Jack's original comments from the previous blog, "Let me ask you this... How many other religions offer Eternal Life for FREE given by a risen Savior who is God Himself?"

 

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Eternal life for free? I do not believe that was the focus of my initial interest or query. Nor do I have the desire to become the backstop to anyone's pontification. I respectfully request to avoid any dogmatic entanglements for the sake of debate. However you are free to say whatever you like, and please, by all means speak candidly.

 
Here is what I find to be true 99% of the time. Religious followers have a tendency to lock themselves into this figurative room of their cultures religion and presume to know the truth of our existence. From their little room with walls and no skyline they presume to preach "the truth" about the heavens; the truth of our existence and of the world, visions of the future -- all from their little room. Meanwhile, next to them in their little room, is another isolationist locked in their figurative room of their cultures religion, shouting from the doorway their proverbial truth. They all shout so loud from their doors that a funny thing happens. Because they never leave their figurative comfort zone, they never truly see one another. And with all the shouting they never take the time to listen.

 

They presume to know based on their bias. They blindly grasp at what they want to believe and they miss out on the very thing they so desire to see.

 

Now anyone here can claim to have studied all of the worlds religions and the history of these religions. They can say they have taken a liberal arts approach. They can stand behind scientific method acknowledging all the while that condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance. They can claim to have covered all bases. Whether that is true or not is reflected in your sentiments often unbeknownst to most others including yourself.

 

If it is truth you seek, then do not presume to know how to move the earth from an island. However, if it is comfort you seek then stay on that island.

 

 

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Comment by Charles Magus on May 12, 2011 at 10:22am

I am not interested in any credibility!  I couldn't give a rat's arse what people think,  They can think what ever fancy takes their minds.  I am not going to spend another 2 years looking for that evidence that I saw,  I have spent 8 years going through vast amounts of information and evidence in that time.  I am not going to search for everything connected with Jesus.  I could not store ever single file I saw, read or watched!  I would need 10 seperate powerful computers to store them all,  I only have one.  

 

All you need to do is know that there is something that is the source of all life not just in this universe, but in all of them.  You don't need to follow a book in an extremist fundamentalist fashion.

Some of it is created by the hands of true decent men that just tried to bring what truths they held.   Other parts of the bible were added by zealots that were guided by the same sinister evil forces that control and run the Catholic Church.   There is a secret room under the Vatican that hosts Child slaughter that is referred to as Sacrifice.  Embedded deep into the floor of this secret room is a grooved gold pentagram where the blood flows through at the time of the sacrifice.  This kind of shit has to be exposed and stopped!

 

I will not be discussing anything further in this debate.  I am far too busy with deeply more important things, than to be wasting valuable time discussing how correct the bible is or isn't.

 

Get on with living your lives and standing up for yourselves and others.  Treat others with Love and Respect, support one another and stand a one united.  Live from the Heart each and everyday, do not tolerate injustice or corruption.

 

Peace and Blessings to all.

Charles.
Comment by Marklar on May 12, 2011 at 9:56am

I don't understand how religion could be a debate at all when the nature of the subject matter inherently means that:

 

A. Anything can be believed.

B. Nothing can be proven.

 

To me that makes it a pissing match of opinions rather than a debate of any kind.

Comment by Charles Magus on May 12, 2011 at 9:54am
To Andy.  It is not exactly a he, or a she,  It has the attributes of both, yet is neither.  It is pure creation, it is pure unconditional Love.  It is the basis of all Religions throughout all the universes.  Some call it the Prime Creator!  There are other Creators, but they are the ones instructed by the Prime.
Comment by Thomas Gambill on May 12, 2011 at 9:18am
at charles:   I'm waiting for you sources concerning your errant description about Jesus.   Your credibility hangs in the balance.
Comment by Thomas Gambill on May 12, 2011 at 9:11am
The evil lies in the Roman Catholic church, deep inside the Vatican, from Constantine to the enforcing arm of the Jesuits and their goal of world domination, along with the Synagogue of Satan, the zionist, and the 13 Illuminati families, glued together by this Masonic Luciferian agenda.
Comment by Thomas Gambill on May 12, 2011 at 9:07am
The RIng of Power is only scratching the surface and the ones that have set up this ring of power has lost already.    Lucifer/Satan is the controller of the Ring of Power and he lost the war when Jesus suffered, died and was resurrected as the savior for all surrender to the will of the Father in Heaven through Jesus.    This I'm afraid is non-negotiable.   You say open mind, well, when one discovers truth why remain open to deception.  The elites that worship and follow Lucifer has already lost.
Comment by Thomas Gambill on May 12, 2011 at 9:04am
It not not even a fight between two sides.   One side has a major advantage of at least a 240 year head start and every objective they planned ahead for has happened.       A little mystery added to the mix.    This side that has controlled the world's population is totally organized and is at least 50 to 100 years ahead of known technology and has world class standing military not only entrenched inside the US but other countries as well.  This mystery side has weaponized weather, earthquakes and controls all resources, communications and economic resources.    Now, do the math.   This I speak of comes complete with irrefutable evidence that I have tried as many others before this generation of truth tellers have tried to warn the public about but hard headed sheeple won't listen and now the time to pay the piper is just about here.
Comment by Andy Anduer on May 12, 2011 at 9:00am
O.k. so we are talking about the God of the universe that created all things, what religion is He?
Comment by Charles Magus on May 12, 2011 at 6:50am

Would Thomas be able to handle the truth if it hit him??    I think his mind is so set in stone on a book that was put together nearly 2000 years ago, that he would have fit!  Whereas I keep an open mind.

We all have our own set of beliefs, we aquire this information throughtout life from various sources.  Some people will hold on to a belief and not accept anything that challenges their beliefs.  With me, if it can be shown clearly that what I was holding on to was wrong, I would change those beliefs.

 

 Here is a 5 hour piece of proof.  But you can bet your ass I have seen thousands of pieces of evidence that prove what I have been saying.

 The Ring of Power!

Comment by Charles Magus on May 12, 2011 at 5:41am

I am in total agreement with your comment about what this country would look like with out the drug war.  

 

Why is America being dictated to by the biggest scum and villany on the planet,

Aparhteid Genocidal Zionist Israel!  Why all your tax dollars go to a private Rothschild family bank called the Federal Reserve!  Even the IRS was created to pay a volentary tax on the tax of the interest on the loan  (Not passed by all the states so not a legal tax and is written against in the constitution)

Fluoride is one of the greatest evils in America that helps keep the masses dumbed down and compliant!  That and Television!!!

 

They are not the choosen people of God! They Never Were!  They were chosen by something totally Evil, either Demonic or Extraterrestial.  You would have to ask the top of the pyramid Loon Zionist that question to know for sure! Because I think the one at the top of this pyramid is one of the latter.

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