Curious: Why Would Alex Jones Remove These Comments and pretend they never existed?
(NOTE: This is basically a comment I wanted to post somewhere and making it into a post due to it's length)
The other day I came across an interesting piece by Judge Napolitino titled "What If Democracy Is Bunk?". Of course what pricked my interest more than the article (I did like it but I certainly saw no reason for the "What Ifs") were the comments -- especially the last one -- I found at the Infowars site which had posted the article. I wanted to research them further, so I bookmarked it thinking I'd come back to it later when I had the time.
Well today I went back there -- and to my big surprise -- ALL the comments had been disappeared! Not only that but the comments had been closed under the article (see for yourself) . Luckily I found them in Google's cache of the page and they are reproduced below (in case they disappear from there too):
23 Responses to “What If Democracy Is Bunk?”
Now what is so offensive in these to justify Jones taking the knive to them?????????
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Comment by Cryptocurrency on March 7, 2012 at 12:13am
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I was not commenting on your posting or the above comments as indicated in my replies here. I was commenting on the generality of the problem.
I don't know why they removed the comments you found (other than the reasons I already stated) in google cache. Perhaps it a a bandwith issue. This is what messed up his social network years ago leading to the creation of 12160 and subsequent networks. I would say, instead of wasting time speculating, the easiest way to discern such matters would be to just ask. Talk to his technical staff. They are quite friendly and patient and will answer any questions you may have. Only a phone call away...
You could always call into the show and ask Alex. He might get annoyed simply because it's probably something he has clarified many times and you know how he is ;)
As for your last comment about the only conspiracy theory being the cointelrpo goons hawking the message boards, well, see for yourself and watch the comments section. It use to be a lot worse before they monitored better. Got so bad they had FEDS coming down to their office, secret service, because people were making threats towards the president and everything else. Infowars techs traced the ip addresses back to overseas U.S military bases. Soo, no conspiracy theory friend, just the powers of darkness trying to eclipse the light. Good day...
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Comment by Nota Khan on March 6, 2012 at 11:45pm
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"Removing comments that attack our ideology and credibility is quite sensible and responsible." Well that might be but I do not see any such thing in the example posted. And what if the comments further"our ideology and credibility"? Why get rid of those too???
"They stalk the front page of the website waiting for a new article they can trash."
That may be but it is certainly not true of the example posted. It had 23 comments and NOT ONE that "trashes" the "new article" or can be construed as an "attack [on] our ideology and credibility" (in fact they are just the opposite).
"I don't have time for Alex Jones conspiracy theories. Good day..."
The only conspiracy theory I see here is "cointelpro goons get to them...They stalk the front page of the website waiting for a new article they can trash." ;-)
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You have misunderstood my point then. Getting rid of them is not plain silly. Removing comments that attack our ideology and credibility is quite sensible and responsible.
And closing them before the cointelpro goons get to them doesn't work either. They stalk the front page of the website waiting for a new article they can trash.
I don't have time for Alex Jones conspiracy theories. Good day...
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@KRYPKE:
"Problem is, once a story is archived, cointelpro can dig up old articles and have a way at them so that when people like us do a search and that article pops up it's loaded with propaganda. Tough to wake people up when you're sending them an article full of nutty comments. The objective is to make us look bad in the comments section. Let's face it, most people read the comments more than they do the article..."
Sorry but that argument makes no sense as far as REMOVING comments is concerned. Like you yourself say, "more people read comments more then they do the article" so getting rid of them is plain silly (I certainly would not comment knowing on a site knowing it would soon end up in the trash bin). And if your argument was valid, closing them would suffice (before the "cointelpro goons" got to it).
Thanks! Now that makes some sense in a 'Blowhard' kind of way (though I don't buy what Blowhard is selling)! :)
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"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people."
E. Roosevelt
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Comment by Freedomrox on March 6, 2012 at 4:00am
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Yes, and Alex employs some of the best COINTELPRO Agents that the Justice Dept. can afford to let him have.
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Alex has addressed this issue a few times. It's mainly because of the cointelpro goons that sit and wait like hawks for a story to be posted. Within five minutes of a posting they are all over it trying to discredit the story, or discredit Alex, or YOU, if you question their intentions and malicious narrow mindedness. He also closes the comments to prevent disinfo types from attacking articles that are no longer on the front page for them to monitor. Problem is, once a story is archived, cointelpro can dig up old articles and have a way at them so that when people like us do a search and that article pops up it's loaded with propaganda. Tough to wake people up when you're sending them an article full of nutty comments. The objective is to make us look bad in the comments section. Let's face it, most people read the comments more than they do the article...
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Comment by suzie on March 5, 2012 at 4:58pm
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The Jugde's what if democracy was bunk speech!
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Comment by Nikki on March 5, 2012 at 4:44pm
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@Nota, we've sure missed you around here :-)
@Hollyw00d, thanks for sharing that info. Every time I've searched infowars archives, I wondered why there were no comments so now I know why.
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Comment by Exposure on March 5, 2012 at 2:11pm
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I can't understand why they would wish to pull those comments? - And then read H0llyw00d's take on things, so suppose there's the explanation?
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I like this guy. Judge Napolitano understands the importance of teaching the use of integrity as the best meas to an end. Quality worth repeating requires fidelity and dedication of purpose and intent. i think he may have it. I hope these two have souls.
“Democratic” in its original meaning [refers to] unlimited majority rule . . . a social system in which one’s work, one’s property, one’s mind, and one’s life are at the mercy of any gang that may muster the vote of a majority at any moment for any purpose. – Ayn Rand
Today, when a concerted effort is made to obliterate this point, it cannot be repeated too often that the Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals—that it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government—that it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizens’ protection against the government.
Now consider the extent of the moral and political inversion in today’s prevalent view of government. Instead of being a protector of man’s rights, the government is becoming their most dangerous violator; instead of guarding freedom, the government is establishing slavery; instead of protecting men from the initiators of physical force, the government is initiating physical force and coercion in any manner and issue it pleases; instead of serving as the instrument of objectivity in human relationships, the government is creating a deadly, subterranean reign of uncertainty and fear, by means of nonobjective laws whose interpretation is left to the arbitrary decisions of random bureaucrats; instead of protecting men from injury by whim, the government is arrogating to itself the power of unlimited whim—so that we are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force. – Ayn Rand 1963
BINGO, great article!! I’ll create an “Opener” page and include this.
I know the voting doesn’t matter, I know the caucus and all that don’t matter, yet I still showed up hoping that I can touch the hearts of at least one other individual! You may get upset, think what you are doing isn’t working, but you have to get involved somehow and inject the real ideas that are bullet proof. it’s about sharing truth knowledge or information to properly educate all of us, something everyone openly acknowledges and believes, otherwise, whats the point of going to school and getting an education?
Im not prejudice, I dislike everyone equally. Now, is that a fair statement?
What the “JUDGE” seems to be saying . . . its only a matter of “TIME” before . . .
OK I was not born yesterday I am aware that voting probably wont make much of a difference if any at all. So does this mean to help shape the country I have to be come a Gladhanding, backstabbing, corrupt, immoral politician to effect change of any kind?
It appears that in order to help my fellow man I must become what the fathers of the Constitution warned against…. to protect Liberty I must become and evil Jackass with no moral code whatsoever.
I guess my fellow man is out of luck because I refuse to be the kind of ass it will take to play the game.
I guess its time to change the game
google up KENITES and see if you can figure things out…
Democracy is indispensable to socialism. V. I. Lenin
Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx
The goal of socialism is communism. V. I. Lenin
First you destroy a Republic, a Monarchy or any Nationalist governmental form with Democracy. The resulting confusion of dissonant opinions can only be controlled by Socialism. This huge bureaucracy will use equalitarianism as their guide. However, since no one is equal, the contradictions in the laws take a totalitarian Judeo-Communist government and ultimately a dictator to implement the Global State.
Any opposition the communists see is labeled “fascism”, and any state they like is called a democracy.
Oh, there is this also:
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
That last little bit was a truism if ever I read one
“When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.”
We do have little opportunity to make a difference most of the meaningful differences in the past 200 years were made at the point of a gun.
garthog42
And that is a big 10-4.
The whole point of the Constitution was to allow REASON to prevail, not religion, or “the system”, or the corruption of long standing family lines.
“Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.”
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
The word “bigot” means someone who’s opinion doesn’t change regardless of the facts, not someone who’s opinion doesn’t match what is politically correct, or is promoted by some religion. In fact, the word itself comes from “Bei Gott”, which is what the Germanics called the Christians when they came into their lands and started teaching the “heathens” original sin.
Good article by the Judge!
Democracy cannot work unless and until those parasites that suppress mankind by encouraging any system that has “voters” take more than they contribute are quarantined from decent folk.
No political system will work unless and until we raise our confront of evil and quarantine the obvious and identifiable psychos – they are contagious on a physical, mental and spiritual level. Taking their current lives does not handle. They need to be quarantined until they can be rehabiitated on all three spheres – physical, mental and spiritual. Technology exists to handle all three spheres. And no, it is not the endless fire of “hell”. They make their own hell and are trying to drag the rest of us into it.
The good thing is that there are not a lot of real bad guys and they are identifiable by their obvious agenda of endless war (where they finance both sides) resulting in impossible debt and a total police state.
Who exactly?
The Rothschild/Rockefeller/Kissinger/Brzezinski/Soros/etc. bankster cult and their fellow degraded beings masquerading as “elite” or “royalty”.
The problem is not the system. The problem is suppressive, criminal personalities that can be identified, quarntined and eventually changed. But they fight like Psychos any technology that attempts to help them or anyone else.
Quarantine them, install a meritocracy and then sometime way in the future get around to helping even these psychos get out of their own personal hell.
Aren’t we supposed to be a Republic?
Well,we started out that way. I think it ended around the time of the Civil War
….that democracy typically degenerated into an ochlocracy is well known. Let the people vote? You mean the criminal weasels of the criminal government? Let them vote on what? More criminality? This is the problem. This is what my story shows…there is no place to go. The earth has been made a poison well. It is a necessary part of human natural life to be able to pack up and split away. You have your clan and I have mine. It is inherent to human nature. But it is impossible to do today. But it is necessary to find a space to start a new because it is impossible to fight the old regime. This country is beyond repair as are most countries. When the people have become evil, evil, evil, evil there is nothing that can be done. Nothing. Proper governing is impossible. It is just corrupt governing. Generations should have seen this coming but just didn’t give a damn. Evil criminals have turned the world into a prison planet.
Democracy is a horrible type of government. When 51% of the people can vote away the personal rights of 49% of the people, there is no freedom.
THATS why this is a REPUBLIC !!
Latest Example? NDAA
Yes Indeed.
The last time I voted I don’t recall voting for ‘The World Government Party’
If you want to see voter fraud get “Uncounted the new math of American elections” from you library or go here “http://uncountedthemovie.com/” its unbelievable how many different was to commit voter fraud. The USA is a CORPORATION and so are almost every country in the world. The NWO IS REAL it is the IMF Rothchilds. One half to 3/4 of the worlds wealth lets you run the world. If we can get Ron Paul in thats a start, but then we must unregister to vote, enough to have a majority unregistered, this takes away the CONSENT of the people legally. Then we can throw out the CORPORATION OF USA INC. and bring back COMMON LAW, LAW NOT LEGAL SYSTEM for the LEGAL SYSTEM is CORPORATION RULES AND REGULATIONS and I am not an employee of USA INC. This country was hijacked by a CORPORATION and we vote for a new CEO not a Common Law President.
I heard the Judge recite this on his show on Fox a while back…. Then I started making it a point
to watch the show… Then I thought to myself, ” I don’t think they’re going to allow this mother
fucker to stay on the air much longer.” Then, super Hebrew, Rupert Murdock made a phone call
to Fox News control and said, “Get that mother fucker off the air post haste.” The End….
Nice to see Judge still getting his word out. Unfortunately he is correct. The vote does not count, otherwise the gov would outlaw it. Think about it. If it REALLY counted, it wouldn’t happen.
Last presidential election I voted for the Constitution party candidate Chuck Baldwin.
Others could have too. A few did. If millions did what I did, imagine Baldwin as president now. What a different America it would be!
Most Americans buy into the “logic” of “the lesser of two evils”.
That’s the problem.
Nowwwwwwwwwwwww he’s catching on, been trying to tell everyone for decades what a useless waste of time voting is.
The term “individual” means 14 Amendment citizen of the United States or resident
alien, thereof. See Immigration Code for definition, which is the only place in US law
that this term is defined. When anyone signs a Voter Registration or purchases a
“firearms” from a Federal Firearms Dealer, they declare under the penalty of perjury that
they are a “United States citizen”. “United States citizen” are Fourteenth Amendments
citizen; that is, freedmen. In Faretta v California, 422 US 806, 850 (1975), the United
States Supreme Court ruled that everyone has the right to make a FOOL of themselves.
Presidential and Senatorial Elections are unCONstitutional. The President is selected by
the Electoral College and Senators are supposed to be appointed by state Assemblies.
What a scam!
If you voted then you participated in FRAUD, having unclean hands and no right to
complaint, in direct violation of the Constitution for the United States of America.
Title 28 USC §3002 (15)(A) states that the United States is “a Federal Corporation”
and not Government, State or Republic, which mean the Judiciary Procedure are
corporate rules. William Dixon v The United States, 1 Marsh 117, 181 (1811), Justice
John Marshall explained that “The United States of America” was a corporation and all of
the politicians were the officers of that corporation.
Abraham Springstein [For all of you Public Educated sheople, “Lincoln”, the
second African President of the United States of America.] set himself up as dictator in
March of 1861. However, the present Federal chartered or corporate “United States”, the
“District of Columbia”, and its ten sub-districts or regions was created February 21, 1871,
16 Statutes at Large 419. The Federal Birth Certificate was created, February 21, 1921,
exactly fifty years later to establish or create Federal children or proceeds of said Federal
corporation, said Certifications are sold daily on the New York Stock Exchange as
chattel. Merrill Lynch, Paine Webber and AG Edwards are the main slave traders on
NYSE. Slave trade was legalized by the CONstitution.
The Bureau of Federal Children was abolished two years after its creation and its
proceeds (Federal children) were turned over to the control of the Department of
Commerce. See Supplement 46 USC §§ 1176 – 1282, where taxpayers are referred to as
“vessels”.