unlawful means or who advocates the support of a foreign government against the United States in the event of hostilities shall:
(a) Hold any office or employment under this State, including but not limited to the University of California, or with any county, city or county, city, district, political subdivision, authority, board, bureau, commission or other public agency of this State; or
(b) Receive any exemption from any tax imposed by this State or any county, city or county, city, district, political subdivision, authority, board, bureau, commission or other public agency of this State.

Changing our Constitutional Republic by changing the  US Constitution by unconstitutional means is " overthrow of the Government of the United States or the State... or other unlawful means.

Then something like this: Members of the Legislature, and all public officers and employees, executive, legislative, and judicial, except such inferior officers and employees as may be by law exempted, shall, before they enter upon the duties of their respective offices, take and subscribe the following oath or affirmation. The Oath may require more then the suport and defense of the US Constitution and the State Constitution, but it will NOT require less. This was required by the constitution set up by the people of that state.

They also usually state the Governor is in charge of that states militia and training of. That the militia is to be called upon defend the state and the USA from attacks when needed (which shows that they need military grade arms, and training with them, that any soldier invading might use against the state or the USA).

They all say this (at least al that I have read so far - about 20): "The citizens are to be secure in their person, home, papers, and property, from unreasonable searches and seizure" and

Richard Henry Lee, Senator, 1st Congress: "A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves ... and include all men capable of bearing arms."

John Adams, 2nd US President: "You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments; rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; rights derived from the Great Legislator of the Universe” 

Madison, Federalist 45: The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former (fed gov) will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.”

US Constitution, Art IV Sec 2, the 14th says, "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States"

Replace those who refulse to keep their oath, thus breaking the contract made with the people of the state. Prosecute those who criminally broke the oath by treason, or other criminal or civil offenses. Remember that judges only get to keep their office if they are "good" - keep their oath, and make sure all laws are in pursuance thereof the US Constitution, and the state constitution. Remove them if they do not. Use Constitutional Sheriffs to do so if needed. You will most likely need to build a case to get them to do so.

I have been pushing for this in my state which is the most corrupt in the union. It is a slow battle, and at times depressing. But slowly (very slowly) things are happening. NDAA is one that is being nullified. The hardest thing to get past is educating the people that constitution(s) are law. That they can, and must, do something. That they are not powerless as they have been taught, jsut that their power takes knowledge and the will to keep pushing. It is not easy - how can it be when we have decades of corruption to overcome. But it gets worse when we ignore it as we have seen for ourselves.

Stay Safe and Detention Free All. TYhe three branches of the American Constitutional Republic form of government are: "We the people", the states, the fed gov.

 

Until it is decided by a NON partial committee it will not be decided - it is opnion. Unless the Paul's are willing to spend time in the courts, they cannot give an opinion either way. Well, Ron Paul can now.

My OPINION is that the Bush adminstration, the CIA, along with some assistance from other nations attacked New York city and took down the twin towers and others for multiple reasons based on knowledgeable evidence given by those who would know. I firmly believe this and it is ONE of the reasons I have pushed for Bush1and his complete adminstration and ALL corporate media - reporters, heads of stations, etc; and all those involved in the clean-up and cover-up (any part of the cover-up- want leniency come forward because we all WILL be pushing for death penalty) - to be arrested and prosecuted for his/their crimes - both criminal and civil, for treason, murder, mass murder, and also for 9/11 (murder, treason, etc). They are all accomplices. Again, it is MY opinion - but it IS based on facts.

RON Paul has an impressive political record that can be tracked and verified over the years he was in office. Rand Paul flip flops already.

Well said ;)

That is the point. That we are our own salvation. We start by trying the "usual" means. No matter what we do, we who support the US Constitution and our legitimate government use the rule of law until they get angry enough to come for us - then we defend ourselves.

If the rule of law gets a few in prison along the way it helps. If we can take it to the courts; treason, murder, mass murder, etc - more get informed by all the broadcasting we can do, PLUS it shows that we are not kooks, and "terrorists", but lawful citizens.

I disagree.

There is the rule of law, just like there still is our LEGITIMATE  government. That those we put into office, and those that they put into office have chosen to not follow the contract we made with them - and it is a lawful contract - does not make it no longer exist.

It will no longer exist when WE the People decide it no longer exists. It is up to us to implement the punishments that those treasonous scum deserve - but I suggest that we start by using OUR laws - NOT theirs. By not letting the unlawful stuff they create be valid for us. By fighting together to let them know that WE (hopefully a bunch of us) let each congressman, senator, judicial, state official know that we want and are fighting for them to be prosecuted for treason and we are going to be PUSHING for the maximum sentence - death.

When "our" reps know that there are enough of us willing to let them know this instead of complain amongst ourselves with a few of us actually letting them know - some things will change. They will either decide to attack us (which they are already doing/going to do anyway - so what will we lose by trying) or they will start making small changes - enough that their recent masters do not kill them, but enough to try and make it so we do not either.

What about if we make a list of all representatives, decide on the order of, and write to each of them? A mulititude of us letting them know, quote the lawful laws, and the sentences of each that they had broken.  Work within OUR laws until we have no choice but to defend ourselves from physical attack?

Should we also write to all sheriffs? Demanding that they operate under the lawful contract? Yes, it IS a lot of work. But isn't it worth trying? If we can work together on this, send it to each from each of us, it might have no affect, but then again, it might do some good. And we do need some "good" at this time.

What do everyone think? Any other ideas besides wait or attack?

To many people, I know, think some knight like John Wayne is going to ride in and save us. Other so-called Christians think God will rapture them up to heaven before things get really bad. Both are mistaken.No one is going to save us except ourselves get off our asses and doing something to stop this out of control government. Everyone wants to look for a white knight like Ron Paul to save us. It just isn't going to happen.

If Obama gets one or two more Supreme appointments, which will be rubber stamped by the Senate, you can forget about our civil rights. Just like Obamacare anything Obama does will be rubber stamped by them. Electing and re-electing Obama has been the worst thing that has happened in our 200+ year history. A friend of mine told me "We Get The Government We Deserve, As a Whole" even if you and I oppose it 100%.

So let's oppose it.

Let's still uphold OUR legitimate government while we do so. I believe when we stop doing that we lose everything.

WE do not comply with unlawful orders, film everything we can - direct link preferable for those who can to the internet so that it can be viewed quickly, start lawful opposition by writing to those criminals: list laws they have broken contract they made null and void by their actions and they no longer meet, list the penalties of those crimes and that for all we get prosecuted for treason we will fight for ther death penalty - that lets them know we want them dead lawully. Remove all judges who do not keep thier contract which to use ONLY constitutional laws, not foreign or created unconstitutional laws as that is where their authority comes from. Congress, Senate, Sheriffs, all of the state heads, etc.

Some of us look up and verify laws, etc? Some of us write what is needed to send? Some of us create the list of congress, senate, sheriffs of EVERY county in the USA - they are elected by us, so we should amke a decent impact there. Support every constitutional sheriff - and remind them it is NOT only the gun laws they are to uphold.

Educate every family member or friend serving in the US military. Let them know that Dempsey, Panetta, Obama committed treason when they gave authority over the USA and the US military to the UN - a foreign entity. That what they are ordering are unlawful orders and that they, as service people can be held responsible for obeying unlawful commands. There are precedents of presidents making unlawful orders

WE do not comply, we do PUSH BACK lawfully under OUR legitimate government. If we let them erase our government we lost anyway. Make sense? If we don't support and fight the ways it gives us, and it does give us many ways, then "We Get The Government We Deserve, As a Whole" will mean a government we do NOT want here in the USA.

I am saying fight, but fight using OUR beliefs, our government. Remember, we are allowed to defend ourselves. Join militias - and yes they have made a big comeback to get trained. Do NOT do anything that OUR government does not allow - ignore the unlawful stuff they are trying to forcefeed us. And WE are the "John Wayne", WE are the "White Knight", WE are the legitimate government of the USA. WE are not the corruption, the treasonous scum - they are. Let us make them know that WE see them for whothey are and we want them to pay - lawfully -preferable the DEATH PENALTY.

It is up to us.

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