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Comment by Thomas Gambill on May 17, 2011 at 4:58pm

The opposite is true.  They have separated church and state in the illusion of the history and education of our culture but it is an illusion.  First of all the reality is that the State and the church works together behind the scenes to fool the American public.  The Priesthood controls the government and in the US the government controls the churches by the National Council of Churches that use the 501 C3 tax exempt status as the leverage to literally instruct them what to preach as directed by the Vatican (Priesthood of the World Revolution Planners).  As a matter of fact the Rockefeller foundation controls the National Council of churches (Formerly the Federal Council of Churches).  It is a communist and socialist and subversive organization that goes back even before 1908.   IT funded Billy Sunday and destroyed his life and it funded Billy Graham and has controlled him since 1949.  Graham is a Mason and he is not whom he appears to be in public.   Many are not aware of this outside of the American public.   The clergy who are members of this organization are aware of this scam if they are members of the Council.    Many if not most preachers, pastors, ministers are either Masons or Jesuits and are preaching a controlled message to the churches as directed.     The American public is being scammed. 

 

This is only a sampling of the deception:

 

March 4, 1939 - Quote from a report of the secret committee by President Roosevelt,;  FDR and the US State Dept. worked with the Japanese elite to plan Pearl Harbor in the mid-1920's.    They used Ensign Yamamoto while he went to Harvard as a go between.   Long story short. 

 

FDR said behind closed doors the following:

 

“I am making no concessions to business, or for relief.I have a military machine sufficient to stop any organized revolt. I am putting MY PEOPLE ahead of all instruments.I’ll  have had a full understanding with Chamberlain, and we will destroy this unemployed condition with a WAR, and a WAR only. To Hell with the American people, as far as a Democracy is concerned. It does not exist.  It never did, and we will never let it happen that way. I am going to crush business, infest America with all the aliens possible, and in the last analysis, declare Martial Law, and confiscate everything I need for a true and forceful Dictatorship.My New Deal is a failure, and I know it, but no one else will tell me that I must discontinue my present activities, and program.”  

 

From the Secret Audience with the Military Appropriation Committee;

The Ways and Means Committee;

The Special War Finance Committee;

 

This copy was presented to me by mail through Senator Lundeen.”     “The Red Fog Over America” by William Guy Carr, 1955.  

 

 

 

 

Comment by Cryptocurrency on May 17, 2011 at 3:46pm

Nikki said:

"@Krypke, then the question becomes how much government. At the present, we have way too much of it.  The US is a secular government, not a communist one (at least not yet) and I certainly would not want to live in a theocracy.  As for morality, some believe it comes from religion while others believe it comes from our humanity.  Philosophy and history I agree are very important. Unfortunately in the US, philosophy has been replaced by pop culture and our history has been revised and sanitized.  Is there now or at some time in the past a government that you would consider a model where the four pillars were in harmony?"

 

The U.S government is secular as is our culture. And the U.S is not communist YET, however the world government will be. The U.N's proposed government for the world would be (loosely) modeled after China.

 

Morality comes from humanity yes. Religion is suppose to provide the backdrop for moral accountability. Religion should teach us and keep us morally fit. Philosophy, through the study of ethics does provide a very similar understanding, although it puts morals and proper ethics into question by the individuals standards and sensitivity. So an ethics class, for example, would debate right from wrong where religion tells you through commandments or rules; they are already defined and made law by God himself -- not subject to debate from a philosophical standpoint.

 

As far as societies go, and the four pillars, I would say America at various times has come close. Through out history  there have been other examples. Greece at one time was very similar to this accept they spent so much time with education and thinking of how it should all work that they forgot to protect their society and eventually they were conquered.

 

Laser said:

"Your premise that religion keeps Government moral is flawed though I understand where your coming from as it use to be true."

 

I didn't quite mean that religion keeps government moral. That would be the responsibility of the citizenry. The separation of church and state is paramount and another part of the checks and balances against tyranny.

Comment by Thomas Gambill on May 16, 2011 at 7:34pm

Jack, I'm losing close friends one by one due to their challenging the truth about Jesus.  They are heading to the Universalist and New age hybrid direction.   literally making a 180 degree changes.  Just talked to someone today and his wife of 22 years just up and left because he was Jew and decided to follow Jesus or so he said.     Something is going on.  Also the underground is calling for a n arming of patriots and vets to fight......oh my.

Comment by Thomas Gambill on May 16, 2011 at 9:56am

The Illuminati has the reigns on both sides.   The Hegelian Dialectic is coming.   The Illuminati/Jesuits have planned the destruction and elimination of the Vatican, Islam, Christianity and absolute Atheism at the same time.   It is firmly documented that this Luciferian theology will pretend to also eliminate Satanism and sacrifices of humans and evil plus routing themselves to include the bankers, et al.   It will be ruse to bring in the most evil of them all, the New Age Movement planned by Albert Pike and Helena Blavatsky back in the 1880's.     The 1960's launched this movement right under our noses.    Hitler studied Blavatsky daily since she formed this theology by channeling the ascended masters/fallen angels to fool mankind.   Now, it is time to shed the Evil religion, which was designed by Satan/Lucifer, to fool mankind, start wars, money, and hide the truth about Jesus Christ.   It is the Hegelian Dialectic in its classic form.    Thesis = evil religion; Anti-thesis = New Age or 4th Reich.    Synthesis = acceptance of the Luciferian New Age Religion.   Atheist will be forced to worship Lucifer or be executed literally according to the New Age Luciferians.  

 

 

Comment by underthemachine on May 16, 2011 at 6:16am

I have been a Christian, a Pagan, a Satanist, a Buddhist.  I studied Islam(and yes for a short time thought this might be right for me until further study) And studied the Kabbalah (again its beauty and magic was seductive but ultimately i rejected this too).  Most of these mystical exploration occurred before the age of 15.  At 28 I consider myself to be an atheist who appreciates his Pagan roots.

I love the earth, and the earth in return has been very good to me.  While i understand there is no magical connection, there is a connection yet.  We are symbiotic, not all humans are symbiotic, but me and the earth are.  Do i believe its a she or he, absolutely not. The relationship is beyond those labels.   Do i feel like i have a brother in the earth, yes, but most likely this is debris from my yearning for the spiritual.  There is none, and at my most logical moments i accept this.

I think in the end, when less people around me are spouting about magic and miracles, and correlating events with spiritual happenings i will be able to cast off this debris and join with others in working towards the one truth that exists. " We are in this together, this is all we have and we must to make the best of it".

Ps.  I must wonder, does the existence of a devil make it easier for people to feel different from those religious extremist who decapitate on film, beat their wives and stone them?  Does it allow an American to feel superior, and incapable of such acts believing they are theologically not tainted with the poison as opposed to knowing they could be capable of such acts if they had lived in a similar environment all their lives?

Comment by Nikki on May 13, 2011 at 3:32pm

Charles, I suppose there weren't enough nuns in England.  I admit I got hooked on the Tudors

http://bbcamerica.com/content/424/about-tudors.jsp

 

but I just love watching Henry VIII and all his shenanigans esp permanently changing the religion of England.  I do love watching him defy Rome and watching them squirm - that someone could actually stand up to them, oh my, that was a big step in those days.

But what a coincidence, the Catholic school I went to in Texas also brought in nuns from Ireland!  I guess they're a special breed, you think?  Why in the world did they even possess a dentist drill?  Who allowed them to do that?  Who was in charge?  Did the parents find out and, if so, what did they do about it?  What sadistic monsters.

Comment by Charles Magus on May 13, 2011 at 2:54pm

Ahh Thank you Nikki!    Though I wasn't in Ireland at the time, my school wasin England, though the majority of the Nuns were Irish.  I am not sure if you ever saw the film Maration man.  About a Nazi War Criminal that was hiding diamond,  He tortured this man (Dustin Hoffman) with a Dentist Drill, Drilling into Live and healthy teeth!  Well, that is exactly what was done to us!  Perfectly heathy teeth were destroyed by Nuns with a dentist drill and No pain killers what-so-ever.  I agree with what you say entirely!  The Vatican has to be shut down and the money used to help its Millions of Victims!   the End of the Vatican is in sight!   Religion, the control of the people will end!

 

Love the Hugs Bear!  Thank you!  You are a Beautiful Soul!

 

Comment by Nikki on May 13, 2011 at 2:21pm

Charles, I have been following the Catholic Church scandal in Ireland for years.  I'm so sorry you were in one of their schools.  I went to Catholic school too although it was nothing compared to what happened in Ireland and of course we left at 3pm every day.  Still some of the nuns were quite mean and one of the priests was in love with my beautiful mother.  I did hear things though, they were absolutely obsessed with sex.  Going through their system really screws people up, I've seen so much evidence of it over the years.  I also attribute a lot of problems I had on it as well.  Now I know why you and I have the same thoughts on religion.  I agree about Vatican cover ups.  We think we know so much much about what happened in the US, Mexico, Ireland, Australia and many other countries but I'm sure it's just the tip of the iceberg.  The only honorable thing for them to do is close their doors forever, sell all their assets, and reimburse all the victims.  Of course that still wouldn't be enough for all the damage they've done in 2000 years, but at least it would end here and now.  Ah, wishful thinking on my part but we know the evil is still happening as we speak.  You're awesome, dude.

Comment by Charles Magus on May 13, 2011 at 12:52pm

That is ok Vincent, I thought you meant Thomas, but mistook his comments for mine.  :-)

Comment by Charles Magus on May 13, 2011 at 11:58am

Thank you Nikki!  I understand exactly what you mean about growing up with religion.  I was at a convent school when I was young and they were amongst the most evil  beings I had ever met! They were Irish Nuns!  They made the Gestapo look tame!  It was strange that the English nuns never behaved like that!  Maybe it was because they had Catholicism beaten into them by their parents?  One nun almost killed a boy through the beatings he got within the first 24 hours.  He didn't know he couldn't get up when he wanted to.

 

Ireland was controlled by the Chatholic Church Early on and was ruled with an Iron fist!  And no don't you have heard about the awful things that the priests did to the Children in their care.  Absolutely sickening!

 

The Vatican Church covered up all the crimes that happened in Ireland!  Could you imagine what they are covering up in the Vatican??

 

I do not believe in ramming religion down people's throats.  I have no faiths as such, if anyone wants to be in tune with the Cosmic Source, you can always find that within. You don't need a church for that.  That is something that they do not want you to know, otherwise it would be the end of all their income.

 

Thank you for you comments Nikki!  You are a wonderful Human Being!  May you find Inner peace always.

 

Namaste!

Charles. 

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