The following is a continuation, so to speak - coming again from Alan Grayson.

Please know, that I am not campaigning for him - I simply get his Emails - but quite often, it is hoped that I would donate or contribute to his cause - I just communicate with him, at this point in time. 

Here is what I recently received from him, and my response to that - just to add this: I really do not agree with what appears to be, a (his) justification or agreement over the Libyan Invasion either - although he does have a habit of being effectively sarcastic too.

Dear Christopher-Peter:

Yesterday, I wrote about President Obama's announcement last week that he had signed an agreement to extend the U.S. military occupation of Afghanistan for twelve more years. I said that at this point, the war in Afghanistan very much resembles what, in October 2002, State Senator Barack Obama called a "dumb war."

Which begs this question: what is not a "dumb war"? Well, we just saw a good example of a not-dumb war, at least if you happen to be French.

Last year, Nicolas Sarkozy, the President of France, decided that he was going to take out Muammar Gaddafi in Libya. I'm not going to argue whether that was right or wrong; that's not the point. The point is that France won that war, at very minimal cost.

So the French Air Force bombed Libyan targets. But France also enlisted NATO support. In fact, France's NATO allies bore 80% of the cost of the war in Libya.

The actual cost to France was 320 million euros, which equals around $415 million. And not one French soldier died. (I'm aware of the fact that around 25,000 Libyans died, but again, that's not the point.)

Assuming that you buy into the goal, the French war in Libya was a smart war. Very smart.

Now let's compare that to the war in Iraq. Same stated goal: remove the dictator. And same result: dictator removed.

But the war in Iraq cost $4 trillion ($4,000,000,000,000), according to Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz. More than World War II. 4,487 American soldiers died (and maybe 500,000 Iraqis).

The war in Iraq dragged on for eight years and nine months. During that period, U.S. taxpayers spent $415 million on the war in Iraq every eight hours. And an average of 10 American soldiers were killed every week.

Now that is a dumb war. Really dumb.

And the war in Afghanistan is no different from the war in Iraq. We are spending almost $1 million a year for each American soldier in Afghanistan.

Another dumb war.

So I agree with State Senator Barack Obama. "That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war."

Courage,

Alan Grayson

"All we are saying is give peace a chance." – John Lennon (1969).

My response to Alan Grayson:

Not only does something stink in Denmark, but perhaps there's a stench wafting in from France too - the overwhelming odor is also present in CANADA, as well:

This just in:

True cost of Libya mission was seven times gov't. estimate: documents
By Lee Berthiaume, Postmedia News May 10, 2012

OTTAWA - Amid allegations the Conservative government intentionally lowballed the price of the F-35 stealth fighter project, newly released National Defence documents indicate the full cost of last year's Libya mission was nearly $350 million - seven times what Defence Minister Peter MacKay told Canadians it cost. 

But buried in a report tabled in the House of Commons this week are Defence Department figures pegging the full cost of the mission at more than $347.5 million.
Source: http://www.canada.com/True%2Bcost%2BLibya%2Bmission%2Bseven%2Btimes...

I therefore have to be cynical, and surmise that the figures which were attributed to the cost of the Libyan invasion, and incurred by the tax payers of France, are perhaps, also on the low, or unrealistic side.

As for the numbers of human lives lost in Iraq - that of Iraqis, that is - those estimates have been put at one million plus, and from different sources too. 
And perhaps you're making this pont by phrasing it the way you did "(and maybe 500,000 Iraqis)".

This 60 Minutes interview, will alone, attribute to the 500,000 Iraqis killed - but just children.

Madeleine Albright Defends Mass-Murder of iraqi Children (500,000 Children dead)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4PgpbQfxgo

Thanks for sending me a copy of this information (below) and, the previous one as well - I believe that it is a very good account, of the blatant foolishness, that governments do, with the fruits of our personal labor (private property), viz TAXES - and its pretty much a Global, or New World Order of the day.

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