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Permalink Reply by O.R.M.E. on January 1, 2012 at 7:13pm

We hope the prophecies are irrelevant (fear mongering) because most of the information about 2012 is DISinformation..we are hoping that 2012 signifies a consolidation of the global awakening that has already begun and that the world in general will wake up to realise how elite, secret societies have been controlling humanity for thousands of years without any right to do so!

Heres to a shift in consciousness and a cataclysm free 2012! :)

Permalink Reply by Alex Daube on January 31, 2012 at 7:42pm

Unfortunately, I don't believe there will be a global awakening. People are just too ignorant, self-centered, and spiritually blind. Instead of an awakening we will have judgment and death, and it will begin here in America before spreading to the world.

Permalink Reply by Alex Daube on January 31, 2012 at 7:38pm

What prophecies are you speaking of which are mind blowing? I know that most of the churches here in America are not following the spirit of God, and have become part of the Church System of Man, which will be destroyed in judgment.

I just posted 4 videos on YouTube titled "Chuck Youngbrandt - God's Warning to America" and they are very detailed. See the discussion at http://12160.info/group/prophecies-americas-future for the links.

Permalink Reply by wizanda on February 1, 2012 at 6:02am

A key Biblical one:

Zec 3:9  For behold the stone (peter - Petros) that I have laid before Joshua (Yeshua); upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.

Luk 21:8  And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, "I Am" (EGO I-mee); and the time draweth near (eggizo): go ye not therefore after them.

His real name was Yeshua not jesus, which according to many means man beast, when translated back from iesous. He clearly called Simon the stone (petras) and also satan saying he follows the ways of man, more then God.
In Matt, Mark, Luke he warns against those using EGO I-mee (I AM); yet within John there are 7 "I AM"'s portraying him as god.

So where as the church has established St-Peter (stone) as its founder, according to the name reference; he is the author of confusion.

Permalink Reply by Alex Daube on February 5, 2012 at 6:53pm

You appear to have a massive misunderstanding of scripture. Are you calling the apostles Peter, Paul, and John the Antichrist?

Joshua is a form of the Hebrew name Yehoshua meaning "Jehovah (YAHWEH) is salvation"

The name Jesus comes from a Greek translation of the Aramaic short form Yeshua, so it's fine to call him Jesus. Anyone who claims that Jesus the Messiah is some sort of beast is horribly evil and is serving the spirit of Antichrist.

Why would you think that Zec 3:9 is referring to the Apostle Peter? Just because the name Peter means stone, doesn't mean that all stones in the world are Peter.

In Matthew 16:23, when Jesus calls Peter Satan, it was because Satan was temporarily using Peter's human feelings (he didn't want Jesus to die) to try to stop Jesus from obeying God:

“(21) From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things...and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life. (22) Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. “Never, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to you!” (23) Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan!”

Satan is able to exploit our weaknesses, and work through them to hurt us and others. That's what was going on there, and it doesn't mean that Peter was evil. The Bible makes it clear that Peter was a servant of God – not evil.

The church was founded upon Peter's confession of Christ as Messiah, which really means it is founded upon Jesus, not upon Peter himself, although that verse can be confusing. Christ is also the Chief Cornerstone of the church. And the church was NOT founded upon confusion. Only Satan would want us to believe that.

The term “I Am” has nothing to do with ego - it is the name of God, the one God gave to Moses.
Jesus, being God, was also called “I Am”
John 8:58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”

So Luke 21:8 was just telling us to beware of people who in the future would claim to be God.

Permalink Reply by wizanda on February 6, 2012 at 5:28am

The gospel of John is clearly falsified, it contradicts the other gospels on theology, vocabulary, character, no parables, clear opposite statements of events and many clauses within it, purposely break Jewish law. It was most likely written from a pharisee perspective, as it contains mainly private conversations that took place amongst them.

Paul contradicts Christ on well over 36 points and within theology its common knowledge, he was the author of Christianity.

Yet as Yeshua said, many shall fall on this stone and be broken; its just a shame no one seems to have noticed, they've been set up.

Permalink Reply by Alex Daube on February 6, 2012 at 5:49pm

Not so, the gospel of John isn't falsified and Paul doesn't contradict Christ. And the stone people fall upon and are broken is Jesus, because they continue to reject him instead of following him. Everyone who rejects Jesus the Christ will be broken in the end.