The Great Debate -- Religion

Jack's original comments from the previous blog, "Let me ask you this... How many other religions offer Eternal Life for FREE given by a risen Savior who is God Himself?"

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Eternal life for free? I do not believe that was the focus of my initial interest or query. Nor do I have the desire to become the backstop to anyone's pontification. I respectfully request to avoid any dogmatic entanglements for the sake of debate. However you are free to say whatever you like, and please, by all means speak candidly.

Here is what I find to be true 99% of the time. Religious followers have a tendency to lock themselves into this figurative room of their cultures religion and presume to know the truth of our existence. From their little room with walls and no skyline they presume to preach "the truth" about the heavens; the truth of our existence and of the world, visions of the future -- all from their little room. Meanwhile, next to them in their little room, is another isolationist locked in their figurative room of their cultures religion, shouting from the doorway their proverbial truth. They all shout so loud from their doors that a funny thing happens. Because they never leave their figurative comfort zone, they never truly see one another. And with all the shouting they never take the time to listen.

They presume to know based on their bias. They blindly grasp at what they want to believe and they miss out on the very thing they so desire to see.

Now anyone here can claim to have studied all of the worlds religions and the history of these religions. They can say they have taken a liberal arts approach. They can stand behind scientific method acknowledging all the while that condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance. They can claim to have covered all bases. Whether that is true or not is reflected in your sentiments often unbeknownst to most others including yourself.

If it is truth you seek, then do not presume to know how to move the earth from an island. However, if it is comfort you seek then stay on that island.

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Comment by Nikki on June 13, 2011 at 3:39pm: So the London Borough Councils just continued the treatment dealt out to children by the British government and the church?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_borough_council

They started sending the Lost Children to Australia in the 1940s up until 1967.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/eastmidlands/series9/week_nine.shtml

Comment by Charles Magus on June 13, 2011 at 2:09pm: Hi Nikki! The Nuns answered to the London Borough Council at that time. So the authority for the drill was given to them by the London council. Yes, they were a special bred. They were the only section of society forced into the Nunnary by their parents, the state and the Catholic Church! Most of them were sadistic Bitches (pardon the Language) who did not want to waste their lives doing that job. Though they would never admit it to themselves. London Borough council couldn't give a crap if they were sadistic! They would do the job when nobody else in England would.

Comment by Cryptocurrency on May 19, 2011 at 4:08pm: I concur.

I am working on the group now.

Comment by Nikki on May 19, 2011 at 3:11pm: @ Krypke, Thomas is correct, they are all connected. But for the purposes of the group you suggest, each topic should be a separate debate. Many of our members have done more research in one particular area than others and therefore you will get a better response, I would think, if topics are very specific. Religion itself is a very broad topic and could be broken down into many various categories, each with its own debate.

Comment by Thomas Gambill on May 19, 2011 at 2:34pm: Puppet masters? Black Pope nr 2. then the Illuminati 13 families (18 Black nobility), Political Zionist all under and guided by the Masonic Conspiracy. each has a role and even the families have assignments

Comment by Cryptocurrency on May 19, 2011 at 2:08pm: Correct, it is all connected. Any thoughts on my comments below? The debate group will give you the opportunity to cover various topics about who the puppet masters are, the history, etc.

Comment by TheLasersShadow on May 19, 2011 at 1:54pm: A debate group sounds good to me

Comment by Thomas Gambill on May 19, 2011 at 1:48pm: Actually its all connected under one conspiracy......All of it is part of this one Luciferian conspiracy and connected. ITs sort of like an octopus with eight arms ......the octopus has one head with eight arms, the conspiracy has one body, mindset and eight different areas of infiltration.

Comment by Cryptocurrency on May 19, 2011 at 1:34pm: The dollar bill is an amalgamation of mystery school symbolism. In God We Trust means one thing to the initiated, and a traditional religious suggestion of faith associated with the dollar for everyone else. It also stirs within us a sense of power and destiny aside from the inherent seduction of greed present in the very nature of money itself. Money becomes an ultimate force of control beyond what most intellectuals can begin to take the time to understand. As with all mystery school symbolism there are many layers so interpretations vary depending on perspective and understanding.

But, I find we are again drifting off topic. You mentioned the dollar so I was going to segue into mystery school teachings and get to the crux of much of the underlying force behind religious reign since antiquity. I do not know if enough has been discussed in order to properly preface the subject. Much could be misconstrued.

I'm taking the liberty of moderating the direction of this discussion for the time being. For the sake of moderation and organization I respectfully request we pick a topic directly relative to religion for discussion. Rules: NO excessive commenting, two people go head to head, comments by others should be concise critiques, short reviews, and commentary for both participants.

Considerations have been made to form an actual debate group. This has become sort of a haphazard beta testing.

Thoughts?

Comment by Thomas Gambill on May 18, 2011 at 10:42pm: The dollar bill......A quick study but not complete.

http://www.theinsider.org/reports/dollar-bill-symbols/

The capstone being place on the top interestingly represents the destruction of the Catholic church once this conspiracy is solidified. The New Age Religion will take its place. It will be worse than any of the movements since the dawn of time maybe only challenged by the Mayan or Nimrods versions.