American history thread

my ancestors have been in America usa since 1740 i think and im part American Indian

they were on both sides of the American revolution i think probably at least on american side in war of 1812

the creek Indians were still supporting the British

i have heard king George the 3rd finally agreed to all the demands of the colonists except the he wanted the 3 cent tax on tea

anyone know about this? anyone read history?

now we tax pay 50% to illegals other countries Gaza scum or may be thyere not scum but i say some there are bigots toward Jews i think they are

but if 2 thirds in revolution were pro British or neutral in that war how is it a democracy? Tories were chased out and treated bad

the mel Gibson the patriot movie really isn't accurate

well i suppose good came out of the revolution in the end with our pretty good constitution which is ok -its probably the best in the world in a lot of ways

but some states rights founders didnt even want it

except the Indians were continued to be slaughter by "Americans" looking for gold in Georgia and California where they slaughtered 80% of the yani Indian or most until ishi was the last yana Indian as can be seen in movie last of his tribe

now ted Anderson wants us to buy gold? fuck gold!!

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Permalink Reply by whatawonderfulworldJethroClampet on March 1, 2009 at 11:58am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishi

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Permalink Reply by whatawonderfulworldJethroClampet on March 1, 2009 at 12:27pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Federalist

"Anti-Federalist" redirects here. For the faction opposed to the policies of U.S. President George Washington, see Anti-Administration Party.
Anti-Federalism refers to a movement that opposed the creation of a stronger U.S. federal government and which later opposed the ratification of the Constitution of 1787. The previous constitution, called the Articles of Confederation, gave state governments more authority. Led by Patrick Henry of Virginia, Anti-Federalists worried, among other things, that the position of president, then a novelty, might evolve into a monarchy.

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Permalink Reply by whatawonderfulworldJethroClampet on March 1, 2009 at 12:41pm

many of the articles in opposition were written under pseudonyms, such as "Brutus", "Centinel", and "Federal Farmer". Eventually, famous revolutionary figures such as Patrick Henry came out publicly against the Constitution. They argued that the strong national government proposed by the Federalists was a threat to the rights of individuals and that the President would become a king. They objected to the federal court system created by the proposed constitution. This produced a phenomenal body of political writing; the best and most influential of these articles and speeches were gathered by historians into a collection known as the Anti-Federalist Papers in allusion to the Federalist Papers.

In every state the opposition to the Constitution was strong, and in two states — North Carolina and Rhode Island — it prevented ratification until the definite establishment of the new government practically forced their adhesion. Individualism was the strongest element of opposition; the necessity, or at least the desirability, of a bill of rights was almost universally felt. In Rhode Island resistance against the Constitution was so strong that civil war almost broke out on July 4, 1788, when anti-federalist members of the Country Party led by Judge William West marched into Providence with over 1,000 armed protesters.[1]

The Anti-Federalists played upon these feelings in the ratification convention in Massachusetts. By this point, five of the states had ratified the Constitution with relative ease, but the Massachusetts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Federalist

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Permalink Reply by whatawonderfulworldJethroClampet on March 1, 2009 at 12:44pm

but the Massachusetts convention was far more bitter and contentious. Finally, after long debate, a compromise (known as the "Massachusetts compromise") was reached. Massachusetts would ratify the Constitution with recommended provisions in the ratifying instrument that the Constitution be amended with a bill of rights. (The Federalists contended that a conditional ratification would be void, so the recommendation was the strongest support that the ratifying convention could give to a bill of rights short of rejecting the Constitution.)

Four of the next five states to ratify, including New Hampshire, Virginia, and New York, included similar language in their ratification instruments. As a result, once the Constitution became operative in 1789, Congress sent a set of twelve amendments to the states. Ten of these amendments were immediately ratified and became known as the Bill of Rights. Thus, while the Anti-Federalists were unsuccessful in their quest to prevent the adoption of the Constitution, their efforts were not totally in vain. Anti-Federalists thus became recognized as an influential group among the founding fathers of the United States.

With the passage of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, the Anti-Federalist movement was exhausted. It was succeeded by the more broadly based Anti-Administration Party, which opposed the fiscal and foreign policies of U.S. President George Washington.

[edit] Noted Anti-Federalists

if you created an Anti-Administration Party these days theyd probably surveil you or have you executed in our now new age country