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Permalink Reply by Sharon Cox on June 4, 2013 at 1:44pm

James, is this to be a new way of sharing.?

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Permalink Reply by Elaine Morris on June 4, 2013 at 1:49pm

I have used them as a safe research system.  Please let us know when we can use Start Mail for an "email home."

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on June 4, 2013 at 2:05pm

Nice, hope they offer up some good features like video sharing via email, not via youtube and crap. Maximize the email embed file size to like 2 GB and deploy some FFMPEG tech to compress the videos. Store files over 100 MB on a fileserver for fast streaming embed from emails. Just needs a couple security tokens to keep the viewing private.

Also we need customizable folders to stay organized. Perhaps a nice calendar. Obviously a nice interface to pack in a bunch of nice features. Auto rule creation, like if a subject is 90% similar, follow the rule, same for email from_address. Stuff like, all from this [thing] goes to this [place]. Organization. Fast and impromtu 1 time use rules. Create logical default folders for people -> personal emails, work emails, financial emails, website notification emails, appointment emails.

People get a fuck ton of email these days, many people get well over 100, and many people want all 100 of those emails and need tools to help keep it organized, save time, etc.

Do it, do it big, do it right.

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Permalink Reply by DTOM on June 4, 2013 at 2:26pm

Yahoo to Users: Let Us Read Your Emails or -- Goodbye!

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Permalink Reply by jim on June 4, 2013 at 2:34pm

Has anyone verified this to be safe ?
it could be another government set up.
don't get me wrong, I'm all about security but these days there is no security.
it sounds good but without knowing startmail could read our mail as well. If anyone can verify it's safety I'm all for it.

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on June 4, 2013 at 2:42pm

Its pretty much as safe as you can get for {web}mail. When you use a locally installed client with end to end encryption, its a bit safer  =p

I think currently, the terms of service protects your privacy rights with them, but that does not protect you from government tapping the lines.

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Permalink Reply by 14300 on June 4, 2013 at 3:00pm

Good find James.  I'm "in" to be one of the Beta testers.

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Permalink Reply by guzziguy roberts on June 4, 2013 at 4:42pm

sTANKs James

??? start of someSTINGs better... BETA... why knot, I'm in...

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Permalink Reply by TheLasersShadow on June 4, 2013 at 5:47pm

Based in the Netherlands ... has real IP ... can be subpoenaed!! Not the most private email in the world by a long shot.  If the US/EU govt wants something they can easily get the Netherlands to demand it legally and they will hand over everything. Also I'm sure they could just sniff the ISP the email servers are connected to and bypass the legal system altogether.

http://tormail.org/ the dot org only serves as a floor mat for the link to the functional site http://jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion/ Visit with the tor browser bundle.

There are other .onion email services out there as well. No IP to serve papers to or sniff with encrypted .onion site, read up on it.

Also use http://www.gpg4win.org/ for windows, if you have linux you already know the deal.

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Permalink Reply by Central Scrutinizer on June 4, 2013 at 5:50pm

ya, ignore the babble speak, this thing is solid, private encrypted and non tracking

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Permalink Reply by TheLasersShadow on June 4, 2013 at 6:46pm

It's better than most but there are flaws. They can be forced to hand over an IP connected to a particular email account. They can be forced to hand over their private SSL key thus unencrypting the connection between them and you. In that case your password becomes government knowledge. Getting the SSL key may not even be necessary if they keep the private key, look for a 'forgot password' link if they have it they have the private key! Also if government sniffs the traffic at the ISP level the emails incoming to their servers if not intentionally encrypted by the sender the emails are hitting the Start Mail servers in the clear (readable). Just pointing things out here. Having an IP means the ability to be attacked by govt.

Depending on who you are Start Mail is great but don't think it's something it's not. If they don't maintain the private keys and are Tor friendly they WILL be popular!

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