Intelligence gathering at the Post Office - Nothing 'new' here.

USPS 'Mail Covers' - Nothing new with this program. 
 
Going back as far as FDR and WW2 the post office was available to provide such mail monitoring service to law enforcement and the military.  This aspect of US information gathering has never been secret I and others I know have been aware of it for 40 years or more.
 
 
For many years the Post Office was considered to be the largest of the US intelligence services, although of a somewhat limited scope with their being limited to mail.  They were very active during WW2 watching the incoming mail for anyone of questionable loyalty and of course international mail was of prime interest then and even now.
 
 
During the Cold War they used their expertise in screening and finding microdots and 'invisible' writing used by the Soviet and East Block nations.  The Tax Protesters of the 70's and 80's were a prime target for such mail covers and the USPS information was a valuable asset for the IRS and many cases were made via tracking the interlocking relationships of the protesters and the various 'Church Tax Exemptions' that were so popular with that movement.
 
 
Today the USPS are still active and provide valuable info on both domestic and international mail. They have lost their status as largest US intelligence provider - that is now the NSA followed by several other more recent additions to our 'spy' agencies. 
 
 
With the Internet taking over for mail the USPS role is greatly diminished, but they are still part of the greater governmental effort to watch both Citizens and foreign nationals who still use the mail to communicate. 
 
This is an old and established intelligence operation, it may just have been 'discovered' by the media, but it has been with us since the 1940's.

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Comment by Napoleon Van Hardridge on July 6, 2013 at 11:20am

There is an old saying in a movie called THEY LIVED, dude said, " I never follow a man when ' I don't know where' he's going,"  I devoted my energy and time following alex jones  (who banned me from posting)and jordan maxwell, when I did not know, that they where indeed, CONTROLLED OPPOSITION, so .... what am getting YET ... How do you ppl FEEL about alex jones and  jordan maxwell, so that I know  who am following and where am going.

Comment by Napoleon Van Hardridge on July 6, 2013 at 11:04am

I gotto jump on the band wagon on THIS! The usps have been searching through my mail since 1986 -- I was only 19 when it first started! Someone asked for PROVE! that they are doing these things " going through ppls MAIL!" Well, have they ever CLAIMED that they WASN'T! LOL UPS is owned by the MOP, and FEDEX  is owned by they rothschild's like everything else, HELL I would never use fedex because they deliberately destroyed package beucase I complained about my stuff being opened . Now, why would they be going through mail of a 19 year old BLACK-MAIL from 1986 to 2012?  If you can answer this question then you will already be DEAD!

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Comment by ghostmaster on July 5, 2013 at 12:18pm

You do realize that because they are going after mail, email, cell calls, land line calls, Internet usage/postings,  ...

They are probably going after packages like at UPS, and Fedx.  And Bank records, credit cards, plus trips you plan etc.  Nothing is sacred anymore.  Your everyday is watched.

Comment by Elyag Reed...We are Legion on July 5, 2013 at 9:54am

"NOW DAMMIT FOR THE LAST TIME WHERE IS THAT MISSING LETTER. TELL US NOW OR YOU WILL NEVER WORK IN THE POSTAL SERVICE AGAIN".

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Our skilled and vetted (Non government) riders will insure that your Private Mail and Thoughts get to your intended party without being X-rayed, Lasered or Steamed Open by prying government agents and at reasonable rates.

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Comment by consumer activist on July 5, 2013 at 8:20am

Comment by Original Author:

A reader asked about the various UPS stores and security there for Citizens. 

The answer is both Yes and No and is based on my having used such 'stores' multiple times. 

The Yes part is that they do not give out info without a subpeona and of course it is not always law enforcement that can get those.  Someone suing you can easily get a judge to issue a subpeona.  I have over 200 blogs and once I was sued by the major US dept store who served about 14 subpeonas, one on my mail service and the rest on various internet site providers.  So Yes is part of the answer, these stores guard your privacy as best they can.  (FYI:  the suit was tossed out after 23 months in Federal Court in Atlanta)

 

The No part is that any interdiction will come before the mail reaches these stores, so the mail box stores are effectively guarding the checken coop after the fox has been there.

 

One disturbing element I did not touch on because I am not sure how accurate the few stories are is that it has been reported that ALL mail in the US is digitally copies as to the outside information and stored in computers.  It is early days on this aspect of government intrusion into our lives and those 'stories' may just be stories with no basis.  But it is disturbing and seems to go along with the already admitted filing away of our phone usage information.

 

The long term theory here in both phone and mail info storage seems to be that at some unknown time, this or that person, address or phone number 'may' be involved in some sort of activity, perhaps crime or terrorism, and the government can then access its records to see who the person or firm has been communicating with and perhaps use the information to solve a crime or stop a terrorist act.

 

The question here is for our elected representatives to take on and to decide if this is something over and above what has been authorized and if it is, should it be stopped or should additional legislation be put into effect to allow this to continue.

 

Without Mr. Snowden, the Hero or the Traitor (you decide) we would not know of most of this governmental intelligence gathering (called by some 'snooping').  I sorta wish the guy luck but I am also concerned that China and Russia have probably already copied the data on his 4 lap tops. 

 

If you have time you might want to drop by these sites:

  http://impeachobama2013.blogspot.com/ and http://syriaandislam.blogspot.com/

Comment by Dora Hermann on July 5, 2013 at 6:15am

I'm on with Chris! How about getting news to the other countries that are anti-Obama & letting them know that we are too!! Gotta love that story on WND about their views on Obama & his muslim brotherhood fall out! We need to get as tough as the people in Egypt just did! What's that going to take? I know that we are more of about the rule of law & our constitution but how's that working out for us?! The politicians, right & left are more worried about NOT rocking the boat because of elections! We need to rock their boat!! If there's one way to get back what were once OUR allies that would be to get that man on top OUT!! Being spied on in every direction is not news, news would be some stepping out of the box & saying this is what we are going to do about it & him!! I myself am supportive of Sheriff Arpaio & Mike Zullo (birther or not) because they have something that we want!! But as we well know Congress refuses to look because there again that would be rocking the boat!! Citizens of America (black, white, Hispanic etc...) all need to unite before bama gets a chance to make his army even stronger!! What I don't get is how & why people of this country, such as HS, CIA etc...would turn their backs on US! What is their thinking as Americans? or is it that the money is that powerful to them!!

Comment by music71 on July 5, 2013 at 3:11am

what i want to know is what the hell is wrong with this idiot?Why dose he have that much fear of us,that he has to do all this shit. oh i know there is two things going on here with Obama#=1 his on drugs] or #-2 his mental and he need's med's!

Comment by Chris on July 5, 2013 at 1:39am
Not disputing the past "monitoring" done by USPS but stories claiming they're collecting info to this day without any sources, facts, or anything for that matter is just accusations...

How about something informative?
What are they collecting?
Whom are they collecting it from?
How are they collecting that so called info?
What source do we have confirming this?
How would you suggest that we go about changing/stopping this from happening?

Have we gotten so use to the mainstream BS making accusations without any facts that we accept this and think it's ok just as long as it's coming from or side?

...all I know is the USPS has a hard enough time collecting my out going mail let alone collecting useful info on all of us.

Sorry, I just want more than "because I side so" or "trust me". At this point in time we all need to be questioning the things we read and the things we are hear, no matter the messenger.
Comment by Nikki on July 5, 2013 at 12:14am

What about those mailbox stores? Do they provide any privacy? Oh, and never leave your outgoing mail in your mailbox as thieves look for that.

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