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Comment by Hilary Sandow on February 17, 2015 at 1:26am

DTOM, There is not a single organized group engaging in classic civil disobedience.  But most of the people engaging in activism are aware that the situation is untenable, that good moral people should not put up with this situation, and so they take action through peaceful non-compliance.  By most people I mean 99.99+%.  One definition for someone who is protesting or engaging in civil disobedience IS that they are peaceful.  It is a prerequisite.  One you engage in violence, then you are not longer protesting.  You are fighting.  But the fighting we see happening around protests is not coming from even frustrated protesters, but from agents provocateur.  

I don't agree that the protesters are responsible for the tyrants stepping up their tyranny.  We have already endured more animal farm-esque incrementalism that any healthy society should have.  We should have engaged in massive public non-compliance actions LONG ago.  AND activism is inspiring.  It is a big moral boost to talk with other people who see what you see going on in your society and in the world and who agree that it is wrong and who are on the same page about doing something about it.  Activism builds social networks and support groups.  Fr this alone, it is very worth while.  But ultimately, large groups of protesters are EASILY infiltrated by moral worms who are paid to initiate violence against the police, so it becomes a liability that outweighs any positive response earned by the public, even on the rare occasions when your message can make it out to the public through the bought-and-paid-for mainstream press.

One major problem with violence as the solution is that there are a LOT of criminals, thugs and sickos who have no interest inn your cause who simply want to engage in violence for violence's sake.  If you plan a revolution by way of force, you will spend more time dealing with them than with the minions of the tyrants.  If you think the gloves come of when people protest... then by your own logic, violent revolution will would remove the gloves, the hands and the person and open the door to ALL the weapons.  (Electrical power being cut, food trucks stopping, water being turned off, drone strikes, bioweapons, etc...) 

The revolution must be a rLOVEution.


Tribe of Dan, I vote in every election, even the primaries.  I simply vote third party or write-in.  I have ZERO expectation that voting will solve the problem.  NONE.  However, I still do it because it forces the tyrants to steal the elections.  I would rather force them to steal it rather than hand it to them.  Plus, it allows me to tell anyone who is stupid enough to say things like, "If you don't vote then you have no right to voice your opinion" to SDaStFU.  I also get the opportunity to talk to people who live in my area and to pass out DVDs.

You cannot sit back and say that the system is corrupt and do nothing and then expect someone else to fix it or that those who do will have your interests at heart.  There is NO question that violent revolution is coming.  No question.  The mainstream news media can propaganda the public and create a violent emotional reaction from them about ANY subject at ANY time. 

The ONLY chance we have at preventing the tyrants from controlling their opposition is by being leaders ourselves.  Those of us with the power of foresight have the responsibility to offer our wisdom to our fellow citizens.  (with power comes responsibility).  And the more preparation we do now, the more outreach we do, the more we interact with other members of our community, the more respect we earn and the more they will listen to us when the crazy starts.  We need to preposition ourselves now as community leaders so that we can direct the revolution toward the actual tyrants and not, as the tyrants would have it, towards each other.  I promise you, the tyrants know that a revolution is coming. They have operatives of their own prepositioned, ready to steer public frustration and anger and violence so that we end up fighting our neighbors, our fellow citizens and our own communities.

Comment by DTOM on February 12, 2015 at 7:31am

Peaceful civil disobedience (as it is in current form with people finally awakening to the threats of GMOs, vaccinations, the state seeing you, your family and all you posess as THEIR property) will only result in the velvet glove being removed from the iron fist, and the those that enslave us openly exercising total force.

This can be seen with laws being rushed into NYC, the purchase of more arms and material for the militarized police - the enforcers and private mercenaries of the power elite.

All of the boxes of freedom and liberty - soap box, ballot box, jury box - have been exhausted, to no avail.

Bar one.

The cartridge box.

Who must pay the price?

The 3%, those that defiantly say 'NO!" and back it up with force of arms, as it always is...and those that seek total control over us.