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Is Harry Reid Involved? Seven Answers to Seven Questions You’re Probably Asking Right Now About the Nevada Rancher Situation
MESQUITE, NV – APRIL 11: Rancher Cliven Bundy poses for a picture outside his ranch house on April 11, 2014 west of Mesquite, Nevada. (Getty Images)
Government officials retreated Saturday from federal property in Gold Butte, Nev., leaving behind some 389 “trespass cattle” that had been impounded as the result of a decades-long dispute between a local rancher and the U.S. government.
But while the story has managed to capture the attention of thousands of Americans, it has also managed to confuse thousands more. Indeed, from questions regarding property rights to whether a Democratic senator was involved in the cattle roundup, many have been left wondering what it’s all about and searching for the facts.
So in an effort to provide some clarity on the ongoing developments in Gold Butte, here are some answers to the seven main questions people have asked about the decades-long fight between 67-year-old rancher Cliven Bundy and the federal government:
7. Does Sen. Harry Reid have a connection to the Bureau of Land Management?
In a way, yes.
The new head of the Bureau of Land Management recently served as senior policy adviser to Nevada’s Democratic Sen. Harry Reid.
Neil Kornze, 35, left Reid’s office (where he managed public land issues) in 2011 to join the Bureau of Land Management as senior adviser to the director. He later became the deputy director for policy and in 2013.
The U.S. Senate then voted 71-28 on April 8, 2014, to confirm Kornze as the new director of the agency.
6. Is Harry Reid working with the Chinese to force the Bundys out?
The facts don’t support it.
Reid and his son, Rory, were both deeply involved in a deal with the Chinese-owned ENN Energy Group to build a $5 billion solar farm in Laughlin, Nevada. But that is roughly 177 miles away from Bundy’s 150-acre ranch in Bunkerville, Nev., and 213 miles from the federally owned Gold Butte area where Bundy ‘s cattle graze, according to .
Image source: Google Maps
It’s worth noting that Rory Reid is the former chair of the Clark County commission (Clark County is located near the Gold Butte area). He left in 2011 to work for a Las Vega law firm representing ENN.
But despite the Reids’ best attempts to secure the land for ENN, and despite the Bureau of Land Management expressing concerns that “trespass cattle” could complicate plans to use land in the Gold Butte area for “offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development,” it was all in vain: The Chinese company eventually shelved the project in June 2013 when it failed to find a customer. The deal is over and the proposed construction will not happen.
5. So Who Owns the Land in Question?
The federal government owns the disputed land and has claimed ownership since before Nevada even joined the union, according to a 2013 U.S. District Court ruling.
“[T]he public in Nevada are the property of the United States because the United States has held title to those public lands since 1848, when Mexico ceded the land to the United States,” the ruling states, confirming the federal government’s longstanding claim that it lawfully acquired ownership of the land under the Treaty of the Guadalupe Hidalgo.
The court rejected Bundy’s repeated claim to having an intergenerational right to use the land as invalid and said his arguments against federal ownership carry no legal weight.
“Bundy has produced no valid law or specific facts raising a genuine issue of fact regarding federal ownership or management of public lands in Nevada,” the decision reads.
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Glenn Beck Warns Americans Against Falling in With the ‘Right’s Version of Occupy Wall Street’
The controversy over a Nevada rancher’s decades-long use of public land without paying federal grazing fees has quickly become a national issue — one that Glenn Beck on Monday urged Americans to fully understand before taking a side on.
http://12160.info/page/glenn-beck-warns-americans-against-falling-i...
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"State"
There is no academic consensus on the most appropriate definition of the state...
("State") The most commonly used definition is Max Weber's,[6][7][8][9][10] which describes the state as a compulsory political organization with a centralized government that maintains a monopoly of the legitimate use of force within a certain territory
Wait a minute: the People owns the State / Government, and here it is stated Government can use force on <Owners> -> CEO can arrest stock holders (??)
The Law itself is full of Protocol logic
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Problem: What happens if/when Bundy the Rancher is perceived as the archetype of the People of Nevada?
That means: "Legality" will be the question - and Who is representative of Who? (not a Glenn Beck question). (That is a debate MSM don't like)
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Might be good to clear up this possible [?] error, or typo?
Point 5, para 2...
"“[T]he public ___?___ in Nevada are the property of the United States [?]- because the United States has held title to those public lands since 1848, when Mexico ceded the land to the United States,” the ruling states,
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Comes down to the nation's laws. But they're always designed in favor of the national elite, and don't usually recognize True Land Laws, and scientific economic distribution of lands, let alone the real day-to-day, but also the 'generational' concerns of We, The People.
The nation's oligarchs will cause a war to hold on, and states being states are under pressure from above, and from their own stubborn profiteers, who like it the way it is.
So whether states can separate, depends on the states getting fully familiar with the true laws, then merely for greater power against the national executive and it's federal military, have to group-up with as many other states as they can, before they mount a secession challenge.
But, while secession like in Spain, Italy and now Ukraine etc, has important and huge merit in restoring Democratic government to local autonomies, and as I rant about
["140414 Secession From Supra-States For All Micro-Nations - Global - The 21st Century Green Planet"
http://maxearth.blogspot.com.au/2014/04/autonomy-for-eus-and-usas-s...],
should be how the planet heads in future, the problem is the excessive and overwhelming "too big to fail, or be arrested" corruption, as corruption always does, centering itself in the largest bureaucracy, aka national governments.
And the core of these wrong designs for Democratic states/nation-states, is the ancient dynastic rulership of Eurape - the monarchies.
All minor cliques of 'elites' everywhere, have been bought into the higher wealth circles of those megarich-mega-WARRING Euros [IMF] to abide by this flawed local, state and national corrupted 'legal' structure/s.
So states all having their own cabals of elites, comply, against the People, and are always trying to win ownership of the land. Land, which really belongs to "the planet" to put an earthly entity in, in place of the false 'god' scenario.
And,"We The People" too, really owe everything to "The Planet", and it also really, owns us. So all laws should be designed to cater from that planetary, or global scenario of 'ownership' down to us, and to the critters, in that, the Planet we have to imagine, is impartial, and thus distributes all it's resources equitably across all [earthly] beings.
That's how the laws from the Bundy Ranch shituation, to the BLM, to the states and national laws - and globally to any scumsucking multinational corporation which wants to pervert laws, and ownership and the environment - should be arranged.
If the elites followed those arrangements, she'd all be sweet.
But they don't. So it's up to those who are able to, who are nearest, in reach of the, of their governments, aka the counties and states, to enlighten the sickos on all government treasuries and taxation departments, about how the laws have to be, then by numbers take the case to the feds.
But, as I started to say, good laws would not require 'secession'. That only becomes necessary because of the massive extent of corruption in the larger authorities. [Spain's monarchy and political class. The UK's Centrist Westminster. Italy's centrist Roman elite. Ukraine's 'nazi' elite, bought-off by the psycho EU. EUROPE! So it goes everywhere]
IF, the feds, everywhere, were straightened up, then the whole system would be harmonious, and the federation and most of it's fiscal and planning infrastructures could remain.
BUt HEY! Most 'nations' today, are but what the 16th to 20th century colonists carved up for their own elites, completely ignorant of 'ecological' demands, and without any care whatsoever, for The People, who were owned then, by the snobs.
So as US Democracy, full of corruption as it is, on paper at least, releases The People from being slaves, serfs, and chattels of the elite, it suggests The People can 'rule' themselves.
Therefore, to 'prove' they can, they have to transcend all the bullshit we've come to accept, from the past, about ourselves, the land, and the laws, relating The People, to The Land, and go for the most equitable 'Universal Laws of Distribution', as per the planet's, as written above.....
Yeah.....
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Scotland can separate if there is a majority for that - not disputed. They decide, not London.
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QUESTION: Is it true that nearly 80% of Nevada is still owned by the Federal Government who then pays no tax to the State of Nevada? http://12160.info/page/martin-armstrong-asks-do-the-feds-really-own...
WTF - the feds owns Nevada?
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