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Comment by Nynke Etk Fokma on February 16, 2011 at 11:25am

Nikki, Italy was next. I gathered some useful links in an article (supported by a local) http://nynke.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/squares-are-hip

Comment by Nikki on February 13, 2011 at 8:13pm

Yemen might just be next, Nynke - stay tuned.

Comment by Nynke Etk Fokma on February 12, 2011 at 2:25pm

I propose a bet. Who'll play broker for us? The prize is the title of "best anticipator", where "best" is "closest".

I say Yemen is next. Yemen has the second largest military force on the Arabian Peninsula after Saudi Arabia. But the latter has projected to have 40% more Oil Reserves than it really has, to get more (new) investors. That worked so now those interests are too well protected.

And about 40% of the Yemen's GDP accounts for defense spending ...

Yemen is my entry for a next bet.

What say you?

Comment by Nikki on February 12, 2011 at 1:32pm

Nynke, you make excellent points, I enjoyed reading your entire article.  They are saying that 'the winds of change are sweeping the Middle East' and Tunisia and Egypt were fortunate in that the military refused to suppress the people.  But what will happen in Yemen, Libya, etc?  To get this far you have to have a military that's not been brain-washed against the people.

Comment by Nynke Etk Fokma on February 12, 2011 at 4:50am

Thanks Nikki. I agree with the warning, for similar reasons. I wrote this in 2008: http://stonecircles.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/antlers/

• Ignoring the potential for a coup d’état conducted either to pre-empt chaos or to seize control of a group when a leader collapses is a major mistake. A group which has ignored this potential and failed to prepare to resist a coup d’état if and when it comes, may find that it faces a new less humane leadership, potentially worse then in the old status quo, and one more difficult to resist.
• When less humane leadership collapses, especially laissez-faire supporters may fail to institutionalize more fully humane  thinking and may flounder in integration and practice. The result may be to discredit “more fully humane”, to create a longing for the “good old days” under the “strong pyramidical leadership”, and to open the door for acceptance of a new “strong leader“.

And this isn't about "I told you so". If I can see these, then so can a lot of other people. Obviously. Most of the people that can see these "usual story plots" benefit from the current pyramids. In and off itself not a problem, but if combined with unbalanced self-interest ... Such co-dependency patterns are very, very hard to break.

 

Having said that, I prefer not to interpret "non-information" (not gathered by senses), and do not want to fall into the trap of self-fulfilling prophesies. What's actually happening? Anybody care to leak info? :)

Comment by Nikki on February 11, 2011 at 7:27pm

Comment by Burbia on February 11, 2011 at 4:35pm

Wow...

Comment by Nynke Etk Fokma on February 11, 2011 at 4:21pm

And what about the fear that, after the fall of Mubarak, the new government will be hostile towards Israel? If the new government is genuinely the expression of a people that proudly enjoys its freedom, then there is nothing to fear: antisemitism can only grow in conditions of despair and oppression.

From: http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2011/feb/10/egypt-miracle-tahrir-s...

Comment by truth on February 10, 2011 at 8:09pm

In Egypt's Tahrir Square, celebration grinds to a halt with Mubarak's speech

"By the time Mubarak, the old general, reached the point in which he insisted he had to soldier on to save the nation from chaos, the crowd erupted in angry shouts of “Illegitimate! Illegitimate!” that drowned out the rest of his speech."
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Note:  Read more here

Comment by truth on February 10, 2011 at 12:21pm

MUBARAK WILL STEP DOWN TONIGHT!

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