After both Rand Paul and Chris Christie said that the government should not have the power to make childhood vaccines mandatory, Fox News hosts Megyn Kelly and Bill O’Reilly agreed that the state should be able to force parents into giving their kids shots, arguing “some things require big brother”.

During a visit to a vaccine laboratory, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said there should be “some measure of choice” on whether parents decide to vaccinate their children or not, dependent on the type of vaccine and the disease in question.

His remarks were followed by Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, who told CNBC, “The state doesn’t own your children….parents own the children. And it is an issue of freedom and public health.”