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Permalink Reply by Mizzy on October 1, 2010 at 1:22pm

Well, gee golly, it was put in the scriptures in 1835
Robert Carobene said:

I am canadian and many people here believe in the rapture I know that here in Canada is where I learned of the rapture about 17 years ago!
margaret said:

Why is it... that the rapture is believed on the majority by only Americans... Ya might want to look that up...

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Permalink Reply by Robert Carobene on October 1, 2010 at 1:44pm

Not 1835 more like 2000 years ago when the bible was written!
Mizzy said:

Well, gee golly, it was put in the scriptures in 1835
Robert Carobene said:

I am canadian and many people here believe in the rapture I know that here in Canada is where I learned of the rapture about 17 years ago!
margaret said:

Why is it... that the rapture is believed on the majority by only Americans... Ya might want to look that up...

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Permalink Reply by Robert Carobene on October 1, 2010 at 2:41pm

So much has been tamperd with its hard to know what is real or not
ThorAxe said:

The bible has been tampered with,Constantine butchered the word of Yahweh over 40 books of the original word were removed and the powers at that time added books to the word. Jesus is a pagan name so is Jehovah there is no j in ancient Hebrew.the word god is also pagan could mean any god ,Elohim was replaced with god,Yashuwa was replaced with jesus isn't it odd the satan name wasn't changed.Here is a link that may help....http://www.2besaved.com/2BSHome02.html 98% of churches are under authority of the gov and are apostate.
Robert Carobene said:

Well The Illuminati have tampered with all but the word of God there are many religions and alot is corrupted but the bible has many prophecies and they all came true and they say there will be a one world government and at the end times. They even say Israel will come back as a nation just before God returns to earth. This is why I believe in the word of God! Who would you say will defeat the nwo?

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Permalink Reply by Robert Carobene on October 1, 2010 at 2:56pm

God will let us know and through his son we can know the truth!
ThorAxe said:

All truth from Yahweh will be confirmed and your heart will know!
Robert Carobene said:

So much has been tamperd with its hard to know what is real or not
ThorAxe said:

The bible has been tampered with,Constantine butchered the word of Yahweh over 40 books of the original word were removed and the powers at that time added books to the word. Jesus is a pagan name so is Jehovah there is no j in ancient Hebrew.the word god is also pagan could mean any god ,Elohim was replaced with god,Yashuwa was replaced with jesus isn't it odd the satan name wasn't changed.Here is a link that may help....http://www.2besaved.com/2BSHome02.html 98% of churches are under authority of the gov and are apostate.
Robert Carobene said:

Well The Illuminati have tampered with all but the word of God there are many religions and alot is corrupted but the bible has many prophecies and they all came true and they say there will be a one world government and at the end times. They even say Israel will come back as a nation just before God returns to earth. This is why I believe in the word of God! Who would you say will defeat the nwo?

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Permalink Reply by fireguy on October 1, 2010 at 4:09pm

If the NWO/Ancient Babylon religion wrote the Bible, to have control over us they did a very poor job of it.

The basic message of the Bible is HUMAN FREEDOM from the WORLD SYSTEM run by Satanic maniacs.

Use a concordance and look up the word freedom and see how many verses there are proclaiming liberty and freedom.

Here are a couple to start with.

Exodus 6:6
Therefore, say to the Israelites: 'I am the LORD, and I will bring you out from under the yoke of the Egyptians. I will free you from being slaves to them, and I will redeem you with an outstretched arm and with mighty acts of judgment.

Psalm 118:5
In my anguish I cried to the LORD, and he answered by setting me free.

Psalm 119:45

I will walk about in freedom,
for I have sought out your precepts.

Psalm 129:4
But the LORD is righteous;
he has cut me free from the cords of the wicked.

Isaiah 61:1

The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me,
because the LORD has anointed me
to preach good news to the poor.
He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
to proclaim freedom for the captives
and release from darkness for the prisoners,


Galatians 5:1

It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

Galatians 5:13

You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love.

1 Peter 2:16

Act as free men, and do not use your freedom as a covering for evil, but use it as bondslaves of God.

Christians have opposed tyranical governments through the ages from the Romans to the NWO puppets Bush and Obama/Soetoro to the point of being imprisoned, tortured and killed.

The notion that the Founding Fathers were Deists and not Christians has been debunked for hundreds of years.

http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=8755

The NWO hates Jesus Christ and what He has done for all humanity. They hate humans for the same reason.

The NWO is the about establishing the system of Satan they believe in and strive to accomplish.

Satan knows his time is short and will do everything he can to decieve anyone who will believe the lies he spews through his minions.

Quit hating on Christians, get on with your lives and fight for everyones freedom.

John 8:31

... Jesus said, "If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

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Permalink Reply by Mizzy on October 1, 2010 at 4:26pm

Elohim is plural for GODS. There are many GODS.
ThorAxe said:

The bible has been tampered with,Constantine butchered the word of Yahweh over 40 books of the original word were removed and the powers at that time added books to the word. Jesus is a pagan name so is Jehovah there is no j in ancient Hebrew.the word god is also pagan could mean any god ,Elohim was replaced with god,Yashuwa was replaced with jesus isn't it odd the satan name wasn't changed.Here is a link that may help....http://www.2besaved.com/2BSHome02.html 98% of churches are under authority of the gov and are apostate.
Robert Carobene said:

Well The Illuminati have tampered with all but the word of God there are many religions and alot is corrupted but the bible has many prophecies and they all came true and they say there will be a one world government and at the end times. They even say Israel will come back as a nation just before God returns to earth. This is why I believe in the word of God! Who would you say will defeat the nwo?

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Permalink Reply by Mizzy on October 1, 2010 at 4:27pm

Oh, and please do study the Babylonian Brotherhood. There are many secrets there.

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Permalink Reply by Mizzy on October 1, 2010 at 7:51pm

Read the book called, "The Gods of Eden" and this might help you understand more if you want too. I do not think religion should be talked about at all and I do not think anyone should force it on anyone else. The original post actually says if you are not a believer you are going to hell and that should not be allowed on this kind of site. End of story.;
ThorAxe said:

In the context of the ancient Hebrew script it was definitely singular....see att ...http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/Elohim/elohim.html
Mizzy said:

Elohim is plural for GODS. There are many GODS.
ThorAxe said:

The bible has been tampered with,Constantine butchered the word of Yahweh over 40 books of the original word were removed and the powers at that time added books to the word. Jesus is a pagan name so is Jehovah there is no j in ancient Hebrew.the word god is also pagan could mean any god ,Elohim was replaced with god,Yashuwa was replaced with jesus isn't it odd the satan name wasn't changed.Here is a link that may help....http://www.2besaved.com/2BSHome02.html 98% of churches are under authority of the gov and are apostate.
Robert Carobene said:

Well The Illuminati have tampered with all but the word of God there are many religions and alot is corrupted but the bible has many prophecies and they all came true and they say there will be a one world government and at the end times. They even say Israel will come back as a nation just before God returns to earth. This is why I believe in the word of God! Who would you say will defeat the nwo?

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Permalink Reply by Mizzy on October 1, 2010 at 7:52pm

Robert, please don't force your religion on other people. It's wrong

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Permalink Reply by Robert Carobene on October 1, 2010 at 9:48pm

Im not forcing anything I just like to debate stuff since the nwo is part of it all. Its great to have debates about all kinds of stuff.
Mizzy said:

Robert, please don't force your religion on other people. It's wrong

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Permalink Reply by Mizzy on October 1, 2010 at 11:14pm

ELOHIM
In the Bible the word for God in the Hebrew that is most often used is Elohim. It is a plural noun. Today it is popular to say it means plural of majesty. However the form of the word, Eloh-im, is plural. The word for God in the singular sense is El which is used most often in describing Gods characteristics or attributes. El Eyon, El Shaddai, In the Hebrew when Elohim is when used of the true God it is used singular, as a composite unity, when it is used of false gods it is used in the plural. (ex. you shall have no other Gods Elohim before me."

ThorAxe said:

In the context of the ancient Hebrew script it was definitely singular....see att ...http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/Elohim/elohim.html
Mizzy said:

Elohim is plural for GODS. There are many GODS.
ThorAxe said:

The bible has been tampered with,Constantine butchered the word of Yahweh over 40 books of the original word were removed and the powers at that time added books to the word. Jesus is a pagan name so is Jehovah there is no j in ancient Hebrew.the word god is also pagan could mean any god ,Elohim was replaced with god,Yashuwa was replaced with jesus isn't it odd the satan name wasn't changed.Here is a link that may help....http://www.2besaved.com/2BSHome02.html 98% of churches are under authority of the gov and are apostate.
Robert Carobene said:

Well The Illuminati have tampered with all but the word of God there are many religions and alot is corrupted but the bible has many prophecies and they all came true and they say there will be a one world government and at the end times. They even say Israel will come back as a nation just before God returns to earth. This is why I believe in the word of God! Who would you say will defeat the nwo?

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Permalink Reply by fireguy on October 6, 2010 at 8:28pm

Keep on preaching it Sister.

Isaiah 55:10-11 (Amplified Bible)

10For as the rain and snow come down from the heavens, and return not there again, but water the earth and make it bring forth and sprout, that it may give seed to the sower and bread to the eater,

11So shall My word be that goes forth out of My mouth: it shall not return to Me void [without producing any effect, useless], but it shall accomplish that which I please and purpose, and it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it.




Jen said:

Tara I wanted to add the following and say while I don't think the "Rapture" is a get out free card (because I don't believe the Word instructs believers to wait for one... well not a pre-trib one anyway... ) I think that the study should be between each person and the Lord... after all is said and done we will stand for ourselves... I think people forget the little verses... the one line teachings like "Judge not that ye be not judged". And yes I believe as it says further in the following Chapter that there will be "strong delusion"... people will see miracles and not by Christ... people will believe the lie...
I believe God knows hearts and will make that division... justly... something I couldn't do lol...

If you look at 2 Thes 2:5 He says that he had told them before what was going to happen and how...

I hope you don't mind me quoting scripture but thy are the Word and not my words. I'm not a teacher and I'm sure not perfect or led a saintly life but I believe... and God is not a liar...

2 Thessalonians 2 (King James Version)

2 Thessalonians 2
1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,

17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.


and again...
2 Thessalonians 3:1-5

1Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:

2And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.

3But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.

4And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you.

5And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.

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