@James D. :) not been proven fables since the dawn of time and certainly not the last 400 years and with 100% accuracy in its prophesy. not bad for "fables' lol
@Nikki: ok, it would significantly affect us adversely - china, russia and 5 other states are members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) - they specifically formed to counter-balance NATO - to rid the east of western presence - iran was an observer in this organization until a few days ago when they petitioned membership - scary indeed
The Shanghai Cooperation Organisation or SCO (Chinese: 上海合作组织; Russian: Шанхайская организация сотрудничества), is an intergovernmental mutual-security organisation which was founded in 2001 in Shanghai by the leaders of China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan. Except for Uzbekistan, the other countries had been members of the Shanghai Five, founded in 1996; after the inclusion of Uzbekistan in 2001, the members renamed the organisation.
to THEM, it is all a game...global chessboard and the pieces are being positioned for endgame. It is deadly serious to us. But to THEM, we don't really matter.
WWIII is a tiny part of a bigger picture that will make WWIII look like a firecracker. You aren't getting the bigger picture. WWIII won't last very long before it will be stopped by the Hierarchy if its before the prosperity period. If its after the prosperity period then it will last for another 5+ years and more death than you can imagine. WWIII is only the fuse for a much bigger fish and plan.
Goyim(cattle) owned by the bumblebee crown, herded by DC, milked, slaughtered and administered by the Zionists and kept spiritually ignorant by the Vatican..all the while, being kept complacent by the cow dog media.
Ah yes the Grand Chessboard...it may be a game to them but it is not a game to the rest of us...and it is time the so called 99% of the people on the planet wake up to who the enemy is...that being said... the enemy is the owners of the unfederal federal reserve....We now have troops in Israel and the largest owner of the federal reserve also owns Israel...
Our declaration of Independence was designed to put the USA, Inc. in financial bondage, by 1783, Paris Peace Treaty and the 70 year bank cycle three Times starting in 1789. All wars have been planned way ahead.
Expose the war mongers we have in office selected by them that work thru AIPAC...Expose the voting machines that are controlled by Israelis...Expose the USS Liberty and who did that... Iran does not have a nuclear bomb they are working on nuclear energy because they don't have the refineries...That's right all that oil and a shortage of electricity..Every Republican candidate except Ron Paul are saying bomb Iran... and so are the democrats....Americans need to get a clue...They need to see the truth and see it soon...
a few of us discussed this on my Art of War blog...
summary
The reason it appears that the PTB are not fully following Sun Tzu's strategic advice is because in this era of financial warfare, his tactics are irrelevant.
The ones waging the wars have already picked the winner and all the fighting, bloodshed, death and destruction. All of the misery, despair, disease and poverty.....it is all just sick entertainment to THEM.
I do not know what drives these dark impulses..demonic control, Satan, little green men from mars, purple and blue pixies from the center of the Earth or just one of the things that will become extinct following our next stage of evolution. What I honestly believe with every fiber of my being is this. Regardless of whatever outside influence is directed at you to control your will...it is YOU/I that has the final say.. truth is only limited by how deep YOU/I decide to search for it.
Now, concerning Iran/Persia
There are several ancient civilizations that are still around, Iran/Persia is one of them. Regimes have come and gone, names have been changed but the overall land area, local custom, and cultures have pretty much endured. And so have their ancient secrets.
I see this scenario.
The power behind the throne of the papacy (ruler of the world) desires the ancient secrets that Persia still possesses. Using every means at their disposal,(insert conspiracy theory here) the end justify the means. If 80% of us are exterminated so that they can feel more powerful..so be it. Has history ever been any different?
Iran is a stepping stone but not so much for resources or strategic location, but for total control over the esoteric secrets that THEY want to monopolize.
So, as I always say, its all a conspiracy, that's my theory.
oh, and I concur 100% about cherishing inner peace...that is where true world peace begins. make peace with yourself before trying to bring peace to the world.
@Tommy D. It is in fact one conspiracy as evidence confirms. literally, they control the Banking, Business, military, Politics, Education, media, religion, All intelligence agencies, Medicine/drug companies, Illegal drugs/Organized crime. THis is done by a hierarchical system.
Thanks for the links Thomas and Theresa. From the link Thomas provided, here's the answer I was looking for:
Similarly and more directly related to the planned attack on Iran, the US is arming the Gulf States (Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates) with land-based interceptor missiles, Patriot Advanced Capability-3 and Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) as well as sea-based Standard Missile-3 interceptors installed on Aegis class warships in the Persian Gulf. (See Rick Rozoff, NATO’s Role In The Military Encirclement Of Iran, Global Research, February 10, 2010).
@ Tommy D, yes many jobs are available through the corporations you mentioned but not all. (Or one could stay here and work for McDonalds or Walmart, lol.) The job that was discussed with me was actually in the travel/hospitality industry.
It's called power lust...whether secular or religious or a combination of both. History DOES repeat itself and, thanx to the dumbing down in our public screwls, it is never taught. Connecting the dots and following the money trail takes too much time and energy when there's so much sport, game shows and reality TV to watch.
The Disclosure that is coming soon, will more than likely take credit for stopping the opposing forces not only in the so called WWIII situation developing or their FAKE ARMAGEDDON, and the space war. Once Disclosure takes place your lives will change and you better buckle up for unexpected turns. Long story very short.
Its all about building up the evil; and this is part of it. These people are total evil not only within our country but in Europe. This is scripted so those that hear it can see how evil it is and thereby providing the Thesis (hegelian dialectic), that our government is evil and we need a new government, to the anti-thesis (Disclosure and the world will abolish all wars and bring about a world government) so that we will accept the world government which will due time become worse. For the secular thinker its a catch 22. However, the reality is they are spinning their wheels because a bigger fish is going to fry them.
:)) its certainly not Wanda; you will wish it was Wanda. In due time you will find out. No need telling you now. It will be obvious. We can just continue talking about this so called WWIII lol
In time ,why didn't you post the link to the wole clip of the film ! Some of us are getting to be like Gloris from CNN ,ediiting wanrt shows or seem to show things out og context! If you gonna be in a discussion ,be in it truthfully! I pray this for all of us in this discussion forum!
In the film, who are the "THEY ARE LYING" that is being referred too? It is the Vatican/Jesuits and the Priesthood or custodian of "THE GRAND PLAN" The Black Nobility or worldwide ROYAL families to include the Hierarchical slaves, Queen Elizabeth II and her wayward families. Our Very own Masonic Congress, Pentagon leaders who in fact are into serious ritualized Witchcraft from Wicca to other secret societies. The Fake Jews that occupy British Israel for now. The secret societies house the evil that occupies our governments and education systems and military under a LUCIFERIAN agenda.
@TommyD, we are forgetting the worse ones...my fault. Others are the 33rd Degree masons, Billy Graham, Robert Shueler, Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn, Copeland, Eastern Star Meyers, Crouch, Dolar, Braizer, TD James, All the calvinist ministers, Vatican literally, heck literally all the Prosperity, Charismatic, TBN, and Word Faith heretics who are a mixture of Masons and Jesuits undercover literally. Christians have no idea the deception and lies going on in the churches. Almost all of them. Big surprises coming when this Target Iran reaches a critical mass and DISCLOSURE/Day of Declaration just takes over. @TommyD, add to it if I missed anyone.
MY NAME ISN'T ,HONEY! MS. TULA ****** I USE MY REAL NAME AND DON'T HIND BEHIND A BUNVH OF LIES AND LYING INCENUATIONS OF EDITING CRAP! I'M HONEZT AS THE DAY IS LONG ,AND I'M NOT CHANGING MY WAYS TO DEAL WITH THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IN THE FIRST PLACE!
TommyD
is this according to your King James fables?
Jan 13, 2012
Thomas Gambill
@James D. :) not been proven fables since the dawn of time and certainly not the last 400 years and with 100% accuracy in its prophesy. not bad for "fables' lol
Jan 13, 2012
theresa musselwhite
@Nikki: ok, it would significantly affect us adversely - china, russia and 5 other states are members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) - they specifically formed to counter-balance NATO - to rid the east of western presence - iran was an observer in this organization until a few days ago when they petitioned membership - scary indeed
Jan 13, 2012
Thomas Gambill
Wicca is evil to the core by its deceiving and misdirection of its true roots. However, we are off subject here now for real.
Jan 13, 2012
theresa musselwhite
here's a few links for ya Nikki - http://www.sectsco.org/EN/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation
Jan 13, 2012
Thomas Gambill
Nikki this might work for you
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=20403&context=va
Jan 13, 2012
margaret
Right on Vincent!
Jan 13, 2012
Thomas Gambill
this war was planned by Albert Pike, to now. They are playing around for the time being.
Jan 13, 2012
margaret
Look up in your search how many countries did not have a Rothschild controlled central bank before 911...on that list we can now mark off Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, http://fightingforliberty.ning.com/profiles/blogs/how-many-countrie...
Jan 13, 2012
margaret
I agree Vincent ... WW3 is not a game.. It is freakin serious...
http://fightingforliberty.ning.com/profiles/blog/list?q=iran
Jan 13, 2012
TommyD
to THEM, it is all a game...global chessboard and the pieces are being positioned for endgame. It is deadly serious to us. But to THEM, we don't really matter.
Jan 13, 2012
Thomas Gambill
WWIII is a tiny part of a bigger picture that will make WWIII look like a firecracker. You aren't getting the bigger picture. WWIII won't last very long before it will be stopped by the Hierarchy if its before the prosperity period. If its after the prosperity period then it will last for another 5+ years and more death than you can imagine. WWIII is only the fuse for a much bigger fish and plan.
Jan 13, 2012
Thomas Gambill
@TommyD. yes exactly. we are considered "Goyim"
Jan 13, 2012
TommyD
Goyim(cattle) owned by the bumblebee crown, herded by DC, milked, slaughtered and administered by the Zionists and kept spiritually ignorant by the Vatican..all the while, being kept complacent by the cow dog media.
Planet Earth, one big cattle farm.....
Jan 13, 2012
TommyD
oops..cattle ranch*
Jan 13, 2012
TommyD
The banking system finances all sides to the wars and profit regardless of who is declared the winner
Jan 13, 2012
Thomas Gambill
@tommy D, yes well said.
Jan 13, 2012
TommyD
thx Thomas..we may not agree religiously or spiritually but I am sure we both are far enough down the rabbit hole to put those difference aside.
Jan 13, 2012
margaret
Ah yes the Grand Chessboard...it may be a game to them but it is not a game to the rest of us...and it is time the so called 99% of the people on the planet wake up to who the enemy is...that being said... the enemy is the owners of the unfederal federal reserve....We now have troops in Israel and the largest owner of the federal reserve also owns Israel...
Jan 13, 2012
Thomas Gambill
Our declaration of Independence was designed to put the USA, Inc. in financial bondage, by 1783, Paris Peace Treaty and the 70 year bank cycle three Times starting in 1789. All wars have been planned way ahead.
Jan 13, 2012
margaret
Jan 13, 2012
margaret
Expose the war mongers we have in office selected by them that work thru AIPAC...Expose the voting machines that are controlled by Israelis...Expose the USS Liberty and who did that... Iran does not have a nuclear bomb they are working on nuclear energy because they don't have the refineries...That's right all that oil and a shortage of electricity..Every Republican candidate except Ron Paul are saying bomb Iran... and so are the democrats....Americans need to get a clue...They need to see the truth and see it soon...
Jan 13, 2012
TommyD
@Vincent
a few of us discussed this on my Art of War blog...
summary
The reason it appears that the PTB are not fully following Sun Tzu's strategic advice is because in this era of financial warfare, his tactics are irrelevant.
The ones waging the wars have already picked the winner and all the fighting, bloodshed, death and destruction. All of the misery, despair, disease and poverty.....it is all just sick entertainment to THEM.
I do not know what drives these dark impulses..demonic control, Satan, little green men from mars, purple and blue pixies from the center of the Earth or just one of the things that will become extinct following our next stage of evolution. What I honestly believe with every fiber of my being is this. Regardless of whatever outside influence is directed at you to control your will...it is YOU/I that has the final say.. truth is only limited by how deep YOU/I decide to search for it.
Now, concerning Iran/Persia
There are several ancient civilizations that are still around, Iran/Persia is one of them. Regimes have come and gone, names have been changed but the overall land area, local custom, and cultures have pretty much endured. And so have their ancient secrets.
I see this scenario.
The power behind the throne of the papacy (ruler of the world) desires the ancient secrets that Persia still possesses. Using every means at their disposal,(insert conspiracy theory here) the end justify the means. If 80% of us are exterminated so that they can feel more powerful..so be it. Has history ever been any different?
Iran is a stepping stone but not so much for resources or strategic location, but for total control over the esoteric secrets that THEY want to monopolize.
So, as I always say, its all a conspiracy, that's my theory.
Jan 13, 2012
margaret
The timeline of the Rothschilds is fact..not theory
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm
Jan 13, 2012
TommyD
@Margaret--
The power behind the throne of the papacy
Jan 13, 2012
TommyD
@Vincent
held is the keyword....
but were they obtained during our invasion/occupation or did THEY discover that the secrets had been moved elsewhere? hmmmm...
Jan 13, 2012
TommyD
oh, and I concur 100% about cherishing inner peace...that is where true world peace begins. make peace with yourself before trying to bring peace to the world.
Jan 13, 2012
Thomas Gambill
@Tommy D. It is in fact one conspiracy as evidence confirms. literally, they control the Banking, Business, military, Politics, Education, media, religion, All intelligence agencies, Medicine/drug companies, Illegal drugs/Organized crime. THis is done by a hierarchical system.
Jan 13, 2012
TommyD
@oh yeah, I have seen some of this before..I will def check it out once my wife has her few hours on the pc,lol
Jan 13, 2012
TommyD
Hence THEY( Tyrannical Hierarchy Elitist Yahoos) in my posts...lol
All of those things that you listed that THEY control...THAT is THEIR control!
Jan 13, 2012
truth
US Admits Real Target Is Iran Central Bank (Anyone For More War and...
Jan 13, 2012
TommyD
Give me control of a nations monetary system and I care not who makes its laws...or something like that...M.A. Rothschild
Jan 13, 2012
Cryptocurrency
Ex-Israeli Intelligence Officer: “Pearl Harbor” Style Attack Will B...
Jan 13, 2012
TommyD
we will Vincent...we will
Jan 13, 2012
Nikki
Thanks for the links Thomas and Theresa. From the link Thomas provided, here's the answer I was looking for:
@ Tommy D, yes many jobs are available through the corporations you mentioned but not all. (Or one could stay here and work for McDonalds or Walmart, lol.) The job that was discussed with me was actually in the travel/hospitality industry.
Jan 13, 2012
rtaylortitle
It's called power lust...whether secular or religious or a combination of both. History DOES repeat itself and, thanx to the dumbing down in our public screwls, it is never taught. Connecting the dots and following the money trail takes too much time and energy when there's so much sport, game shows and reality TV to watch.
Jan 14, 2012
Thomas Gambill
The Disclosure that is coming soon, will more than likely take credit for stopping the opposing forces not only in the so called WWIII situation developing or their FAKE ARMAGEDDON, and the space war. Once Disclosure takes place your lives will change and you better buckle up for unexpected turns. Long story very short.
Jan 14, 2012
margaret
This is insanity
Jan 14, 2012
Thomas Gambill
Its all about building up the evil; and this is part of it. These people are total evil not only within our country but in Europe. This is scripted so those that hear it can see how evil it is and thereby providing the Thesis (hegelian dialectic), that our government is evil and we need a new government, to the anti-thesis (Disclosure and the world will abolish all wars and bring about a world government) so that we will accept the world government which will due time become worse. For the secular thinker its a catch 22. However, the reality is they are spinning their wheels because a bigger fish is going to fry them.
Jan 14, 2012
Thomas Gambill
:)) its certainly not Wanda; you will wish it was Wanda. In due time you will find out. No need telling you now. It will be obvious. We can just continue talking about this so called WWIII lol
Jan 14, 2012
margaret
http://vimeo.com/34992640
Jan 14, 2012
Vida Smith Compton
Jan 14, 2012
Vida Smith Compton
Jan 14, 2012
Tula
Go look it up yourself honey...Youtube
Jan 14, 2012
Thomas Gambill
In the film, who are the "THEY ARE LYING" that is being referred too? It is the Vatican/Jesuits and the Priesthood or custodian of "THE GRAND PLAN" The Black Nobility or worldwide ROYAL families to include the Hierarchical slaves, Queen Elizabeth II and her wayward families. Our Very own Masonic Congress, Pentagon leaders who in fact are into serious ritualized Witchcraft from Wicca to other secret societies. The Fake Jews that occupy British Israel for now. The secret societies house the evil that occupies our governments and education systems and military under a LUCIFERIAN agenda.
Jan 14, 2012
TommyD
@Thomas
correct on all counts...THEY all are lying
Jan 14, 2012
Thomas Gambill
Where is Elmer Fudd when you need him to handle these pesky rascals? Maybe write him into the presidents slot we might get something done.
Jan 14, 2012
Thomas Gambill
@TommyD, we are forgetting the worse ones...my fault. Others are the 33rd Degree masons, Billy Graham, Robert Shueler, Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn, Copeland, Eastern Star Meyers, Crouch, Dolar, Braizer, TD James, All the calvinist ministers, Vatican literally, heck literally all the Prosperity, Charismatic, TBN, and Word Faith heretics who are a mixture of Masons and Jesuits undercover literally. Christians have no idea the deception and lies going on in the churches. Almost all of them. Big surprises coming when this Target Iran reaches a critical mass and DISCLOSURE/Day of Declaration just takes over. @TommyD, add to it if I missed anyone.
Jan 14, 2012
TommyD
"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." ~Henry David Thoreau
Jan 14, 2012
Vida Smith Compton
Jan 14, 2012