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Permalink Reply by Jeff on February 9, 2010 at 5:35pm

Where 9/11 Truth is concerned I'm a staunch pessimist. The veil of secrecy will never be publicly pierced as can be seem from the NIST statement that they stand behind their position.

The real perpetrators of 9/11 will never be exposed. They can't be. EVERYTHING that's happened politically on a global scale since 9/11 would be exposed as a complete fraud. All legislation, all wars. And that's all legislation EVERYWHERE, the US, Sweden, Germany, France, Italy, the UK, everywhere. This effected every country on the planet. 9/11 Truth is a necessity that will never be realized.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't maintain the issue in the forefront, it means we should be prepared for complete failure.

Permalink Reply by Tara on February 9, 2010 at 6:04pm

Yes, I hear ya Jeff. It'll probably be JFK all over again. I have to keep hoping though because without hope what are we......hopeless and that word to me is defeatist. We may never see 911 truth revealed or justice served in our lifetime but I still believe in Karma, that you get back what you put out there whether it be in this life or the next......so yes, truth and justice shall win eventually. Every dirty dog will have his day as they say.

Permalink Reply by Jeff on February 9, 2010 at 6:24pm

Hope, aspiration, desire, wish, expectation, dream, faith, trust, conviction, ambition, anticipation.

That's what they want us to have. So we do.

Since I'm far from shy and since I prefer, since hope is futile, to make my position known in print for posterity, it is this, as you already know.

9/11 was a false flag operation perpetrated by the Israeli Zionist regime to draw the US into what has become a permanent war against Islam, to sell arms and protection to the National Security State manufactured in Israel (like the billions for airport scanners) and facilitated by the Mossad and obfuscated by the Neo-cons and supported by a complicit media. There's even a faction, a very large American one actaully, that believes whole-heartedly in the End Of Days and wants to, in George Bush's words, "bring it on" so they can be swept into heaven. It's all patently absurd.

It's so clear to anyone that looks and that's another reason the reality won't be revealed. Most people already know the truth.

For an advanced civilization we live in the stone age. No, even before that. The dark soup of matter is where we reside, still. Don't misunderstand Tara, I have great respect and admiration for you. You'll live much longer than I will since you're younger. Time will tell, won't it? Or maybe it won't. I've really lost concern for the truth behind 9/11 being exposed publicly because I feel confident I already understand it fully.

Permalink Reply by Jeff on February 9, 2010 at 6:26pm

Of course I suppose it would be a nice gesture if everyone knew so we could stop living the lies. Wishful thinking.

Permalink Reply by mick on February 9, 2010 at 6:49pm

Hope springs eternal....even today new information has emerged via the NYPD ...thousands of photo's from police helicopters on 911 in NY. Who knows what might turn up ...keep pushing against the wall of lies ...maybe one day it will collapse.


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Permalink Reply by Tara on February 9, 2010 at 6:58pm

Jeff, I couldn't agree with you more on your analysis of 911. I also believe that you are not so much of a pessimist but a realist, which are two totally different things to me. Reality is what it is and we know that we are now living in an Orweillian nightmare where lies are truth and truth are lies....war is peace and peace is war.....love is hate and hate is love, ect.... Everything is turned topsy turvy, upside down and reversed. It's hard to keep one's spirit in tact in times like these and if you can actually hold onto your sanity, you are blessed. My sanity left the room a long time ago, ha..ha..I think it is somewhere between Alice in Wonderland and Wizard of Oz. It helps me deal with reality, lol!

In all seriousness Jeff, thanks for your many great comments and your warrior spirit when confronting the '1984' we live in, especially when it comes to 911. We shall overcome friend, we shall overcome. We may be few in numbers but many in spirit!

Permalink Reply by Jeff on February 9, 2010 at 7:08pm

Thanks Tara, I love you too young lady and appreciate all of your efforts as well. You and others here on 12.160 have made me feel like I'm a part of something even if our overall numbers are few.

Yes, war is peace, the criminals are in charge, innocent people are convicted of war crimes, it's upside down and inside out, that's for sure. When I talk to people on Facebook and other mainstream web sites I wonder how they are so easily deceived. It's all just wondrous. Incredible. Overwhelming.

Peace