Understanding Islam, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran and The War On Terror
I tried to make this point on another thread but failed miserably and was attacked by the copy and paste bandit. I maintain the accuracies of my statements.
I have three close friends that I talk with frequently, some more then others. One lives in Lahore, Pakistan, a doctor and we speak daily; one lives in the UK, a smitten intellectual; and one lives in the UK half the year and Pakistan the other half; a prolific internet author. (feel free to Google Charles Ferndale, he'd appreciate it)
Two are Muslims and the one that isn't is an expert on Islam.
5 suicide bombings in the past two weeks and 100+ dead.
My friend in Lahore was born and raised there, always a Muslim. My friend in the UK was once a Catholic (he must have been possessed) and now a Muslim (struck with clarity I would assume). My friend, the prolific writer is an Atheist.
They all proclaim the same thing, Islam is a peaceful religion.
Yet we are bombarded with mainstream impressions that equate Muslim extremism with Islam and paint a very different picture of what reality may be. In fact, with Muslims suicide bombing Mosques one would get the distinct impression that they're very violent people. What's up with that?
A fourth friend, Gordon Duff, another prolific internet author and ex-marine Special Forces puts it all into perspective. Here's a quote from Gordon:
"The root of the problems in the region are historical in nature. Unless you go back 200 years or more, something we aren’t doing here, nothing will make sense. The region, Af-Pak, is acreation, primarily of Britain’s, seemingly created out of a design to stimulate instability and conflict to enable “the great game” Britain is famous for to be played, one side against the other. In 1893, when Afghanistan and India/Pakistan were split by Durand, dividing tribes and even families, continual war was guaranteed. In 1947, when Pakistan was created out of a group of peoples, roughly “Islamic” but otherwise unrelated, we were guaranteed even more instability. Pakistan would be a combination of advanced culture, warlike tribes and resentful quasi-independent regions constantly at odds with their powerful neighbor, India."
People easily forget that these areas of the globe were bordered arbitrarily by western colonialism which reached its peak when the borders were delineated. Those borders aren't recognized by the people that live there making these places we in the west refer to as countries not really countries at all. As I said, that's a point I failed to make on another thread but still maintain its accuracy.
The US is a well delineated country whose border is acknowledged and respected not only by the international community but by the people that live here. The UK is the same. Canada too.
Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Uzbekistan, Tajikstan and Turkmenistan have delineated borders outlined and mapped by Britain, not by the people that live there and although we here in the west reference those borders and refer to the areas by the country names they've taken the people that live there do not recognize those borders as anything other then a line drawn on a map. Their governments may recognize them but we are not our government and our government is not us. The people there don't know from borders.
Now, we have Muslims bombing Mosques, or so we're told by the media.
Yet my good friends tell me that a true Muslim, even a moderate Muslim but certainly a devout Muslim would NEVER bomb a Mosque. I believe that's true. We haven't had one incidence, ever, of Christians bombing churches nor have we had any incidents of Jews bombing temples, except for one deviation from that concept.
Mossad has been caught in South America dressed as South Americans, disguised, and bombing their own Jewish temples. They've also been caught, again disguised as Muslims, bombing places of interest in the UK. MI5 agents were caught in Iraq dressed as Arabs in possession of explosives and although the incident hit the media it also quickly disappeared.
Conclusion:
The terror bombings in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and Tajikstan whose borders aren't recognized by the people who live there are false flag operations by MI5, Mossad, the CIA, ISI, RAW and the Chinese and Russian intelligence agencies all of whom have vital business interests in these areas and are using Islam to foment terror and discord to maintain instability with the eventual desire to redraw borders to aid commerce in natural resources for profit.
Islam is no more or less peaceful then Christianity. Believers in these two religions MUST unite because they have the same enemy and that enemy is powerful, global and capable.
I have three close friends that I talk with frequently, some more then others. One lives in Lahore, Pakistan, a doctor and we speak daily; one lives in the UK, a smitten intellectual; and one lives in the UK half the year and Pakistan the other half; a prolific internet author. (feel free to Google Charles Ferndale, he'd appreciate it)
Two are Muslims and the one that isn't is an expert on Islam.
5 suicide bombings in the past two weeks and 100+ dead.
My friend in Lahore was born and raised there, always a Muslim. My friend in the UK was once a Catholic (he must have been possessed) and now a Muslim (struck with clarity I would assume). My friend, the prolific writer is an Atheist.
They all proclaim the same thing, Islam is a peaceful religion.
Yet we are bombarded with mainstream impressions that equate Muslim extremism with Islam and paint a very different picture of what reality may be. In fact, with Muslims suicide bombing Mosques one would get the distinct impression that they're very violent people. What's up with that?
A fourth friend, Gordon Duff, another prolific internet author and ex-marine Special Forces puts it all into perspective. Here's a quote from Gordon:
"The root of the problems in the region are historical in nature. Unless you go back 200 years or more, something we aren’t doing here, nothing will make sense. The region, Af-Pak, is acreation, primarily of Britain’s, seemingly created out of a design to stimulate instability and conflict to enable “the great game” Britain is famous for to be played, one side against the other. In 1893, when Afghanistan and India/Pakistan were split by Durand, dividing tribes and even families, continual war was guaranteed. In 1947, when Pakistan was created out of a group of peoples, roughly “Islamic” but otherwise unrelated, we were guaranteed even more instability. Pakistan would be a combination of advanced culture, warlike tribes and resentful quasi-independent regions constantly at odds with their powerful neighbor, India."
People easily forget that these areas of the globe were bordered arbitrarily by western colonialism which reached its peak when the borders were delineated. Those borders aren't recognized by the people that live there making these places we in the west refer to as countries not really countries at all. As I said, that's a point I failed to make on another thread but still maintain its accuracy.
The US is a well delineated country whose border is acknowledged and respected not only by the international community but by the people that live here. The UK is the same. Canada too.
Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Uzbekistan, Tajikstan and Turkmenistan have delineated borders outlined and mapped by Britain, not by the people that live there and although we here in the west reference those borders and refer to the areas by the country names they've taken the people that live there do not recognize those borders as anything other then a line drawn on a map. Their governments may recognize them but we are not our government and our government is not us. The people there don't know from borders.
Now, we have Muslims bombing Mosques, or so we're told by the media.
Yet my good friends tell me that a true Muslim, even a moderate Muslim but certainly a devout Muslim would NEVER bomb a Mosque. I believe that's true. We haven't had one incidence, ever, of Christians bombing churches nor have we had any incidents of Jews bombing temples, except for one deviation from that concept.
Mossad has been caught in South America dressed as South Americans, disguised, and bombing their own Jewish temples. They've also been caught, again disguised as Muslims, bombing places of interest in the UK. MI5 agents were caught in Iraq dressed as Arabs in possession of explosives and although the incident hit the media it also quickly disappeared.
Conclusion:
The terror bombings in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and Tajikstan whose borders aren't recognized by the people who live there are false flag operations by MI5, Mossad, the CIA, ISI, RAW and the Chinese and Russian intelligence agencies all of whom have vital business interests in these areas and are using Islam to foment terror and discord to maintain instability with the eventual desire to redraw borders to aid commerce in natural resources for profit.
Islam is no more or less peaceful then Christianity. Believers in these two religions MUST unite because they have the same enemy and that enemy is powerful, global and capable.
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Comment by fireguy on March 15, 2010 at 2:25pm
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"How could so many people be wrong?"
If you go by the numbers here you go.
http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html
But numbers of people believing something does not make it true, just look at how many believe that our government is good.
Satan is using the NWO to wage war against humanity because he hates us period end of story.
I never said anything about religious wars.
If the elite actually followed the teachings of their professed religions there would be less BS for all of us to deal with that is why I say they are not really Christians or whatever.
"Why would an intellegent individual not explore..." You must assume that I haven't to make a statement like that. You sure read a lot into comments and come up with wild conclusions about where and how someone came to faith and what they believe. Maybe you are the one who is propagandized and brainwashed. For someone who proclaims tolerance and compassion you seem really biased against Christians.
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Comment by Jeff on March 15, 2010 at 1:49pm
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Why would an intelligent individual not explore Islam and Catholicism just as easily as Christianity? They both have just as many firm and committed believers. You make it sound like all the Catholics and all the Muslims have been deceived and chose the wrong religion. How could so many people be wrong?
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OK. Like I said I'll not preach to you and the offer still stands.
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ALL religions have a place in our world. They give people balance and hope, they provide guidance and a path of righteousness.
My religion, Atheism, is no different. I don't understand why you would consider it any different then other personal beliefs.
I find it interesting that people the world over all have identical faith in their chosen religion.
A Muslim, a Catholic and a Jew believe just as strongly and positively as you do that their chosen religion is the right one. Just like you. BUT you KNOW yours is the right one. Funny thing is, so do they.
That's not interesting to you?
By the way, Atheism has nothing to do with the road we're on. That's truly a misconception. There are Atheists everywhere, morally stern, ethically true people, no less then Christians.
This isn't a war against religion. You just think it is. It's a war against humanity and the removal of religion has nothing to do with it, you just think it does. I wouldn't entertain belief in Christianity any more then I'd entertain belief in World Government. Both imprison people. What you fail to understand is that the elite are Jews, Christians, Muslims and other religions too. You're blinded by belief and you're not considering reality. The elite aren't playing the religious card. It has nothing to do with their agenda. Some of them believe and some don't. It's not part of their game.
The only religion I might even begin to entertain, after about 30 years as a Jew and 25 as a Christian would be that dead one that once belonged to the Native American Indians before they were indoctrinates and propagandized into Christianity. At least they believe in things worthy, nature, mountains, rivers and streams as opposed to false idols like Jesus and God.
Thanks for the offer and I'm proud to be your friend but we'll disagree on this subject until we die and then, and only then will we know who was right.
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Man, Jeff for an athiest you sure post a lot of articles about religion.
The Governments are the ones who are screwed up not the people.
I agree that Islam can be a peaceful religion. Right now it is hard to demonstrate that in Islamic controlled countries but then again it is the governments that are the culprits not the people.
Our Government is not Christian anymore than Iran's or Pakistan's is Islamic or India's Hindu or China's Buddist. It may have been founded by Christians but we are fast becoming an agnostic/athiestic/humanistic nation and are reaping what we have sown. Economic collapse and moral decadence.
Uniting religions is just what the NWO wants you to think is the answer to our problems. That is Satan's plan and that will become evident when the Anti-Christ makes peace in Israel. It will be a false peace for 3.5 years and then he will set himself up in Jerusalem as a tin god. People all over the earth will worship him and fall for the deception to their loss. Remember all of this and watch it happen if you live long enough.
You can accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior or you can go on betting that you are correcyt and there is no God and your sins don't need to be forgiven.
I am not going to continue preaching to you. If you want you can send a message to me and we can continue in private. Or, contact any of the other Christians on this site and I am sure they would be glad to make the same offer.
I am responding here out of love for you and anyone else who reads this. Not from some holier or better than you point of view but because I truly believe that Christ is the answer. And I am not ashamed of His Gospel.
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