Cass Suntein, President Obama's regulatory czar, recommended "cognitive infiltration of extremist groups."

I have news for you, this has been happening for at least 6 years on the web, perhaps longer. My experience on message boards is perhaps more extensive than any other truth seeker. If we 9-11 truth seekers are "extremists", how do we detect infiltrators if they are present?

I've learned how this is done. It is actually something junior high school debate teams could achieve easily once the parameters are understood. Just like by the very nature of what the "cognitive infiltrators" have to work with is about on the same level.

I have had a huge advantage here because I actually know exactly, in general terms, how the Twin Towers were constructed. I viewed a 2 hour documentary in 1990 titled "The Engineering and Construction of the Twin Towers" that aired nationwide on PBS. I work in construction, have been a welder for 35 years and have also worked as a driller for a blaster on "above ground" blasting projects for road building. I almost attempted to gain the OJT needed to get my BATF blasting license, then decided construction was waning generally.

That advantage is having accurate information about the Twins that can be used to test a group with for infiltrators. My information is absolutely consistent with all evidence. Any one who is in construction knowing of steel and concrete can confirm this consistency.

The average truth seeker is at a major disadvantage because they do not know what is correct or not correct. If they know construction they can determine what is correct once they see it, but before that they do not know.

What I encountered was made a little more difficult because no one had come out and said, like Sunstein, that infiltration's were recommended. I had to determine by behaviors what constituted "cognitive" or exactly how the term was applied to a specific "infiltration". How it was carried out by whomever might be doing it, what it looked like.

Another aspect of the infiltration that was not readily obvious, but became so fairly quickly, was that the infiltration utilized social fears. These are the primary tools of the infiltrators.

A) Ridicule
B) False agreement
C) Social castigation


A more sophisticated and generically related tool is "cognitive distortions". Behavioral psychologists have a list of these that they use in defining when and where therapy needs to be applied to correct erroneous thinking in a patient. Erroneous thinking can, over periods of time, cause people to alienate themselves from others and interfere with the life experience significantly. Here is a list that has been slightly modified to more easily show how it can be applied by others in writing or speaking to distort your perceptions and thoughts.

1) All or nothing thinking: Things are placed in black or white categories.
2) Over generalization: Single event is viewed as continuous.
3) Mental filter: Details in life (positive or negative) are amplified in importance while opposite is rejected.
4) Minimizing: Perceiving one or opposite experiences (positive or negative) as absolute and maintaining singularity of belief to one or the other.
5) Mind reading: One absolutely concludes that others are reacting positively or negatively without investigating reality.
6) Fortune Telling: Based on previous 5 distortions, anticipation of negative or positive outcome of situations is established fact.
7) Catastrophizing: Exaggerated importance of self's failures and others successes.
8) Emotional reasoning: One feels as though emotional state IS reality of situation.
9) Should" statements: Self imposed rules about behavior creating guilt at self inability to adhere and anger at others in their inability to conform to self's rules.
10) Labeling: Instead of understanding errors over generalization is applied.
11) Personalization: Thinking that the actions or statements of others are a reaction to you.
12) Entitlement: Believing that you deserve things you have not earned.


The real power of the above can be understood when it is realized that this "infiltration" is always by one group of another group. Individuals do not infiltrate discussion groups easily or effectively unless everyone thinks the infiltrator is absolutely trusted.

In the case of 9-11 cognitive infiltration, it appears that there was something far greater than just a few agents logging on to message boards and distorting discussion. In the case of 9-11 the extent of the distortion via infiltration has been conducted by a MAJOR PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATION. Message boards, information web sites, specific movements, videos, individual icons and organizations on the ground have been either created, produced or (mis) led by agents of one type or another.

There is a term somewhat understood is "disinformation". That would be the goal of "cognitive infiltration" through the methods of disrupting thinking and resultant action so completely that failure is constant and the group infiltrated concludes that the activity is a waste of time and impossible. By the use of fairly simple informational structures as tools for the group of infiltrators to use, we can see how constant failure of action could be created in a larger, unknowing group.

D) Misinformation
E) Useless information
F) Over information


It should be obvious to any informed person conducting accurate and comprehensive critical thinking that the internet was created as the "global village" with the usenet then converted to .com to appear as a commercial free-for-all (which it is) but also take advantage of a simple psychological fact or feature of the human mental capacity.

Human being have 2 brains. Only the left brain can conduct cognitive, rational reasoning. The right brain has most of our long term memory, autonomic function, emotional response structures cooperating with the limbic system. When you have a thought that makes you feel something, that is the limbic system working.

Here is the simple fact.

When people speak or listen to speech, the left brain is always involved to some degree. When reading or writing, the left brain might not be involved.

We read and write on the internet therefore we are more vulnerable to "cognitive distortions".

The identification of "cognitive infiltration" is quite simple once a person is aware of the above and a few simple, general parameters.

A dominate primary parameter is that no ground obscuring correct information ever be relinquished. Meaning real evidence cannot ever be recognized. Cognitive distortions 1 thru 12 are used to diminish the meaning of facts and evidence while showing false group preference of )D, E) and F). Another is that infiltrating agents always agree when opposing specific accurate information. Otherwise they disagree within F) and D) with others acting under B). Secondary is that a false pretense of social interaction be evident to reinforce C) the deception that the group of infiltrators are normal Americans using the internet. Another secondary parameter is that Constitutional principles and lawfulness by government be underplayed, but not overtly rejected.

When the above fails ridicule is the only tool left and to avoid compromising the group of infiltrators only a few infiltrators apply the ridicule and odd reinforcement is randomly applied by other agents of the infiltrating group.

Consider the black budget is fully large enough to conduct this and within cold war secrecy we would have no way of knowing such was true. Consider that two presidents have warned us of various aspects related to this thread and its purpose and they both were in office just prior to the construction of the World trade Center.

http://algoxy.com/psych/audio/military_eisenhower1_17_61.mp3

http://algoxy.com/psych/audio/jfk_secrecy.mp3

Another aspect is that those conducting "cognitive infiltration's" will never meaningfully take part in a discussion about "cognitive infiltration".

To demonstrate my absolute support for the US Constitution and every prior social contract carried by it and supporting it I will share with the viewer an element of natural law. It originates with the spiritual and philosophical understandings of Native American people who contributed significantly to the concepts the framers of the constitution incorporated into our social contract. This is something every America should know but does not. The reason for this is a union of church and state that disallowed this knowledge from being of the first words of the 1st Amendment to the Constitution. Instead of these words about free speech we have freedom of religion.

The greater meaning of free speech comes from an understanding that might be found by practicing it. From the understanding can come; forgiveness, tolerance, acceptance, respect, trust, friendship and love, protecting life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

All right . . . who is really here for truth?

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This is really good stuff here, bravo. Kind of lost you with the union of church/state comment, though. What are you getting at with that and what does it have to do with 9/11 and disinformation?


OldNorth said:
This is really good stuff here, bravo. Kind of lost you with the union of church/state comment, though. What are you getting at with that and what does it have to do with 9/11 and disinformation?


The secret union between church and state prevented the "Greater Meaning of Free Speech" from being the beginning of the first amendment. The greater meanings came from the Indigenous people of this continent. The church generalized them as uncivilized heathens in their official position historically, Pagans and heretics were the labels they applied. Accordingly, since heretics are never given a place in the written history approved by the church, the "Greater Meaning of Free Speech" could not be written down because its origin would have been carried in common knowledge. Also, the common sense aspects of it would have been accepted over the rhetoric of the church, something they would never allow.

That union of church and state has almost nothing to do with 9-11.

The union of church and state relating to 9-11 is the secrecy. The original peurpose of the word "heresy" was to obscure and generalize the natural practices of keeping oral history in the unconscious mind. The "Old World" ran on the unconscious that was utilized with very deep trance states to the depth of somnambulism which are the ultimate human learning state.

What is unconscious is better than secret. It is knowledge that cannot be revealed. The secrecy that built the Twins to demolish was created with abuses of knowledge of working directly of the unconscious mind
In detecting and identifying cognitive infiltration's there are some rules logically derived from the understanding of the OP. People must act as they say they intend in order to NOT be acting as an infiltrator. Infiltrating agents will always refuse to use evidence, they will always have people working with them and it will begin to look like a social scene. there will be efforts to distract from ANYTHING that might represent useful information.
To avoid acting like an infiltrator people MUST be accountable using reason and evidence.

The infiltration must stop people from using useful information. Anything is acceptable as long as useful information for gaining more truth is dismissed.

In checking out this site I found it a typical ning site that has clodish navigation, not a message board, something else, and fluffy with space meaning lots of linking. The most active place I found here was

http://12160.chatango.com/

I began posting there and found someone quickly who refused to use evidence and completely believes the official story about the structure. Sky Blu Eys only posted one image called "evidence" that is commonly used to misrepresent the elevator guide rail support steel. Sunday October 24, 2010



The image was taken from a distance and shows very little. I repeatedly asked for an image from 9-11 showing this core structure that FEMA said existed.



In 6 years no one has ever posted an image of that core from 9-11. That core did not exist.

In the image at top, a screen shot of the chat, we see that Imarkler thinks the building plans are irrelevant. Why did guiliani take the WTC documents from NYC offices if they were irrelevant? A violation of law.

http://web.archive.org/web/20020224015919/http://www.nyclu.org/g_ar...

Then Sky Blue Eyes wants to distract from the 2 buildings where 3,000 people were killed. He states "who cares about them", Sky Blue Eyes wants to focus on WTC 7 where no one was killed. Where the owner is happy with the investigation and made $6 billion. Sky Blue Eyes states it wants a "new investigation", but is working to remove all reasons that might compel officials to renew investigation.

Then Imarkler tosses in some frivolous comment to make a more social environment. Sky Blue Eyes states that focusing on the exact act preventing a proper analysis of collapse, the act that deprived the 3,000 victims of due process and all America of "equal protection of law", is a waste of time. We can prove that NIST did not have the plans which are required to conduct forensic analysis but Sky Blue Eyes thinks that is a waste.


Later on this was taking place in the chat.


Brokensheep has arrived and works to give credence to Sky Blue Eyes who thinks it is a waste to focus on the proof of due process deprival of 3,000 murders, Sky Blue Eyes can only talk about my message board work to expose the psyops, cognitive infiltration's that have been conducted in the post 9-11 internet cointelpro action imposed upon us.

Then Brokensheep states I don't want to engage him. Without posting anything to engage. As soon as I show up and post they both stop. My last post was Sunday October 24, 2010 at 11:22. Basically this is all ad hominium producing no evidence with no ability to engage any evidence.

Very typical cognitive infiltration.

the last screen shot of the chat shows where Sky Blue Eyes and Imarkler attempt to dismiss what can be proven, and is officially actionable, as "distraction".. A false social group agreeing. Sky Blue Eyes uses "labeling" and all or "nothing thinking" and "minimization" to attempt to effect cognitive processes with distortions.

This is the east concrete core wall of WTC 2 on 9-11 toppling into the empty core area.



The engineer of record for the twin Towers identified a concrete core in the days following 9-11.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040807085840/http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3...

Maybe the size and scope of the "cognitive infiltration" is beginning to be apparent
great post.


bryan l said:
great post.

Thanks Bryan!
this is not my first day dealing with the nwo agents of infiltration. It has taken years of testing to see consistent patterns and invoke them. The agents can never acknowledge truth that indicates the official crimes and must always oppose facts no matter how stupid and dramatic they must be to do so. They of course will do this within support for misinformation, over information and distraction the larger false social group of the major psyops has made dominant, working to make all that "useless information" look more important or useful within their agenda.
dubble BUMP!! ;)


ConspiratusUbiquitus said:
dubble BUMP!! ;)

Right on ConspiratusUbiquitus!

This technique of using truth to expose the cognitive infiltrations and psyops needs to be spread wide and far.

Our side of it, the people side of it, is accountability. If we have information we believe is good, it should be verifiable. Check out each others info and when it is good loudly approve of it and promote it where need be. When we see unaccountability ask authority to seek accountability of individuals who appear to be working together to support misinformation.

On this site that means messages to admin (sorry, I know they deal with a bunch already) to email Sky Blue Eyes, Imarkler and Brokensheep and request that they be accountable to the issue of providing proof of the Twin towers core that FEMA presents which they believe and support.

To the admins. You will find that if you demand accountability on this that the nonsense BS and drama will subside because the named members cannot support with evidence that the Twin towers had steel core columns inside the core area. They will have to leave and re-register with new usernames or just stop with the support for misinfo.

It is important to realize that there is a lot of true informationt hat is also useless. In the case where a member promotes what might be useless information, ask them to define its use to us, the people, for gaining more truth or official accountability and to post that PUBLICALLY.

When they fail to define the informations use, we can be rid of one more distraction.

Thanks!

Love,

Chris
I'm confused? So what's the point about arguing over whether or not the twin towers core was made of concrete or steel???? Do we all agree that the official 9-11 commission was a white wash? and that there are glaring discrepancies between the official 9-11 report and reality.

I do understand Chris' desire to weed through all the crap to find the nuggets of truth. I believe most of us, not all, come here seeking answers....and in our haste to figure out the truth about our surroundings, we, at times, neglect our due diligence in confirming from multiple sources the validity of the information we are basing our understanding off of. What Chris points out is important, to hold one another accountable for what we say but, I would add, in a manner conducive to the growth of understanding and with the understanding that we ALL have been wrong one time or another in life. Now should we give one another the benefit of the doubt considering what we know in regard to infiltration? That is a personal choice for each of us to make but I would add that this "infiltration" does not stop on the internet..

Yes we must be vigilant and thorough in our dissemination of information and interactions with individuals on the internet and our personal life, but if we do not attempt to "trust" anyone we most assuredly will fail.
With all due respect Chris, what exactly are you trying to prove here and what are you trying to gain? I'm just curious is all.

Most of here are aware of the "cognitive infiltration" that you speak of and have dealt with it here on 12160 to a certain degree. I see that you are pointing out specific members of 12160 in the comment thread without knowing the history of these members. They have been around since the inception of 12160, are valued members and are in no way infiltrators. I've been a member of 12160 for a long time and believe me....I've seen "coginitive infiltrators" come and go. It comes with the territory. It can be frustrating though and it causes division when we should be uniting, putting our differences aside and focusing on the true enemy, the NWO.

It's easy to take things out of context in a chat. If you would take the time to get to know some of us here on 12160 you would find out that most of us here are trying to get to the truth about many different NWO issues. However though, sometimes we are on different paths to get there.
Tara said:
With all due respect Chris, what exactly are you trying to prove here and what are you trying to gain? I'm just curious is all.

It's easy to take things out of context in a chat. If you would take the time to get to know some of us here on 12160 you would find out that most of us here are trying to get to the truth about many different NWO issues. However though, sometimes we are on different paths to get there.

I am proving that many valued members are cognitive infiltrators. What I'm trying to gain is a community that is aware that cognitive infiltrations are working to promote useless information in service to the nwo, because they cannot be stopped if we attempt to use that which cannot be used.

At this late date any real American is open to useful information towards re instituting constitutional and lawful government.

My information is useful for that. I will explain exactly how and have in the chat. If members there are too misguided, distracted or confused to understand, then they will not be able to contribute value towards gaining more truth.

My information proves that NIST attempted forensic analysis of collapse without having building plans. Such is not possible. Analysis of high performance buildings such as the Twins MUST utilize, final, detailed plans in order to determine what did and did not happen. This means that the cause of death stated on 3,000 death certificates is not accurate. Meaning due process has not been provided in mass murder.

Family members and relatives of victims have a right to request amendment of a NYC "vital record" at the coroners office. This has an appeal process with the NY attorney general

I need, we all need (unless we are infiltrating agents of the nwo) to see due process completed in order to receive equal protection of law.

Nothing has been taken out of context. I know agents when I trade words with them. Done deal. I've been doing this almost every day for 8 years. The members named believe FEMA without question, have been shown independently verified evidence showing FEMA lied about the towers core, they have been informed of the lawful uses of this info that will compel official actions and have completely failed to produce anything to support their belief or conduct any reasoning related to the evidence and its uses.

ON EDIT: A strange thing has happened. First the "comment id" caused this page to lock up on the comment of locutus who appears to have removed his post.

My email alert.

Locutus replied to your discussion "Identifying and Detecting Cognitive Infiltration" on 12160

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I've answered locutus question. If the core was concrete then the cause of death is invalid, due process has not been provided in mass murder, justification for re -analysis of collapse, WITH PLANS, is officially required.
I'm glad you were able to discern that these members are cognitive infiltrators by being a member for less than a week. I'm sure your reply would be "it only took a few minutes." I suggest a different approach. You make your arguments as to why you believe the way you do, adding proper factual info to back it up and other members on 12160 will do the same and have faith that each of us "individuals" will take from it what they will, research it if they choose, and agree if they so desire. But to "label" someone as a cognitive infiltrator and not someone who is stumbling along trying to put the pieces together just as you and I, promotes divisiveness and elitism in thought and is exactly why the world is in the current predicament it is in. Common ground is required as a fundamental basis to enact change. And my momma always told me, don't point the finger cuz you got 3 pointing straight back atchya!

Ram  Ram

Greetings,

 

There are layers upon layers of distortions of Truth. Cognitive infiltration begins from the moment we are born. Everyone is subject to it and acts in that capacity. No one is exempt. We are fooled by infiltration agents in the form of parents, friends, family, romantic partners, wealth, position, memories, possessions, ever-changing information--right up until death.

 

Most have no idea; a very, very few are desirous to break free. For those few, complete freedom from the prison of illusion can only be accomplished when an outsider, who is not under the control of illusion (Maya), appears. 

 

Our resistance against NWO and what that means, is ultimately is a resistance against suffering and death-which could come by something as normal as a car accident or falling tree-trunk. After death our 'precious' bodies become dust, ashes or stool. Wisdom means to fight for the reality, the brilliant, tiny, joyful life-force, which exists with or without material bodies. Even the so-called powerful NWO is covered and controlled by this deceptive cognitive force called Maya. 

 

One who has experienced this world sufficiently, recognises the infiltration agents for what they are, accepts his final helplessness and is humbly crying in the heart to gain a position of permanent peace and shelter.

 

Jaya Sri Ram

 

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