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Comment by Chris Katko on February 18, 2014 at 6:09pm

Tara, you might want to go back and read my comments again in relation to Not mainstreamer's uninformed comments, and unwillingness to simply go do the reading instead of bickering away with only wikipedia cut and paste in lieu of a knowledgable argument.

Keep it in context, please.

as far as Koire goes, her work is a waste of time as it is shallow and deceptive.

Follow the links to Raapana's research that I posted above.

How you feel that i am 'coming across " is a result of not being familiar with the material, and misunderstanding the relevance of the material of research being proposed.

Therefore you let the comments bother you.

It seems like a lot of people , even here, would rather get in to endless pissing matches instead of learning from the info posted.

And yeas, it is very Duhmerican. I've lived in a lot of countries, and it seems to be national past time to get easily offended and go back and forth about opinions instead of simply learning the material.

Might have to do with that "false sense of American Exceptionalism" that Putin wrote about in his new york times article.

Comment by Not mainstreamer on February 18, 2014 at 6:02pm

Niki Raapana can say what she wants, not a problem. The problem is how 99% understand "Zionism". They think is about Israel. The Rothschilds are not Jewish, and they don't want to be in Israel. It is too dangerous.

Comment by Tara on February 18, 2014 at 5:59pm

Hello Chris... firstly, thank you for your sharing your artwork here at 12160. You have a talent, especially exposing truths within your art. With that being said, I might be one of those Duhmericans you speak of because I have never read nor heard of Rosa Koire or 'The American Communitarian Movement' and I'm quite sure that I'm not the only one here on 12160.

With all due respect, I do not think you will gain support for your post or positions when being insulting to a member/members. It actually might be a turn off imo and is counter intuitive to the goal of waking someone up that might be unaware of a truth that you are sharing.

To me, you are coming across as putting yourself above others because you are so much smarter than the rest of us 'Duhmericans.' At least that is my perception of things.

Comment by Chris Katko on February 18, 2014 at 5:52pm

Keep thinking on those shallow terms...doesn't mean a damn thing to me if you want to keep fooling yourself because you prefer a couple of Wikipedia entries and the first 60 seconds of one person's speech as opposed to over a decade of research and personal experience on Raapana's part, as well as the many people who have documented the roots of this philosophy and the programs that have been associated with it.

I lived and worked on an Israeli kibbutz, and lived and worked in israel for nearly a year and a half, so you ain't foolin' me. i've been there, done that, lived it,and later studied the system. maybe some 20 somethings down at the local cafe will listen to you and be impressed, but not me.

Cut and paste and orally fart away. It still won't change reality.

Your energy would be better spent putting your ego and preconceptions aside and READING THE RESEARCH.

Comment by Not mainstreamer on February 18, 2014 at 5:49pm

The Israeli/American flag (meaning Israel first) is justified by saying Amitai Etzioni was a "Communitarianism" thinker, and Amitai Etzioni is Jewish :(

What Ann Bressington communicated (in Parlament) (easily verified) is that "Global Warning" was created by a commitee, and the purpose was to justify NWO/Agenda 21 (before the "climate scientist" had any "facts" .. that was produced on demand)

(Niki Raapana seems to accept "Global Warming", but wants us to believe there is no logic in "global solutions". She wants us to believe "communitarian thinking" is a scam by itself - no logic in it)

Comment by Chris Katko on February 18, 2014 at 5:34pm

Spend some time on Niki's site. You'll figure it out. So far you're just posting snippets. It's fast food of the twoofer world.

Your opinion is just farts in the wind, because you haven't done your homework.

How truly Duhmerican of you.

It's almost like you are doing everything possible to avoid actually hunkering down and doing some research.

You keep trying to come up with these clever little assessments of the issue without having any real knowledge of it.

That's why I keep referring you to her site, instead of wasting our time here grasping at straws to make yourself feel smarter.

it all goes so much deeper than these cut and paste comments you keep posting.

Comment by Not mainstreamer on February 18, 2014 at 5:29pm

And "Zionism" is connected to Agenda 21 because of their "communitarian" terminology?

While the term communitarian was coined only in the mid-nineteenth century, ideas that are communitarian in nature appear much earlier. They are found in the Hebrew Bible, the New Testament and more recently in socialist doctrine (e.g. writings about the early commune and about workers’ solidarity) and subsidiarity (the principle that the lowest level of authority capable of addressing an issue is the one best able to handle it). Communitarianism has been traced back to early monasticism, but in the twentieth century began to be formulated as a philosophy by Dorothy Day and the Catholic Worker movement. In an early article the Catholic Worker clarified the dogma of the Mystical Body of Christ as the basis for the movement's communitarianism. Communitarianism is also related to the personalist philosophy of Emmanuel Mounier.    

It is more like being "hijacked" by Agenda 21

Comment by Chris Katko on February 18, 2014 at 5:10pm

I guess you are too lazy to read.

Comment by Not mainstreamer on February 18, 2014 at 5:04pm

http://themindrenewed.com/interviews/2013/327-int030

Interviewer: It is not easy to do (understanding)

Interviewer: I get the feeling "communitarianism" is about philosophy, about change, and a practical way of bringing about change

Niki: (confirming) "communitarianism" is the bigger philosophy .... that combines every philosophy and religion on the planet ... that is why it is so difficult to explain .. they say it is all about balance .. we cannot operate seperately from our community

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Niki has not got everything right. First minute here is making the Agenda 21 scam understandable - no knowledge of philosophy needed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrdmjBAX0E0

Comment by Chris Katko on February 18, 2014 at 4:07pm

Go to niki's site-she has a well organized set up. Lots to learn there.

http://nikiraapana.blogspot.com/

here's a recent interview...

http://themindrenewed.com/interviews/2013/327-int030

Koire appeals to those with average IQ and Duhmerican reading/comprehension skills, which is why she has become trendy, and she leaves out  a lot of the most vital info regarding the philosophy and synthesis of language, thought, and politics regarding the issue.

Raapana's work requires much more grey matter.

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