GNN closes it's door's to the public - (Original Article)

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By Marklar
Nov 16th, 2009

So here I am vainly looking far afield for some news to satisfy my news addiction on a Sunday night. I find myself navigating to GNN.tv (Guerrilla News Network) which is one of the first truly alternative news sites that I frequented on the internet. It's not that I no longer frequent GNN but the news cycle can be a little long over there at times so I tend to look at it once a week or so to see if they have anything for me that the other alternative news sites I frequent on a daily basis have missed.

Unfortunately upon entering GNN.tv I am greeted with a notification that GNN is no longer open to the public although the notice does say that registered users can still gain access by signing in.

For a very short time I maintained a blog of my own at GNN and I am a registered user but I abandoned that space for the now defunct infowars network which eventually led myself and many other infowars refugees to establish ourselves here at 12160.org to escape the bandwidth problems on the infowars network which resulted from simply growing too big too fast. So it's been a couple of years and more since I last logged into my GNN account and remembering my username and password there is quite an unlikely proposition.

I am hoping that perhaps they are simply shutting out the public while they recreate themselves in some way but I cannot say for sure. The alternatives, that they are perhaps on the pointy end of a lawsuit or federal interference with the alternative press is something I'd rather not think about until I know for sure what is going on.

While alternative news and blogging were a major part of GNN I suspect that many of us might know them best for the truly great documentaries they produced, from The Diamond Life which focused on the recent brutal history of the diamond trade in Sierra Leone to The Most Dangerous Game which chronicled the struggles and trials of former CIA agent Mark Phillips and the former mind controlled sex slave produced by Project Monarch, Cathy O'brien.

And who knows, if the users at GNN need a new place to call home maybe some of them will even find their way here to 12160.org, bruised, battered and hungry but ready to start a new life of blog slinging dissidence. 12160 is after all little more than a small city that has grown up out of the ashes of an electronic refugee camp. If not then I can only wish you GNNers the best of luck wherever you may roam.

Copyright©2009, Your Mamma

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Comment by Liam Scheff on December 17, 2009 at 1:05pm: GNN Closure:

I'd say it died because it had no boundaries, no ability to move a very hateful commenter off your blog. I wrote a great deal for the site, and had more than several long conversations with site creators and programmers, about putting in a simple filter.

That is, when a GNN'er who was there to sew as much hatred as possible arrived on your doorstep, it was not possible to get on with conversation, let alone do any actual research. The site was also infested with many uncritical religio-scientists (those who defend any lab science over any criticism thereof); so, no conversation about the BS being peddled by the NIH over various epidemic manipulations and scares would get through without being savaged in the most personal of attack language.

And so, I suggested, again and again: Institute a simple 'block' feature, so that when you and some peers want to do some real research, you're able to do so, without three people coming in and posting long insult streams. But. No go.

And when the site finally issued its closing statements, one of the co-creators, Stephen 'silverback' (his GNN name) Marshall, wrote that he might have been naive to think that a site could exist without borders or boundaries (their 'anarchist' philosophy, I suppose?); and that the level of hatred and venom accumulating on the blogs drove people - and advertisers - away quickly, and then in droves.

And that's probably a lot of what happened. Lesson:

Anarchy is silly. Really, really, really silly, and self-destructive.

On the other hand, one big world government is terrifying. I'll settle for a reasonable libertarianism, that argues around the margins between social(ist) programs and un-restrained personal liberty, and some common-sense laws that protect citizens from each other, and the government.

I've enjoyed some of the posts I've seen here at 12160 (what does that mean, by the way?), and so signed up. I especially enjoyed Mr. Marklar's post on the climate hysteria. And another on the doping of poor kids with 'anti-psychotic' drugs.

I posted a great deal of original research on related topics, as well as editorial and satirical pieces on GNN about some of these issues, and met with absolute anger and hysteria. I suppose I was talking to too many of the people now "saving the world" in Copenhagen. Glad they're far away. I hope they'll stay there...

bests,

Liam Scheff
http://liamscheff.com

Comment by Marklar on November 17, 2009 at 4:23am: I don't think it's a pay to view thing. That's more of as big news corp kinda thing. I really can't imagine GNN going that route any more than I can imagine us going that route.

But Adap was telling me we've been getting bombarded with spammers likely paid or directed by someone judging by the sudden volume of it. Maybe ADL or Pentagon or just some weirdos prompted by an article or blog post. Adap had to make the site private for some amount of time to give himself a break from denying their accounts every three seconds so maybe they got the same kind of thing and turtled up to weather the storm.

Then again maybe it was the GNN exodus and Adap barred the gates and threw them back out into the snow with winter closing in ***that bastard!***, jk.

Comment by Swtnlovabl on November 16, 2009 at 11:48pm: Oh man I heard something last week about (News) web sites were going to be pay to view and for the life of me I can't remember were I read that, You may try searching for it, and I will rack my brain and try and remember, I dont know if it has anything to the site u are referring to but it did say ALL...

Comment by youhavetoforgiveme on November 16, 2009 at 11:37pm: ...wish I had more info for you Marklar...let's hope that at least some of them show up here....we will feed and clothe them as best we can ;)