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Comment by DTOM on July 17, 2015 at 5:28am

LP -  Shively uses communism in reference to 'the system', and believes that those that choose to work through / co-operate / participate / play the game - with said system - reap what they sew.

Truth - I agree that Shivley does get wound up very easily - although he has raised a valid point with his objection to co-opting of militias / private individual patriot volunteers when the state stamps on private commercial ventures who chose to play by the rules of the PTB.

LTR were trying to get Visner on for comment. 

Comment by truth on July 16, 2015 at 3:06pm

from personal experience Henry Shivley an angry emotional wreck, logic often escapes the man... just saying. And, for what it is worth, Michigan militia no longer supporting Ted. Have some contacts there working on more info...stay tuned

Comment by Less Prone on July 15, 2015 at 8:54am

There is a huge leap of logic from private property rights to linking Ted Visner to communism that I cannot quite follow. Ted certainly is bringing forward his side of the story and may be leaving out something he considers irrelevant or harmful to his case. He may even lie. At first it certainly looks like he has been used and betrayed. Now could the police and the court use and betray people? I believe they could.

Comment by DTOM on July 15, 2015 at 2:18am

Via: http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/the-videos-first-shots-of...

Posted on July 14, 2015 by Henry Shivley

Today it is revealed Ted Visner is building a commercial property, in specific “A shelter for battered women”.  This means Ted aimed to get his business through the unconstitutional treasonous family courts that are as much a part of the communism as any other aspect.

This is no different than the corporate miners in Galice, Oregon.  These people think they can use our militias as a strong arming tactic to gain an advantage in the communist system that they are willing participants in.  They think that all they have to do is put on a hat with a Gadsden emblem on it and our people will back their play.  

Ted would have people with nothing, who have nothing because they have refused to cooperate and participate in this communist treason, die to bolster and protect his own participation and financial interests.  This has nothing to do with due process of the law, as it was not born within the common law.

Ted got in bed with the enemy and now he doesn’t like the way things are turning out.

From the Trenches will not be used to back the play of charlatans and users like Ted Visner in their effort to get a leg up in the corporate communist fraud.  And make no mistake, old Ted would not risk his property for your life or your rights if you were under the gun in a legitimate conflict involving your Bill of Rights.