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Comment by Anthony Kimbrough on March 25, 2012 at 11:54am

Suzie, I'm not sure if it is just a difference in terms or ranks as to if demons and devils are the same thing, but I think they are. As to Satan as a name and Lucifer being the same, not sure anymore. As to Lucifer and satan as a title, or devil demon, all fit that bill quite well as all those are adversaries of God and the Bible states of even each other.

Meglamanic, 1 Enoch is not believed to be the "Inspired word of God" but good for historical accounting. Most Theologians study it as well as many that religions. I think 2 Enoch, but it may be 3 Enoch were Gnostic books, but I've only read 1 Enoch. The same people that took out 1 Enoch are the same ones that debated taking out Revelations. As to if Enoch was good we look into the standard Bible for that. He is mentioned 12 times in the NKJV Bible.

http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=enoch&version1=50&a...

11 times in the KJV

http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=enoch&searchtype=al...

Most important one though to answer your question is this one:

Hebrews 11:5
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

 

Comment by Maria De Wind on March 25, 2012 at 11:13am

The Book of Enoch

(1) The Book of the Secrets of Enoch  (2)

Enjoy

Comment by Meglamaniac on March 25, 2012 at 11:13am

The Book of Enoch is suspect, the only thing I could say is let the Holy Spirit confirm the truth to you. Pray and God will let you know if Enoch was a true prophet.... Seems strange that all it talks about are fallen angels, teaching man things....

Comment by suzie on March 25, 2012 at 10:55am

I have heard of the book of Enoch but i am not really familiar with it. I have heard the ocean called the abyss.. Regardless of interpretations don't you think it might be a little nit picky about devils& demons when they both look like agents of hell?

Do you think that Lucifer and satan are two different being? If so why? and how will it effect us? 

Comment by Anthony Kimbrough on March 24, 2012 at 9:38pm

You are using the "New" KJV, which is perfectly find. The KJV states in James 2:  ¹⁹"Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

I've read some that say there is a difference between devils and demons. Demons and Jinn (I think) come from disembodied spirits of the offspring of the Watchers. 1st Fall was Lucifer, 2nd was the Watchers of Genesis 6 which according to the Bible are bound in the Abyss until the End of the Age. Lucifer and his band weren't since they did not mate with human women. Some of this is from the traditional Bible and some from 1 Enoch and other books that were taken out.  Funny on how the Abyss can also mean the ocean bottom.

 Revelation 12:⁹And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan (adversary), which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

 

  I think the guy that made that video plays with words and more based his understanding on what is main stream.

Comment by suzie on March 24, 2012 at 1:42am

Adam (אדם) means human being or person.                                                            Meaning & History

This is the Hebrew word for "man". It could be ultimately derived from Hebrew אדם ('adam) meaning "to be red", referring to the ruddy colour of human skin, or from Akkadian adamu meaning "to make". According to Genesis in the Old Testament Adam was created from the earth by God (there is a word play on Hebrew אֲדָמָה('adamah) "earth"). He and Eve were supposedly the first humans, living happily in the Garden of Eden until Adam ate a forbidden fruit given to him by Eve.

As an English Christian name, Adam has been common since the Middle Ages, and it received a boost after the Protestant Reformation. A famous bearer was Scottish economist Adam Smith (1723-1790).

Comment by suzie on March 24, 2012 at 1:25am

 "What does the Bible say about demons?"
 Revelation 12:9 is the clearest scripture on the identity of demons, “The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.” Satan’s fall from heaven is symbolically described in Isaiah 14:12-15 and Ezekiel 28:12-15. Revelation 12:4 seems to indicate that Satan took one-third of the angels with him when he sinned.Jude 6 mentions angels who sinned. The Bible indicates that the demons are fallen angels who, along with Satan, rebelled against God.

Comment by suzie on March 24, 2012 at 1:16am

unclean spirits, demon& devils are interchangeable ..  the unclean spirit had a name "My name is Legion, for we are many."  it all means the same thing when you are teaching a point. what is the difference in terminology if someone is possessed by hell if you call it demon , devil or unclean spirit? Is it not all evil and from hell? can you not cast it out by the blood of Christ no matter what you call it? The being from hell knows what they are. They know the bible better than you!  "You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that--and shudder." 
-- James 2:18-20 [NRSV] 

king James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble

they say the same thing

Comment by Anthony Kimbrough on March 24, 2012 at 1:12am

Mark 5

 ¹And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.

 ²And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,

 ³Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:

 ⁴Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.

 ⁵And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.

 ⁶But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,

 ⁷And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.

 ⁸For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.

 ⁹And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.

 ¹⁰And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.

 ¹¹Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.

 ¹²And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.

 ¹³And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.

 ¹⁴And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done.

 ¹⁵And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.

 ¹⁶And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine.

 ¹⁷And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts.

 ¹⁸And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him.

 ¹⁹Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee.

 ²⁰And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel. Web

Either way, devil or demon, jinn, same thing and all can be termed satan or adversary, There is a hierarchy though as weaker ones look to serve thier masters. The KJV is a bit harder to understand but closer to the original  text,

Comment by suzie on March 24, 2012 at 12:58am

Then went the devils out of the man, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the lake, and were choked.

- 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version

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