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Comment by Cryptocurrency on September 30, 2012 at 11:52pm

A resellers site yes. But the fact remains that the information has been disclosed and clinically analyzed. Now how many products can you name give the exact mg/l for any of their ingredients? I think we're moving into beating a dead horse territory with this. Youngevity is a viable, healthy product and is far better than anything else you can find on the store shelf.

Imagine if they printed every single mg/l on the label in addition to all of the other info they print. Do you have any idea how much that would cost? They're not Coca-Cola or Gatorade. They're trying to make it as affordable as they can—as hard as that is with the inflation of the dollar and multinational corporate monopolies.

Comment by truth on September 30, 2012 at 11:22pm

The disclosure I see isn't found on the product, and in fact, that is a resellers site, whom seems to have more understanding of the concerns.

Comment by Cryptocurrency on September 30, 2012 at 11:01pm

The dosage of the metals and minerals has been disclosed:

http://www.healthy-ways.com/contents.html

Comment by truth on September 30, 2012 at 10:45pm

from libby bell...simple and on target
Without question, the dosage of the metals, minerals should be disclosed rather than lumped into one 300mg figure.

Comment by Ben Parkinson on September 30, 2012 at 10:38pm

http://www.dailypaul.com/127228/jack-blood-exposes-alex-jones-and-h...

Comment by Ben Parkinson on September 30, 2012 at 10:37pm

His name was John Conner years ago on myspace before he changed his name to Mark Dice. I can't stand AJ getting cozy with G4T and Jason Bermas plus his MLM/vitamins/weight loss crap plus his fear porn plus his hatred of no planers. Same damn thing happened to Jack Blood.

Comment by Cryptocurrency on September 30, 2012 at 10:18pm

Here's your explanation right here:

http://www.kjmaclean.com/Youngevity/frequently_asked_questions.html

Q: Isn't selenium harmful? Youngeveity mineral products contain selenium! However, in the July 1st, 1998 issue of the San Diego Union Tribune, there was a full page story about the massive die-offs of various flora and fauna at the Salton sea in the Imperial Valley, CA. This ecological collapse, according to various "experts," is due, in part, to the element selenium. My question is how can Dr Wallach push selenium if there is the slightest chance that these "experts" are correct? Or are there different kinds of selenium??

A: Both Dr. Wallach and the "experts" are correct. Selenium is an essential trace element. Selenium deficiency in human is frequent. Selenium deficiency may produce diseases from heart conditions to immune system inefficiency, spots on the skin, not to forget birth defects. Selenium supplementation reduces infection rate and protects against more than one type of cancer. Selenium is also a dangerous poison. How can this be? It is very simple. It is a matter of dosage. An adult needs an intake of around 100-200 microgram of selenium per day to stay healthy. Poisoning by selenium starts at sustained daily doses more than 10 to 20 times greater. Selenium is not the only substance that is altogether essential and a poison, depending the doses. Only, in the case of selenium the margin between the needed useful dose and a dangerous daily intake is narrower than for others. ^[1]

Q: The laboratory assay shows that Dr. Wallach's Majestic Minerals has over 1460 mg per liter of aluminum per quart! Aluminum is carcinogenic and also causes Alzheimer's Disease, doesn't it?

A: Don't worry. Aluminum is present in all and every food and living organisms -- human included -- are used to this exposure. Furthermore, one serving of Ultimate contains 44 mg of aluminum metal, standing for 132 mg of aluminum hydroxide. This amount of aluminum hydroxide is only 46.2% of the aluminum hydroxide content in one tablet of the antacid Maalox Forte (350 mg of aluminum hydroxide per tablet). Rhone Poulenc Rorer Pharmaceuticals, distributor of Maalox Forte, recommends the use of 1 to 3 tablets of it 4 times per day to combat stomach acidity. (Physicians' Desk Reference, 1998, p. 1850). This is 3 x 4 x 350 = four thousand two hundred (4,200) mg of aluminum hydroxide per day and this dosage is FDA approved. From the above, one could say that one serving of ultimate contains 3.14% of the aluminum hydroxide daily oral dose accepted by the FDA. More information on aluminum in food is the subject of
 from the Longevity Institute.

Q: Dr. Wallach's  minerals contain arsenic. Arsenic is a deadly poison, isn't it?

A: Indeed arsenic can become a deadly poison. Arsenic is also essential for health. It all depends on the dose. This is valid for numerous other minerals. The mineral content of a product can be evaluated (among others) in terms of the Recommended-daily-allowance (RDA) from the Federal Drug Administration (FDA), in terms of the No-0bserved-adverse-effect-level (NOAEL), or the Lowest-Observed-Adverse-Effect-Level (LOAEL) from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Specifically for Arsenic (As), one serving of Majestic Earth (one fl.oz.) contains 0.15 microgram of As, equivalent to 0.23% of NOAEL.

Question:  Public health officials are more concerned about tiny doses delivered over long period of time--arsenic is linked to cancer. Arsenic is an element found all over the planet, and it can be highly poisonous. Even in relatively small doses, over time it can create health problems, including bladder and lung cancer. Until recently, the United States considered 50 parts per billion to be a safe level for arsenic. But the nation is now adopting the international standard of 10 parts per billion. One part per billion is equal to a drop of water in a 10,000 gallon swimming pool. If you take the minerals, aren't you taking small amounts of arsenic from a stranger, possibly killing ourselves, and paying good money to do it?

A: We understand your concern.

Arsenic (As) is an essential element, essential for general growth and for the maintenance of fibrous and bone tissue. Arsenic shares with selenium the unfortunate particularity to be an essential element, beneficial at low concentration and toxic above a certain level. Our food provides an intake of about 20-70 micrograms of arsenic per day. Arsenic toxicity arises for a continual intake of more than 200 micrograms per day (Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry.1989).

Don't worry while taking one or two servings of the Majestic Earth Plant Derived Minerals per day. Here is why: One Fl. oz. of the Plant Derived Minerals contain 0.15 microgram of Arsenic. A concentration of 0.15 microgram per Fl.oz. equals 5 micrograms per liter or 5 parts per billion (ppb). This is less (50 %) than the maximum accepted concentration for Drinking-Water-Requirement (DWR) from the World Health Organization (WHO). Furthermore, the requirements for arsenic in drinking water have not been set for a consumption of one or two Fl.Oz (30 or 60 milliliter) of it per day. The requirements for arsenic in drinking water have been set for a consumption of 2 liters of it per day, 15 times more than two Fl.Oz.

 Q: OK, but the liquid minerals contain lots of harmful ingredients like lead, cadmium, flourine, and thallium! How can we be sure that we're not poisoning ourselves?

A: There are elements in the Majestic Earth minerals one would not dream of ingesting in a granular or metallic form. But remember that Dr. Wallach's plant derived minerals come in organically bound form. In  organically bound form and in trace amounts, many of these same elements play an important role in the body's bio-chemistry. Arsenic, for example, helps facilitate neonatal growth and plays a part in metabolizing selenium, an element proven to be crucial to the health of the heart muscle. In a metallic form, on the other hand, arsenic can be deadly. In fact, it is 65 times more toxic than organically bound arsenic. Many people worry about ingesting too much aluminum. It is associated with Alzheimer's Disease, after all. Yet what many do not realize is that fully 12% of the earth's crust consists of aluminum bound typically to either oxygen or silica. One can not buy a fruit, grain, nut, vegetable, etc. at any market that does not contain trace amounts of organically bound aluminum. Another interesting fact is that due to the electro magnetic charge of organically bound minerals they cannot be stored in the body for longer than about 6 to 8 hours, thus they never create any sort of toxic overload. Minerals that come from inorganic sources such as rocks, clays and sea water can accumulate in the soft tissue of the body. Some plant- sourced minerals have been found to actually remove their heavy metal counterparts. For example, going back to aluminum, aluminum is very effective in not only cleansing the body at the cellular level but also in assisting it to remove any metallic aluminum that might be present.

Comment by truth on September 30, 2012 at 9:44pm

Toxicity

Main article: Thallium poisoning

Thallium and its compounds are extremely toxic, and should be handled with great care. There are numerous recorded cases of fatal thallium poisoning.^[48] Contact with skin is dangerous, and adequate ventilation should be provided when melting this metal. Thallium(I) compounds have a high aqueous solubility and are readily absorbed through the skin. Exposure to them should not exceed 0.1 mg per m² of skin in an 8-hour time-weighted average (40-hour work week). Thallium is a suspected human carcinogen.^[49] For a long time thallium compounds were easily available as rat poison. This fact and that it is water soluble and nearly tasteless led to frequent intoxications caused by accident or criminal intent.^[19]

Comment by truth on September 30, 2012 at 9:29pm

re: tangy - I report you decide. The question still remains why they stopped labeling their products?? Who wouldn't see that as suspicious?

As for as AJ, the frequency of misleading titles and shallow arguments referred to as facts has eclipsed my ability to remain silent on most occasions.

Comment by Cryptocurrency on September 30, 2012 at 8:57pm

They're plant derived minerals. In small amounts arsenic is good for you. It stimulates the production of red blood cells. Forget which type of arsenic though. I'm guessing the same is true with the other trace minerals.

I say, instead of speculating, why don't you just call youngevity and ask them to explain why these minerals are in their product and to provide some information. What's more likely the case? Youngevity and Alex Jones are poisoning you? Or is it more likely that none of us are knowledgeable enough about trace minerals to understand why their product contains .00045 mg/l of mercury e.g.

mg/l stand for milligrams per liter fyi.

Funny how so many swear Alex Jones fear mongers and sensationalizes yet you turn around and do the same thing yourself. Psychologists have a term for that. It's called projecting.

I'm not condescending, just giving perspective. Maybe, the reality is, none of us are perfect and we are all conspiracy theorists at heart...

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