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Permalink Reply by truth on December 4, 2009 at 2:02pm

I believe the qurestion Greg is this : You formed a group, or form groups, why?

Permalink Reply by truth on December 6, 2009 at 1:32pm

An email I received.

James

Through your efforts, this site has attracted a group of people from different nations, beliefs and backgrounds. It is a valuable source of information- some of it based on fact, some based purely on speculation.

You have a group of angry, intellegent, disaffected people whose only response to the terrorism which is manefest, is to investigate and share information with the intention of fighting against the elite.

But intention is not enough. People need to be driven into action. People need leaders. It is the equivalent of a group of people with a collective hard on and nothing to fuck.

I believe I understand your position. You see yourself as a diplomatic overseer here- trying to direct the traffic of thought into a coherent ideal.

But resistence needs leadership. Otherwise people take it upon themselves to follow their own lead- and to persue that which, from their own perspective, is the main objective.

I am not sure how you would consolidate this, but the formulation of groups is symptomatic of the problem; lack of direction.

I am not a fascist but any victory throughout history has been attained by effective leadership.

I am not talking about one man at the top- but moreover a sense of direction lead by those who are respected and revered.

I have been a member here for about 9 months and one thing I have noticed is that we are preaching to the converted here. People don't come to this site, THEN learn about the NWO- it is the other way round. I believe that we need to start being pro-active about spreading this information to a wider audience.

If you could get people behind a common goal, something that would give this site and its members a purpose- then you would not have such a fractured group.

If you started to develop a system whereby people started to think about ways in which we could wake people up by way of subterfuge, then I am sure you will find that it will become a more cohesive group.

Resistence relies on action. Action creates unity. I hope you read this in the spirit in which it is intended.

Permalink Reply by mystery on August 11, 2013 at 9:07am

James, I don't know when you got this or who it came from but it set off alarms with me when I read it. It was a very intelligently constructed letter..... But seemed to be trying to get you to do things we have been trying to avoid.

Quote from your email,

If you started to develop a system whereby people started to think about ways in which we could wake people up by way of subterfuge, then I am sure you will find that it will become a more cohesive group.

sub·ter·fuge  

/ˈsəbtərˌfyo͞oj/

Noun Deceit used in order to achieve one's goal. A statement or action resorted to in order to deceive.

Synonyms evasion - ruse - trick - dodge - artifice Trickery is just that, trickery. Deception of any kind is (what we have tried to avoid), especially in this kind of site is a death kneel. I understand this email was talking about a collective, consolidation of the site. In my mind it is already consolidated. People are not always able to absorb all the information on here, for example I have trouble viewing war articles or military movement articles. This does not mean I do not know about war or the atrocities waged against peoples of the world.  It does not mean I do not support our groups following this worthy news reporting, it just means I would rather leave that to the members that can do it without having the fear well up inside them like I do when I read these articles. Same goes for our environmental groups and so on.... it does not mean this site is not a living social site. All members have a purpose for coming here this means we are a healthy group of like minded individuals  with different interests, but the goal is to share our information about the news hidden by the MSM news. To be able to do this we need different points of view from many walks of life, because my view on war may be different than your point on war, we would report differently on the same issue. I think the groups are a good idea, more on this later I have to go to work.

Permalink Reply by Less Prone on August 11, 2013 at 9:32am

This is a great site having a lot of information that is not present in the main stream media. The groups are a tools to organize the information and get people together. Concerning the critique in the email, the question is how. I don't advocate anything illegal because that would be a reason for the government to close the site. However, we could try to get more people to visit the site by posting links to discussion forums, which I have done. I don't like the idea of getting a leader, since that person would be the first to be detained. Leaderless resistance is better and the people here share good values as a basis for their resistance. The more people come to understand what is going on, the more meaningful the resistance will be.

Permalink Reply by truth on December 7, 2009 at 2:31pm

I should have added this is/was a second email by a second person, in response to this posting.

James aka adap2k said:

An email I received.

James